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  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

    ⚠️ Important headsup if you are on the server mastodon.cloud:

    Mastodon.cloud no longer seems to be moderated. Its admin account hasn't posted since Feb 2023, its code of conduct is blank and there are vile racists posting from there. The racists have been reported many times but their accounts are still active.

    Because of this, other server admins are starting to block mastodon.cloud completely.

    If you're on mastodon.cloud you might want to move to another server ASAP: https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

    mkljczk@pl.fediverse.plM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #14
    @FediTips it definitely is moderated, @niebezpiecznik_pl can say something about it lmao
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    • mkljczk@pl.fediverse.plM mkljczk@pl.fediverse.pl
      @FediTips it definitely is moderated, @niebezpiecznik_pl can say something about it lmao
      feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #15

      @mkljczk

      If it's moderated, why is it allowing the worst kind of racial hatred even when it's been reported many times over a long period?

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      • 0tracas@veganism.social0 0tracas@veganism.social

        @FediTips ⚠️ Mise en garde importante si vous êtes sur le serveur mastodon.cloud :

        Mastodon.cloud ne semble plus être modéré. Son compte administrateur n'a pas posté depuis février 2023, son code de conduite est vide et d'ignobles racistes y postent. Les racistes ont été signalés à plusieurs reprises, mais leurs comptes sont toujours actifs.

        À cause de cela, d'autres administrateurs de serveurs commencent à bloquer complètement mastodon.cloud.

        Si vous êtes sur mastodon.cloud, vous devriez peut-être changer de serveur au plus vite : https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

        calaad@mamot.frC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #16

        @0tracas @FediTips
        A noter que lorsqu'on migre son compte ainsi, on migre les comptes qu'on suit et ceux qui nous suivent, mais pas les posts eux-même.
        ------
        Please note that when you migrate your account in this way, you migrate the accounts you follow and those who follow you, but not the posts themselves.

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        • calaad@mamot.frC calaad@mamot.fr

          @0tracas @FediTips
          A noter que lorsqu'on migre son compte ainsi, on migre les comptes qu'on suit et ceux qui nous suivent, mais pas les posts eux-même.
          ------
          Please note that when you migrate your account in this way, you migrate the accounts you follow and those who follow you, but not the posts themselves.

          feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #17

          @calaad

          Yup, I've tried to cover this in the guide.

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            ⚠️ Important headsup if you are on the server mastodon.cloud:

            Mastodon.cloud no longer seems to be moderated. Its admin account hasn't posted since Feb 2023, its code of conduct is blank and there are vile racists posting from there. The racists have been reported many times but their accounts are still active.

            Because of this, other server admins are starting to block mastodon.cloud completely.

            If you're on mastodon.cloud you might want to move to another server ASAP: https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

            mthaastrup@helvede.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #18

            @FediTips

            @queen til jeres orientering!

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            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

              ⚠️ Important headsup if you are on the server mastodon.cloud:

              Mastodon.cloud no longer seems to be moderated. Its admin account hasn't posted since Feb 2023, its code of conduct is blank and there are vile racists posting from there. The racists have been reported many times but their accounts are still active.

              Because of this, other server admins are starting to block mastodon.cloud completely.

              If you're on mastodon.cloud you might want to move to another server ASAP: https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

              quattrocchi@mastodon.cloudQ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #19

              @FediTips Collective punishment is unethical. Rule violations are best handled individually, not through broad blocks by association. Mastodon.cloud, despite lighter moderation, has remained open and interoperable for years—unlike other instances that block hundreds of millions of accounts hosted on popular services and eventually shut down.

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              • quattrocchi@mastodon.cloudQ quattrocchi@mastodon.cloud

                @FediTips Collective punishment is unethical. Rule violations are best handled individually, not through broad blocks by association. Mastodon.cloud, despite lighter moderation, has remained open and interoperable for years—unlike other instances that block hundreds of millions of accounts hosted on popular services and eventually shut down.

                toriver@mas.toT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #20

                @quattrocchi @FediTips It’s not «unethical», it is the best technical response to an unmanaged cesspool. Blocking individually is pointless against a server where nazis can just make a new account and keep posting.

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                • toriver@mas.toT toriver@mas.to

                  @quattrocchi @FediTips It’s not «unethical», it is the best technical response to an unmanaged cesspool. Blocking individually is pointless against a server where nazis can just make a new account and keep posting.

                  quattrocchi@mastodon.cloudQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #21

                  @toriver @FediTips Most people on the service are regular social media users, but here this mob is demonizing the whole instance as a "cesspool" and executing a totalitarian cleansing of everyone on the service.

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                  • quattrocchi@mastodon.cloudQ quattrocchi@mastodon.cloud

                    @toriver @FediTips Most people on the service are regular social media users, but here this mob is demonizing the whole instance as a "cesspool" and executing a totalitarian cleansing of everyone on the service.

                    toriver@mas.toT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #22

                    @quattrocchi @FediTips No, they are still there. Freedom of speech is not an entitlement to an audience, other servers see the unmanaged server as a problem and defederates from it, reducing its reach. Their house, their rules.

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                    • toriver@mas.toT toriver@mas.to

                      @quattrocchi @FediTips No, they are still there. Freedom of speech is not an entitlement to an audience, other servers see the unmanaged server as a problem and defederates from it, reducing its reach. Their house, their rules.

                      quattrocchi@mastodon.cloudQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #23

                      @toriver @FediTips Musk and his allies used that argument to rationalize the abuse of his employees and users. I disagree that anyone has the right to abuse other humans even in their house. Social disenfranchisement—cutting people off from public services—is abuse. Most on this platform did nothing wrong. A few bad interactions can’t justify punishing everyone.

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        p.s. If you want to see an example of vile racism hosted on mastodon.cloud, here is one:

                        https://web.archive.org/web/20250814135220/https://mastodon.cloud/@CensorsAreCultists/114392734452324522

                        Note the date, the account is still active and is still posting this kind of racial hatred despite being reported.

                        EDIT: This post now seems to have been deleted seemingly by the account itself. The racist account itself just posted a follow-up trying to "explain" their statement with more extreme racism 🤮 https://mastodon.cloud/@CensorsAreCultists/115027872775410534

                        konakona@social.linux.pizzaK This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #24

                        @FediTips the best thing to do with those kind of account is to ignore them and not give them the attention. If you share this for everyone to see you are giving them the attention they want. But yeah unmoderated instance can be pretty bad.

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                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                          ⚠️ Important headsup if you are on the server mastodon.cloud:

                          Mastodon.cloud no longer seems to be moderated. Its admin account hasn't posted since Feb 2023, its code of conduct is blank and there are vile racists posting from there. The racists have been reported many times but their accounts are still active.

                          Because of this, other server admins are starting to block mastodon.cloud completely.

                          If you're on mastodon.cloud you might want to move to another server ASAP: https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

                          leftic@gs.leftic.clubL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #25

                          @FediTips
                          @designthinkingcomic @lealinux @mahtin

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                          • quattrocchi@mastodon.cloudQ quattrocchi@mastodon.cloud

                            @toriver @FediTips Musk and his allies used that argument to rationalize the abuse of his employees and users. I disagree that anyone has the right to abuse other humans even in their house. Social disenfranchisement—cutting people off from public services—is abuse. Most on this platform did nothing wrong. A few bad interactions can’t justify punishing everyone.

                            toriver@mas.toT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #26

                            @quattrocchi @FediTips A given Mastodon instance is a PRIVATE service, not a public one. Again, if they want to sit in their more and more isolated instance then that is fine, after all both Gab and Truth Social use Mastodon without federating with anyone. The rest of the Mastodon servers are not obliged to federate with them either. It’s not «abuse» in any form.

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                            • leftic@gs.leftic.clubL leftic@gs.leftic.club

                              @FediTips
                              @designthinkingcomic @lealinux @mahtin

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                              #27

                              @leftic @FediTips @lealinux @mahtin Sigh. Okay, let's see quickly I mess this up.

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                              • quattrocchi@mastodon.cloudQ quattrocchi@mastodon.cloud

                                @FediTips Collective punishment is unethical. Rule violations are best handled individually, not through broad blocks by association. Mastodon.cloud, despite lighter moderation, has remained open and interoperable for years—unlike other instances that block hundreds of millions of accounts hosted on popular services and eventually shut down.

                                feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #28

                                @quattrocchi

                                It's not collective punishment, don't be ridiculous. It's an individual's right and responsibility to choose an instance, and move instances if they don't like how it behaves.

                                You're infantilising Fedi members by claiming they have no agency or ability or alternatives.

                                Also, mastodon.cloud isn't even updating its own software any more, it's several updates behind the latest supported versions. This is not good for its members, it means security holes may not be fixed.

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                                • designthinkingcomic@mastodon.cloudD designthinkingcomic@mastodon.cloud

                                  @leftic @FediTips @lealinux @mahtin Sigh. Okay, let's see quickly I mess this up.

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                                  #29

                                  @designthinkingcomic

                                  If you want help with moving please feel free to ask! (I've tried to make the guide as easy as possible, and answer common questions, but guides aren't as useful as direct answers.)

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                                  • quattrocchi@mastodon.cloudQ quattrocchi@mastodon.cloud

                                    @toriver @FediTips Most people on the service are regular social media users, but here this mob is demonizing the whole instance as a "cesspool" and executing a totalitarian cleansing of everyone on the service.

                                    feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #30

                                    @quattrocchi @toriver

                                    Can you please stop using such ludicrous hyperbolic terms for what is just a server block on a federated network where people can move to different servers?

                                    "executing a totalitarian cleansing"? Can you hear yourself? Are you serious or are you a troll?

                                    Real life actual totalitarianism rises when lies about vulnerable groups are allowed to spread widely. Vulnerable groups get attacked and murdered in real life because of such lies: https://social.chinwag.org/@FediThing/112581263140051643

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                                    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                      @quattrocchi

                                      It's not collective punishment, don't be ridiculous. It's an individual's right and responsibility to choose an instance, and move instances if they don't like how it behaves.

                                      You're infantilising Fedi members by claiming they have no agency or ability or alternatives.

                                      Also, mastodon.cloud isn't even updating its own software any more, it's several updates behind the latest supported versions. This is not good for its members, it means security holes may not be fixed.

                                      quattrocchi@mastodon.cloudQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #31

                                      @FediTips It has become routine for viral posts to rally a mob into blocking entire instances—thousands of accounts—over a few bad interactions. While this may feel empowering for in-groups or those with large followings, it fosters a toxic environment. In this case, a dependable, useful, and constructive instance is being demonized and ostracized.

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                                      • toriver@mas.toT toriver@mas.to

                                        @quattrocchi @FediTips A given Mastodon instance is a PRIVATE service, not a public one. Again, if they want to sit in their more and more isolated instance then that is fine, after all both Gab and Truth Social use Mastodon without federating with anyone. The rest of the Mastodon servers are not obliged to federate with them either. It’s not «abuse» in any form.

                                        quattrocchi@mastodon.cloudQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #32

                                        @toriver @FediTips A Mastodon instance is a PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION. There are laws around the world addressing common-carriers or gatekeeping regulation of digital platforms.

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                                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                          p.p.s. A lot of legitimate non-problematic accounts joined mastodon.cloud when it was still moderated. I'm guessing most of the ones still on there are there because they don't realise what has happened.

                                          If you know someone still on mastodon.cloud, you might want to politely let them know what the situation is and suggest they move. I'm sure most will be horrified about what's happening and keen to move to a different server. If they need help moving, the guide is at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

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                                          #33

                                          @FediTips

                                          Is there a way to search (easily 😬 ) my follows and followers for their respective instances?

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