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Hot take: naming doesn’t matter.

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  • cassidy@mastodon.blaede.familyC cassidy@mastodon.blaede.family

    Of course “doesn’t matter” is over generalizing (500 character limit here!). My point is that it matters a whole lot less than we want to admit. “Microsoft” is a hysterically terrible name. “Google” is such a nerdy in-joke. “Apple” is meaningless. “Facebook” is a bit on the nose.

    What will matter more for the fediverse is not what it is called—it’s who people can connect with across what apps and sites that they enjoy using.

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    #14

    This is also about the name “Flathub.” 😝

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    • cassidy@mastodon.blaede.familyC cassidy@mastodon.blaede.family

      Hot take: naming doesn’t matter. The term “fediverse” is goofy and nerdy *and fine, actually.*

      You use the “Internet” every day. “Email” is ubiquitous. We install “apps” on “phones.” You ask for the “Wi-Fi password.” These are all goofy names, yet nobody bats an eye.

      What we call something doesn’t factor into its adoption as much as nerds would have you think. But arguing about naming is easier than doing all of the *other* work required for adoption.

      #FediCon #fediverse #OpenSource

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      #15

      @cassidy "webinar"

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      • dcbaok@fosstodon.orgD dcbaok@fosstodon.org

        @cassidy "webinar"

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        #16

        @dcbaok okay I do categorically refuse to engage with anything described as a webinar, but will happily watch a live stream. 😅

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        • cassidy@mastodon.blaede.familyC cassidy@mastodon.blaede.family

          Hot take: naming doesn’t matter. The term “fediverse” is goofy and nerdy *and fine, actually.*

          You use the “Internet” every day. “Email” is ubiquitous. We install “apps” on “phones.” You ask for the “Wi-Fi password.” These are all goofy names, yet nobody bats an eye.

          What we call something doesn’t factor into its adoption as much as nerds would have you think. But arguing about naming is easier than doing all of the *other* work required for adoption.

          #FediCon #fediverse #OpenSource

          therieau@bitbang.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #17

          @cassidy All of this is fine, but fast casual restaurant chains co-opting “apps” to mean “appetizers” prompts me to find somebody to punch in the throat.

          #SoAngry

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          • cassidy@mastodon.blaede.familyC cassidy@mastodon.blaede.family

            Hot take: naming doesn’t matter. The term “fediverse” is goofy and nerdy *and fine, actually.*

            You use the “Internet” every day. “Email” is ubiquitous. We install “apps” on “phones.” You ask for the “Wi-Fi password.” These are all goofy names, yet nobody bats an eye.

            What we call something doesn’t factor into its adoption as much as nerds would have you think. But arguing about naming is easier than doing all of the *other* work required for adoption.

            #FediCon #fediverse #OpenSource

            seacow@mastodon.artS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #18

            @cassidy besides everyone will just call it mastodon anyway

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            • cassidy@mastodon.blaede.familyC cassidy@mastodon.blaede.family

              Hot take: naming doesn’t matter. The term “fediverse” is goofy and nerdy *and fine, actually.*

              You use the “Internet” every day. “Email” is ubiquitous. We install “apps” on “phones.” You ask for the “Wi-Fi password.” These are all goofy names, yet nobody bats an eye.

              What we call something doesn’t factor into its adoption as much as nerds would have you think. But arguing about naming is easier than doing all of the *other* work required for adoption.

              #FediCon #fediverse #OpenSource

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              #19

              @cassidy
              I was convinced that iPads wouldn't be successful on account of the name. That taught me exactly how wrong I was about names making much of a difference 😅

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              • therieau@bitbang.socialT therieau@bitbang.social

                @cassidy All of this is fine, but fast casual restaurant chains co-opting “apps” to mean “appetizers” prompts me to find somebody to punch in the throat.

                #SoAngry

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                #20

                @therieau I mean… it’s possible restaurants have been using that term since before 2008?

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                • cassidy@mastodon.blaede.familyC cassidy@mastodon.blaede.family

                  @therieau I mean… it’s possible restaurants have been using that term since before 2008?

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                  #21

                  @cassidy If the marketing guy at Applebee’s is a little hoarse, you’ll know what happened.

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                  • cassidy@mastodon.blaede.familyC cassidy@mastodon.blaede.family

                    Hot take: naming doesn’t matter. The term “fediverse” is goofy and nerdy *and fine, actually.*

                    You use the “Internet” every day. “Email” is ubiquitous. We install “apps” on “phones.” You ask for the “Wi-Fi password.” These are all goofy names, yet nobody bats an eye.

                    What we call something doesn’t factor into its adoption as much as nerds would have you think. But arguing about naming is easier than doing all of the *other* work required for adoption.

                    #FediCon #fediverse #OpenSource

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                    #22

                    @cassidy I broadly agree with you, but I think there are also limits when it comes to extreme goofiness and poor taste. For example, remember when Microsoft decided to name the act of sharing songs between Zune users "squirting," and encouraged everyone to squirt with their friends? Zune was already under-performing, but that was pretty much the nail in the coffin of anyone taking it seriously.

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                    • nathandyer@hachyderm.ioN nathandyer@hachyderm.io

                      @cassidy I broadly agree with you, but I think there are also limits when it comes to extreme goofiness and poor taste. For example, remember when Microsoft decided to name the act of sharing songs between Zune users "squirting," and encouraged everyone to squirt with their friends? Zune was already under-performing, but that was pretty much the nail in the coffin of anyone taking it seriously.

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                      #23

                      @nathandyer oh, oh my lmao

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                      • cassidy@mastodon.blaede.familyC cassidy@mastodon.blaede.family

                        @nathandyer oh, oh my lmao

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                        #24

                        @cassidy @nathandyer when ever I hear fediverse I immediately think of fedora.

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                        • cassidy@mastodon.blaede.familyC cassidy@mastodon.blaede.family

                          Hot take: naming doesn’t matter. The term “fediverse” is goofy and nerdy *and fine, actually.*

                          You use the “Internet” every day. “Email” is ubiquitous. We install “apps” on “phones.” You ask for the “Wi-Fi password.” These are all goofy names, yet nobody bats an eye.

                          What we call something doesn’t factor into its adoption as much as nerds would have you think. But arguing about naming is easier than doing all of the *other* work required for adoption.

                          #FediCon #fediverse #OpenSource

                          raven@fedi.raventhemaker.comR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #25

                          @cassidy I still think Wireless-Fidelity was a stupid name.

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                          • cassidy@mastodon.blaede.familyC cassidy@mastodon.blaede.family

                            Hot take: naming doesn’t matter. The term “fediverse” is goofy and nerdy *and fine, actually.*

                            You use the “Internet” every day. “Email” is ubiquitous. We install “apps” on “phones.” You ask for the “Wi-Fi password.” These are all goofy names, yet nobody bats an eye.

                            What we call something doesn’t factor into its adoption as much as nerds would have you think. But arguing about naming is easier than doing all of the *other* work required for adoption.

                            #FediCon #fediverse #OpenSource

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                            #26

                            @cassidy the reason behind calling WiFi WiFi is sooooo dumb. it didn't occur to me that it probably stood for something until recently and I wish I hadn't had that thought now

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                            • raven@fedi.raventhemaker.comR raven@fedi.raventhemaker.com

                              @cassidy I still think Wireless-Fidelity was a stupid name.

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                              #27

                              @cassidy Doesn't stop me from _using_ it, which was your point.

                              But I also think a lot of people call it "wireless" because it's a dumb name

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                              • cassidy@mastodon.blaede.familyC cassidy@mastodon.blaede.family

                                This is also about the name “Flathub.” 😝

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                                #28

                                @cassidy Say Flathub, I think IKEA (Flatpack)

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                                • cassidy@mastodon.blaede.familyC cassidy@mastodon.blaede.family

                                  Hot take: naming doesn’t matter. The term “fediverse” is goofy and nerdy *and fine, actually.*

                                  You use the “Internet” every day. “Email” is ubiquitous. We install “apps” on “phones.” You ask for the “Wi-Fi password.” These are all goofy names, yet nobody bats an eye.

                                  What we call something doesn’t factor into its adoption as much as nerds would have you think. But arguing about naming is easier than doing all of the *other* work required for adoption.

                                  #FediCon #fediverse #OpenSource

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                                  #29

                                  @cassidy The decision made by GNU Project to name their image manipulation program after an ableist slur is awful though.

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                                  • cassidy@mastodon.blaede.familyC cassidy@mastodon.blaede.family

                                    Hot take: naming doesn’t matter. The term “fediverse” is goofy and nerdy *and fine, actually.*

                                    You use the “Internet” every day. “Email” is ubiquitous. We install “apps” on “phones.” You ask for the “Wi-Fi password.” These are all goofy names, yet nobody bats an eye.

                                    What we call something doesn’t factor into its adoption as much as nerds would have you think. But arguing about naming is easier than doing all of the *other* work required for adoption.

                                    #FediCon #fediverse #OpenSource

                                    pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #30

                                    @cassidy
                                    "fediverse" is a great name.

                                    but there are some limits. with that opensource image editor, the name gets so much in the way that i just tell my friends to use inkscape. 😉

                                    or certain ruby packages...
                                    https://rubygems.org/gems/cocaine/versions/0.6.0

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