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  3. ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

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  • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

    With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

    https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

    #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

    parismarx@mastodon.onlineP kcpoole@mastodon.auK mikemorrow1956@mastodon.socialM thegaffer@hobbitwhispers.socialT ratsammich@mastodon.socialR 12 Replies Last reply
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    • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

      ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

      With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

      https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

      #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

      parismarx@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      Last year I put together a guide to help people get off US tech — and that includes Google. There are a lot of alternatives there they will help you make a plan to pull away from Google services, and all the rest of them too.

      https://disconnect.blog/getting-off-us-tech-a-guide/

      reay@beige.partyR pettet8@mastodon.socialP kjetilg@mastodon.socialK camille@social.praxis.nycC P 5 Replies Last reply
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      • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

        Last year I put together a guide to help people get off US tech — and that includes Google. There are a lot of alternatives there they will help you make a plan to pull away from Google services, and all the rest of them too.

        https://disconnect.blog/getting-off-us-tech-a-guide/

        reay@beige.partyR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @parismarx I read that article when you first posted it, and it’s still solid.

        A question, though, that occurred to me with this Google search change and I was reminded about scanning over this article again: StartPage strips out the trackers from Google search results and offers those for its search results. What’s idea going to happen to it now that Google will effectively not offer any (clickable/reliable/not slop) search results?

        I’m going to throw this onto a stand-alone post as well in case others have any insight.

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        • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

          Last year I put together a guide to help people get off US tech — and that includes Google. There are a lot of alternatives there they will help you make a plan to pull away from Google services, and all the rest of them too.

          https://disconnect.blog/getting-off-us-tech-a-guide/

          pettet8@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @parismarx Duckduckgo is a good search engine... #DOEI

          https://european-alternatives.eu/

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          • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

            ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

            With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

            https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

            #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

            kcpoole@mastodon.auK This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @parismarx isnt the web already dead?
            To me its virtually useless now

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            • kcpoole@mastodon.auK kcpoole@mastodon.au

              @parismarx isnt the web already dead?
              To me its virtually useless now

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              #6

              @kcpoole @parismarx We're on the open social web right now.

              Rumors of the web's death are greatly exaggerated. 😅

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              • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

                mikemorrow1956@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @parismarx I read this with much interest. As I was reading I found out that I had already done it!

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                • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                  ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                  With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                  https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                  #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

                  thegaffer@hobbitwhispers.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @parismarx I started using #Kagi several months ago. After a quick foray with their free trial, I quickly decided that $10/month was well worth all the value they deliver (search, translate, assistant...).

                  Since switching to Kagi, I don't think I've done a single Google search, unless it was by accident.

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                  • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                    Last year I put together a guide to help people get off US tech — and that includes Google. There are a lot of alternatives there they will help you make a plan to pull away from Google services, and all the rest of them too.

                    https://disconnect.blog/getting-off-us-tech-a-guide/

                    kjetilg@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @parismarx The Norwegian weather service Yr (meaning drizzle) is popular also internationally:
                    https://www.yr.no/en
                    They also have mobile apps.
                    Made by MET Norway and the public broadcasting company NRK. Free and no ads.

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                    • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                      ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                      With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                      https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                      #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

                      ratsammich@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @parismarx
                      Fortunately there are other search engines which still work, and some even let you block AI results. Setting google to only search results from before 2019 also helps, but it doesnt work for image searches for some reason.

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                      • thegaffer@hobbitwhispers.socialT thegaffer@hobbitwhispers.social

                        @parismarx I started using #Kagi several months ago. After a quick foray with their free trial, I quickly decided that $10/month was well worth all the value they deliver (search, translate, assistant...).

                        Since switching to Kagi, I don't think I've done a single Google search, unless it was by accident.

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                        #11

                        @thegaffer @parismarx I've also been using Kagi on the $10/month plan and I'm really happy with it for the same reasons.

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                        • kjetilg@mastodon.socialK kjetilg@mastodon.social

                          @parismarx The Norwegian weather service Yr (meaning drizzle) is popular also internationally:
                          https://www.yr.no/en
                          They also have mobile apps.
                          Made by MET Norway and the public broadcasting company NRK. Free and no ads.

                          parismarx@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @kjetilg I'll check it out!

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                          • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                            ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                            With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                            https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                            #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

                            clockwooork@sociale.networkC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @parismarx

                            A timely reminder that most products that Google tried to develop itself (instead of buying from competitors) miserably failed all the time!

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                            • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                              ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                              With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                              https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                              #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

                              alpacamale@social.cologneA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @parismarx Haven't used Google search for about two years now. Search is a commodity and there are many alternatives. Getting rid of Google search is surprisingly easy. No network effects, no real incentive to stick with it. You can just go to another search engine. The cost of switching is basically zero.

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                              • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                                ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                                With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                                https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                                #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

                                mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @parismarx https://killedbygoogle.com/

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                                • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                                  ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                                  With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                                  https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                                  #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

                                  xs4me2@mastodon.socialX This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @parismarx

                                  It’s an utter stupidity…

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                                  • alpacamale@social.cologneA alpacamale@social.cologne

                                    @parismarx Haven't used Google search for about two years now. Search is a commodity and there are many alternatives. Getting rid of Google search is surprisingly easy. No network effects, no real incentive to stick with it. You can just go to another search engine. The cost of switching is basically zero.

                                    txtx@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @alpacamale @parismarx Exactly. Similar experience here.

                                    IMO Google isn't going to kill the web or search, they're sabotaging their own business model. People are going to move on. At some point, google will inevitably reverse course.

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                                    • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                                      ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                                      With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                                      https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                                      #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

                                      bob@beamship.mpaq.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @parismarx

                                      Yep, over a year building a decentrilized search engine, i thought people here would have jump on #TidySearch

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                                      • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                                        ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                                        With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                                        https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                                        #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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                                        #19

                                        @parismarx well it was fun while it lasted ..

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                                        • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                                          ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                                          With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                                          https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                                          #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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                                          #20

                                          @parismarx moved away long time before LLMs got big, all the tracking and searches was linked to what you were fed when it came to advertisements online.

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