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"We're in an AI race with China" okay why aren't we in a solar race or high-speed rail race or healthcare race or quality of life race or some shit.

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  • elizafox@social.treehouse.systemsE elizafox@social.treehouse.systems

    "We're in an AI race with China" okay why aren't we in a solar race or high-speed rail race or healthcare race or quality of life race or some shit.

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    #42

    @Elizafox Because China already won those races. In our System it would require too much investment in basic infrastructure which wouldn't translate to stock prices. Neither parliament nor We The People would allow wasting so much money without immediate cash profit.

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    • pockets@lgbtqia.spaceP pockets@lgbtqia.space

      @Elizafox
      What was that thing in "Oppenheimer" where he took the math to Einstein because there was a concern that it would ignite our atmosphere?

      That's where we're at.
      How many groups have said that AI is likely to kill us all, but they're *still* racing towards it?

      I guess people are more concerned about *which* AI kills us than *whether* AI kills us. I mean, we'll be dead either way, so why does it matter?

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      #43

      @pockets @Elizafox Because LLMs are merely probability machines. They are, in itself, not dangerous. But take stupid and/or malicious humans and anything can become a weapon. If you give your toddler access to your bank account, the result will be disastrous but you wouldn't put your toddler in a high security prison.

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      • shaedrich@mastodon.onlineS shaedrich@mastodon.online

        @pockets @Elizafox Because LLMs are merely probability machines. They are, in itself, not dangerous. But take stupid and/or malicious humans and anything can become a weapon. If you give your toddler access to your bank account, the result will be disastrous but you wouldn't put your toddler in a high security prison.

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        #44

        @pockets @Elizafox LLMs don't have a conscience and therefore no intent to kill us. But people using it for purposes they are not made for and at alarming rates, will kill us.

        2/2

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        • elizafox@social.treehouse.systemsE elizafox@social.treehouse.systems

          "We're in an AI race with China" okay why aren't we in a solar race or high-speed rail race or healthcare race or quality of life race or some shit.

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          #45

          @Elizafox Is China advancing in healthcare and quality of life?

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          • gytisrepecka@social.gyt.isG gytisrepecka@social.gyt.is

            @Elizafox Is China advancing in healthcare and quality of life?

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            #46

            @gytisrepecka @Elizafox idk, but we're definitely declining on both in Europe and the US.

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            • elexia@catcatnya.comE elexia@catcatnya.com

              @gytisrepecka @Elizafox idk, but we're definitely declining on both in Europe and the US.

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              #47

              @gytisrepecka @Elizafox definitely two races China can win by simply not making things worse on purpose.

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              • elexia@catcatnya.comE elexia@catcatnya.com

                @gytisrepecka @Elizafox idk, but we're definitely declining on both in Europe and the US.

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                #48

                @elexia Can't comment on whole Europe, but at least in Lithuania healthcare is at the best state it ever was

                @Elizafox

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                • gytisrepecka@social.gyt.isG gytisrepecka@social.gyt.is

                  @elexia Can't comment on whole Europe, but at least in Lithuania healthcare is at the best state it ever was

                  @Elizafox

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                  #49

                  @gytisrepecka @Elizafox interesting, cause every country I know enough about to comment on is getting worse. usually in large part due to deliberate sabotage from major political forces (for example in the UK and Germany), but also in part cause they just want to pretend the pandemic is over and so they let staff and patients get sick over and over and over because doing even as little infection prevention as pre-pandemic is politically fraught now.

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                  • patchyouup@mastodon.socialP patchyouup@mastodon.social

                    @ariaflame @jaaphuib @Elizafox Exactly. They've figured out the way to make insane amounts of money *without* being profitable. Why deal with the hassle of profit when you can just keep saying "this model is better than the last one" and people just keep throwing money at you?

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                    #50

                    @patchyouup @ariaflame @Elizafox

                    When you sit in the top of the pyramid, of whatever you invest in and get hyped, it doesn't have to be profitable.

                    Only thing to monitor is the right time to withdraw from the hype.
                    Everyone else will pay for the losses.

                    You can count your profits and start the next bubble.

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                    • elizafox@social.treehouse.systemsE elizafox@social.treehouse.systems

                      "We're in an AI race with China" okay why aren't we in a solar race or high-speed rail race or healthcare race or quality of life race or some shit.

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                      #51

                      @Elizafox

                      Why do you hate freedom?

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                      • elizafox@social.treehouse.systemsE elizafox@social.treehouse.systems

                        "We're in an AI race with China" okay why aren't we in a solar race or high-speed rail race or healthcare race or quality of life race or some shit.

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                        #52

                        @Elizafox that’s such a valid question !

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                        • jaaphuib@mastodon.nlJ jaaphuib@mastodon.nl

                          @patchyouup @ariaflame @Elizafox

                          When you sit in the top of the pyramid, of whatever you invest in and get hyped, it doesn't have to be profitable.

                          Only thing to monitor is the right time to withdraw from the hype.
                          Everyone else will pay for the losses.

                          You can count your profits and start the next bubble.

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                          #53

                          @jaaphuib @patchyouup @Elizafox So yeah, a pyramid scheme. A scam. Which is why I'm doing my best to avoid it entirely. Even if me using it would cause them to lose money faster.

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                          • patchyouup@mastodon.socialP patchyouup@mastodon.social

                            @ariaflame @jaaphuib @Elizafox Exactly. They've figured out the way to make insane amounts of money *without* being profitable. Why deal with the hassle of profit when you can just keep saying "this model is better than the last one" and people just keep throwing money at you?

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                            #54

                            @patchyouup @jaaphuib @Elizafox That only lasts so long.

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                            • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

                              @Elizafox

                              Why do you hate freedom?

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                              @gbargoud >:P

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                              • elexia@catcatnya.comE elexia@catcatnya.com

                                @gytisrepecka @Elizafox definitely two races China can win by simply not making things worse on purpose.

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                                #56

                                @elexia @gytisrepecka this basically

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                                • elizafox@social.treehouse.systemsE elizafox@social.treehouse.systems

                                  @elexia @gytisrepecka this basically

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                                  @elexia @gytisrepecka and yes China is trying to actively improve those things (China is obsessed with social order and harmony and part of that is keeping the people happy-ish or at least make them feel like things are getting better)

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                                  • elexia@catcatnya.comE elexia@catcatnya.com

                                    @gytisrepecka @Elizafox interesting, cause every country I know enough about to comment on is getting worse. usually in large part due to deliberate sabotage from major political forces (for example in the UK and Germany), but also in part cause they just want to pretend the pandemic is over and so they let staff and patients get sick over and over and over because doing even as little infection prevention as pre-pandemic is politically fraught now.

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                                    @elexia @gytisrepecka cost of living is absolutely out of control, and although money can’t buy happiness, poverty can’t buy anything

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                                    • neongod@mstdn.socialN neongod@mstdn.social

                                      @aburgerabz @Elizafox Good question. With saying “we” it’s implied that I should identify with those who do these things. I don’t. I’m not in a race with China in anything. I don’t want the elected leaders to be either, but unfortunately they don’t represent me too well.

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                                      #59

                                      @neongod @aburgerabz the government and the corporations

                                      Same “we” behind our bullshit race to the moon (is there healthcare on the moon??? I sure hope so)

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                                      • bunny_jane@plush.cityB bunny_jane@plush.city

                                        @Elizafox could we at least have a car race? Races are often done with cars! I'd love to be able to buy a $15k electric hatchback in bubblegum pink with 500 miles of range that fast charges in 5 minutes, has solar panels on the roof, and was made with safety regulations that ensure I won't be trapped inside if it crashes. But no because capitalism hates competition.

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                                        @bunny_jane RIGHT???

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