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  3. Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

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  • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

    Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

    Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

    marud@social.marud.frM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #16

    @vkc what the actual f is wrong with humanity

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    • cyberwitch@goingdark.socialC cyberwitch@goingdark.social

      @vkc with all the bragging about how fedi is built so it can defederate and cut out unmoderated instances, maybe they should try it sometime.

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      #17

      and also, I've noticed POC on Mastodon with similar complaints that are, similarly, minimized or ignored. The Fediverse culture is showing some large-scale bad patterns here. "Progressive" communities and platforms need to quit ignoring and tone-policing people when issues arise.

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      • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

        Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

        Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

        haltroy@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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        #18

        @vkc I hope you are doing OK, I had no idea that other people on Fedi to be this bad. I thought since it's userbase is more smarter I wouldn't guessed this would happen.

        I'd be cool if Mastodon had a "list" feature like bsky does, where you can add people to there and auto-block/mute them. Kinda useful thing, especially on these.

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        • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

          Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

          Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

          jirikiha@raphus.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #19

          @vkc men, do better.

          Be a man in the internet. Talk about what you like. Cars, weather, trains, sports. See how the replies are on topic.

          Be a woman on the internet. Talk about what you like.
          Cars, weather, trains, sports. See the replies talking about your boobs. See the DMs filled with, "hey baby", and unsolicited dick pics.

          If you are a man, you won't see most - or any! - of what women experience daily online. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Your just in a safe little bubble of privilege. Own it, and do better.

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          • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

            Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

            Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

            midtsveen@social.linux.pizzaM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #20

            @vkc Apparently women are “too woke.” Well, I love women, so I guess that makes me woke too. Extra woke, even. Maximum wokeness, omg. ❤️ 🏳️‍🌈 Haters gonna hate regardless, be you! ❤️

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            • alex02@elonsucks.orgA alex02@elonsucks.org

              @vkc no it is not and quite frankly your response is quite obnoxious. If we can't talk about problems collectively on this shithole platform and only talk about one thing at a time than it becomes loose islands among the rest of the sewage, but fine whatever. Thank you for proving my point about how hostile this place is becoming with all you morons whining, but yet do this type of shit. Anyways, enjoy the block. I generally don't care.

              janhelms@rheinneckar.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #21

              @alex02 @vkc Hey Alex, want to block me, too? Because I totally disagree with you, and blockings seems your way to cope with other opinions.

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              • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

                Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

                disorderlyf@todon.euD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #22

                @vkc I wonder if it's a good sign for my instance that I'm seeing a lot of replies to what I presume is people being sexist pricks but not their actual posts.

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                • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                  Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

                  Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

                  randyhughesking@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #23

                  @vkc My crew is working on it. Culturally, we are training to call out and effectively moderate (banning, blocking, defederating) and figuring out 'financing' of who does it and hours required of manual moderation w/volunteers.

                  Structurally, there's common sexism/problem phrases that are just stupidly common, a pre-filter for all posts containing known BS, expanding on any emergent phrasing case-by-case

                  PSA channels with zero commenting for local civics also on the drawing board.

                  Thoughts?

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                  • disorderlyf@todon.euD disorderlyf@todon.eu

                    @vkc I wonder if it's a good sign for my instance that I'm seeing a lot of replies to what I presume is people being sexist pricks but not their actual posts.

                    vkc@linuxmom.netV This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #24

                    @disorderlyf probably. I know folks are reporting posts and that's almost certainly creating some blocks right now.

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                    • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                      Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

                      Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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                      #25

                      @vkc Moderation is a difficult problem to solve. Whenever I see content that is unwelcome (sexual harassment is at the top of that list), I report it, but not once have I received notice that anything has been done based on those reports.

                      On top of that, reporting bad actors is reactive and does nothing to undo the harassment that occurred.

                      Seems like the only approach that works is to loudly and publicly name & shame harassers. But that opens up another can of worms.

                      Ugh.

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                      • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                        @disorderlyf probably. I know folks are reporting posts and that's almost certainly creating some blocks right now.

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                        #26

                        @vkc Well, for what it's worth, I'll report any I see if someone else doesn't beat me to it.

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                        • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                          Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

                          Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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                          #27

                          @vkc Even though fedi doesn't have algorithms to encourage such behavior, it can still happen and it is often beyond the powers of the managers of the instance to police everyone. It is everyone's responsibility to be vigilant and always protect their communities from trolls. Also that's a useful thing to do in real life too. Don't wait for the officer to answer, do something.

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                          • haltroy@mastodon.socialH haltroy@mastodon.social

                            @vkc I hope you are doing OK, I had no idea that other people on Fedi to be this bad. I thought since it's userbase is more smarter I wouldn't guessed this would happen.

                            I'd be cool if Mastodon had a "list" feature like bsky does, where you can add people to there and auto-block/mute them. Kinda useful thing, especially on these.

                            orb2069@mastodon.onlineO This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #28

                            @haltroy

                            There's a certain subset of people who are pushing an _ideology_, and the sexism is an expression of that ideology.

                            They're going to keep coming back from bans, and making sock puppets because appearing to be more numerous than they are is in service of that ideology.

                            Promoting the idea that they can't be stopped and the only way they can be delt with is by giving them what they want is also in service of that ideology.

                            @vkc

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                            • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                              Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

                              Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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                              #29

                              @vkc Fook! In Finland we take those people behind the Sauna!

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                              • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                                Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

                                Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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                                #30

                                @vkc

                                😟🥺

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                                • kernelkebap@mastodon.socialK kernelkebap@mastodon.social

                                  @vkc I didn’t see that. What was said?
                                  Edit: how did the sexual harassment look like?

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                                  #31

                                  @Kernelkebap

                                  You should approach this potlatch style: you offer a graphic description of something nasty that happened to you, to the public, unsolicited - be sure to roll around in it, really feel all the horrible feelings it evoked. Make sure to link the other party.

                                  **Then** you can ask someone else to do the same, realizing that they aren't obligated to return your 'gift' in kind.

                                  @vkc

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                                  • orb2069@mastodon.onlineO orb2069@mastodon.online

                                    @haltroy

                                    There's a certain subset of people who are pushing an _ideology_, and the sexism is an expression of that ideology.

                                    They're going to keep coming back from bans, and making sock puppets because appearing to be more numerous than they are is in service of that ideology.

                                    Promoting the idea that they can't be stopped and the only way they can be delt with is by giving them what they want is also in service of that ideology.

                                    @vkc

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                                    #32

                                    @Orb2069 @vkc It's 2026 and we still dealing with those people's "ideologies" from ancient times of humanity. It haunted everyone back in those days, it haunted everyone through ages and it still keeps haunting people till this moment.

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                                    • alex02@elonsucks.orgA alex02@elonsucks.org

                                      @vkc no it is not and quite frankly your response is quite obnoxious. If we can't talk about problems collectively on this shithole platform and only talk about one thing at a time than it becomes loose islands among the rest of the sewage, but fine whatever. Thank you for proving my point about how hostile this place is becoming with all you morons whining, but yet do this type of shit. Anyways, enjoy the block. I generally don't care.

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                                      #33

                                      @alex02 @vkc boop boop boop deleted

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                                      • alex02@elonsucks.orgA alex02@elonsucks.org

                                        @vkc the hostility toward gen z in general has ramped up, but yet these whiney bitches want gen z to clean up their mess while straight up abusing gen z claiming this is what all generations do which is just manipulation.

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                                        #34

                                        @alex02@elonsucks.org @vkc Block or block and report.

                                        Not really difficult to decide in this case.

                                        Edit : Done @alex02@elonsucks.org blocked and reported

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                                        • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                                          Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

                                          Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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                                          #35

                                          @vkc women will just stay on corporate social media even more because at least the user base there isn't so heavily skewed white male. I'd only been posting regularly for about a week here and got tone policed by some dude who said he was muting me for 30 days because I wasn't cheery enough. I extended his 30 days with a block. I've been in tech for over 25 years and I don't play.

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