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KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

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  • ozzelot@snac.sklenicekrtku.czO ozzelot@snac.sklenicekrtku.cz
    @davidgerard@circumstances.run
    I like and currently use KDE.

    I don't want my desktop to love me. I want it to launch and organize programs, notify me of things, and not get in the goddamn way.
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    #20

    @ozzelot @davidgerard as a kde user myself, exactly the same

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    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

      KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

      https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

      fuckin

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      #21

      @davidgerard no no no no, not like this...

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      • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

        @skyfaller @zzt @davidgerard so sad that computers don't have cd-rom drives anymore...

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        #22

        @lumi @skyfaller @davidgerard @zzt some fun trivia: in south africa 3.5in floppies used to be called stiffy disks. so we had stiffy drives. was good times

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        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

          KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

          https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

          fuckin

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          #23

          @davidgerard

          sir i dont want my desktop
          to „love me back“ - the thing i love (haha) about computers is that they can be (totally in theory, sometimes it happens actually in practice) deterministic without emotional baggage and all the complications it usually brings…

          actually my love here is totally NOT unconditional but hard bound to the thing to work and not annoy or surprise me

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          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

            note how this promises a bunch of shit that AI coding doesn't even do slightly.

            custom compiled desktops for every user! what?

            (that's the Resonant Computing manifesto, a document completely detached from technical reality https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/12/17/the-resonant-computing-manifesto-same-ai-slop-same-ai-guys/ )

            this "talk" looks like someone at KDE has made the decision to go slop and is trying to generate the appearance of consent. you've seen this playbook repeatedly.

            also this abstract was written with a chatbot

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            #24

            @davidgerard "custom compiled desktops for ever user"
            That sounds like some shit suckless would do. I use Plasma because I don't want to deal with that!

            art_codesmith@toot.cafeA jackielovescompchem32@scicomm.xyzJ 2 Replies Last reply
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            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

              KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

              https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

              fuckin

              art_codesmith@toot.cafeA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #25

              @davidgerard
              @kde Please no.
              I don't need a desktop to "love me". I need it to work reliably.
              I don't need a desktop to "know me better". I need it to respect my settings, my privacy and my compute.

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              • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                @davidgerard "custom compiled desktops for ever user"
                That sounds like some shit suckless would do. I use Plasma because I don't want to deal with that!

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                #26

                @jackemled @davidgerard I don't think they mean literally compiled (given that they talk about Activities, Plasmoids, etc), I think they mean "custom configuration".
                But siccing an LLM onto a visual language is the last thing I'd wanna do. Remember Claude Design?

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                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                  note how this promises a bunch of shit that AI coding doesn't even do slightly.

                  custom compiled desktops for every user! what?

                  (that's the Resonant Computing manifesto, a document completely detached from technical reality https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/12/17/the-resonant-computing-manifesto-same-ai-slop-same-ai-guys/ )

                  this "talk" looks like someone at KDE has made the decision to go slop and is trying to generate the appearance of consent. you've seen this playbook repeatedly.

                  also this abstract was written with a chatbot

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                  #27

                  but david why won't you assume good faith in this proposal to add AI slop to KDE?

                  because it's made in polite and civil-toned bad faith

                  and KDE just accepted a conference submission written with a chatbot, the bad faith comes right there in the package

                  zzt@mas.toZ bms@mastodon.bsd.cafeB wilson6923@veganism.socialW jer@chirp.enworld.orgJ bafdyce@chaos.socialB 5 Replies Last reply
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                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                    but david why won't you assume good faith in this proposal to add AI slop to KDE?

                    because it's made in polite and civil-toned bad faith

                    and KDE just accepted a conference submission written with a chatbot, the bad faith comes right there in the package

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                    #28

                    @davidgerard why won’t you assume good faith from the type of person who’s been operating in maximally bad faith for at least 5 years continuously, if not longer?

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                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                      but david why won't you assume good faith in this proposal to add AI slop to KDE?

                      because it's made in polite and civil-toned bad faith

                      and KDE just accepted a conference submission written with a chatbot, the bad faith comes right there in the package

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                      #29

                      @davidgerard @zzt Oh crap. Not KDE now as well? *hovers over Trinity link*

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                      • art_codesmith@toot.cafeA art_codesmith@toot.cafe

                        @jackemled @davidgerard I don't think they mean literally compiled (given that they talk about Activities, Plasmoids, etc), I think they mean "custom configuration".
                        But siccing an LLM onto a visual language is the last thing I'd wanna do. Remember Claude Design?

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                        #30

                        @art_codesmith @davidgerard Plasma can already do that. Each one of my desktops looks absolutely nothing like anyone else's. See my "I sawed this panel in half!" post if you can find it.

                        I don't remember Claude Design & I don't want to. It sounds horrible & I never want to be exposed to it. I already feel molested enough each time my bank makes its app's UI worse.

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                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                          note how this promises a bunch of shit that AI coding doesn't even do slightly.

                          custom compiled desktops for every user! what?

                          (that's the Resonant Computing manifesto, a document completely detached from technical reality https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/12/17/the-resonant-computing-manifesto-same-ai-slop-same-ai-guys/ )

                          this "talk" looks like someone at KDE has made the decision to go slop and is trying to generate the appearance of consent. you've seen this playbook repeatedly.

                          also this abstract was written with a chatbot

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                          #31

                          @davidgerard Seems rather normal for this kinda project.

                          It's a huge beast of project trying to compete with Windows and MacOS UI's that are long knee deep in this stuff.

                          Thankfully there's not a shortage of desktop toys to choose from.

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                          • bms@mastodon.bsd.cafeB bms@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                            @davidgerard @zzt Oh crap. Not KDE now as well? *hovers over Trinity link*

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                            #32

                            @bms @zzt i am sorry to say that TDE went full slop a while ago

                            https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde/issues/288

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                            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                              but david why won't you assume good faith in this proposal to add AI slop to KDE?

                              because it's made in polite and civil-toned bad faith

                              and KDE just accepted a conference submission written with a chatbot, the bad faith comes right there in the package

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                              #33

                              @davidgerard never offer faith, where money is involved. Make them say that shit.

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                              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                @bms @zzt i am sorry to say that TDE went full slop a while ago

                                https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde/issues/288

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                                #34

                                @davidgerard @zzt The appropriate cutscene now would seem to be Lt. Gorman in "Aliens" (1986) spouting "Ahhhhh shit." and ordering his marines to fall back and use the incinerators.

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                                • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                                  @davidgerard "custom compiled desktops for ever user"
                                  That sounds like some shit suckless would do. I use Plasma because I don't want to deal with that!

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                                  #35

                                  @jackemled @davidgerard I use Gentoo, to have the experience of a custom compiled desktop without as much AI slop

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                                  • bms@mastodon.bsd.cafeB bms@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                    @davidgerard @zzt The appropriate cutscene now would seem to be Lt. Gorman in "Aliens" (1986) spouting "Ahhhhh shit." and ordering his marines to fall back and use the incinerators.

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                                    #36

                                    @bms @zzt

                                    me: I wonder how TDE's going
                                    me: oh no

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                                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                      @bms @zzt

                                      me: I wonder how TDE's going
                                      me: oh no

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                                      #37

                                      @bms @zzt i think CDE might be clear

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                                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                        @bms @zzt i think CDE might be clear

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                                        #38

                                        @davidgerard @bms embrace emacs

                                        the weirder the better

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                                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                          KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                                          https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                                          fuckin

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                                          #39

                                          @davidgerard I mean, who wrote this? 🤣

                                          Did they blow their tokens before they got to the Description section?

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