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  • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

    @FediTips @alex_p_roe I think "AI" gets a bad name too easily these days, because everyone treats it as synonymous with LLMs like Chat GPT. You can be skeptical of LLMs and generative AI, but still appreciate many technologies that rely on machine learning that have done great things for humanity, like discover new medicines, or make translation better.
    But that's a topic for a whole new thread...

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    #265

    @hpod16 @alex_p_roe

    Yup. The term is just... it's used so broadly now that it is unclear what it means any more.

    It's difficult to even use the term "AI" any more because people assume it means LLMs and generative junk.

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      @alex_p_roe @hpod16

      Just to be clear, the translation services on here are not "AI" in the sense of ChatGPT etc. They aren't large language models.

      LibreTranslate and DeepL use a different technology and were founded years before ChatGPT etc.

      The term "AI" has been used a bit too freely by the media to the point where people assume it means awful unreliable stuff like ChatGPT and other LLMs.

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      #266

      @FediTips DeepL describes itself to use a "advanced LLM", though.

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      • brennpunktua@mastodon.socialB brennpunktua@mastodon.social

        @FediTips DeepL describes itself to use a "advanced LLM", though.

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        #267

        @BrennpunktUA

        Ah okay, I wasn't aware of that. I hope it's not going down the path of ChatGPT type stuff 😬

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        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

          @hpod16 @alex_p_roe

          Yup. The term is just... it's used so broadly now that it is unclear what it means any more.

          It's difficult to even use the term "AI" any more because people assume it means LLMs and generative junk.

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          #268

          @FediTips @hpod16 @alex_p_roe It's quite important to differentiate, since e.g. DeepL is protecting your privacy and personal data by only using personal data within the scope of legal regulations, in particular the General Data Protection Regulation ("GDPR") and the German Federal Data Protection Act ("BDSG"). This is also the reason why using DeepL is allowed in German public authorities, but ChatGPT absolutely is not.

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          • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

            Here's my first Mastodon post!
            My mission out here? To understand and promote Mastodon, the only large European social media platform (to my knowledge).
            How can we make more Europeans come to the Fediverse?

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            #269

            @hpod16 Hi, and welcome!

            Two points:

            1. People think there's nobody here, because they wait for followers. But that's not how it works. You have to follow others here.

            2. Although originally a German invention, there are people here from all over the world.

            There are quite a few Mastodon 101 websites out there that explain how it all works, and who to follow, etc. People just have to find them and read.

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              #270

              @BrennpunktUA@mastodon.social @FediTips @altbot Remember that LLMs have problems with hallucinating - making things up - it’s an issue that has not been fully resolved yet. This is why translations produced by LLM tech still need checking (by humans) for accuracy.

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                #271

                @BrennpunktUA@mastodon.social @FediTips @altbot I have experienced the LLM hallucination phenomenon several times. And one LLM I’ve used repeated items when asked for lists.

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                • jill@mastodon.deJ jill@mastodon.de

                  @FediTips @hpod16 @alex_p_roe It's quite important to differentiate, since e.g. DeepL is protecting your privacy and personal data by only using personal data within the scope of legal regulations, in particular the General Data Protection Regulation ("GDPR") and the German Federal Data Protection Act ("BDSG"). This is also the reason why using DeepL is allowed in German public authorities, but ChatGPT absolutely is not.

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                  #272

                  @jill @FediTips @hpod16 After a little scrolling and quite a bit of reading, I found mention of the fact that DeepL is a company in Europe. No idea where in Europe! I guess I'll just look for a Wikipedia entry or ask an LLM 🙂

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                  • alex_p_roe@mastodon.worldA alex_p_roe@mastodon.world

                    @jill @FediTips @hpod16 After a little scrolling and quite a bit of reading, I found mention of the fact that DeepL is a company in Europe. No idea where in Europe! I guess I'll just look for a Wikipedia entry or ask an LLM 🙂

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                    #273

                    @alex_p_roe @jill @FediTips
                    I believe it's German

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                    • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                      @alex_p_roe @jill @FediTips
                      I believe it's German

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                      #274

                      @hpod16 @alex_p_roe @FediTips

                      Ich liebe einfach, die Seiten, die sich an die Impressumspflicht halten. 😁
                      https://www.deepl.com/de/publisher

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                      • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                        @alex_p_roe @jill @FediTips
                        I believe it's German

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                        #275

                        @hpod16 @jill @FediTips Yup, based in Cologne, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany - via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepL_Translator

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                        • jill@mastodon.deJ jill@mastodon.de

                          @hpod16 @alex_p_roe @FediTips

                          Ich liebe einfach, die Seiten, die sich an die Impressumspflicht halten. 😁
                          https://www.deepl.com/de/publisher

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                          #276

                          @jill @hpod16 @FediTips I missed the Publisher (odd name) section and looked at About US 🙂

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                          • jill@mastodon.deJ jill@mastodon.de

                            @hpod16 @alex_p_roe @FediTips

                            Ich liebe einfach, die Seiten, die sich an die Impressumspflicht halten. 😁
                            https://www.deepl.com/de/publisher

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                            #277

                            @jill @alex_p_roe @FediTips
                            when you find the info you were looking for on a well organised website

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                            • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                              @jill @alex_p_roe @FediTips
                              when you find the info you were looking for on a well organised website

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                              #278

                              @hpod16 @jill @FediTips Well, the info was there - just not where I expected to find it. I tend to look at the bottom of the home page or the About Us and then the contact us pages…and then go to Wikipedia 🙂

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                              • alex_p_roe@mastodon.worldA alex_p_roe@mastodon.world

                                @jill @hpod16 @FediTips I missed the Publisher (odd name) section and looked at About US 🙂

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                                #279

                                @alex_p_roe Yeah, I recognised that too. When following the link on the bottom "Impressum", the site name changed to "publisher" instead of imprint since publisher is more known to be used in a well, publishing context. 😁

                                @hpod16 @FediTips

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                                • jill@mastodon.deJ jill@mastodon.de

                                  @alex_p_roe Yeah, I recognised that too. When following the link on the bottom "Impressum", the site name changed to "publisher" instead of imprint since publisher is more known to be used in a well, publishing context. 😁

                                  @hpod16 @FediTips

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                                  #280

                                  @jill @hpod16 @FediTips Well, the term publisher is used in the software industry too in English. Don't know about German. I just didn't see it or look for the word.

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                                  • alex_p_roe@mastodon.worldA alex_p_roe@mastodon.world

                                    @jill @hpod16 @FediTips Well, the term publisher is used in the software industry too in English. Don't know about German. I just didn't see it or look for the word.

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                                    #281

                                    @alex_p_roe Interesting. Would you say publisher has the same legal meaning as imprint in that context?

                                    @hpod16 @FediTips

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                                    • jill@mastodon.deJ jill@mastodon.de

                                      @alex_p_roe Interesting. Would you say publisher has the same legal meaning as imprint in that context?

                                      @hpod16 @FediTips

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                                      #282

                                      @jill @hpod16 @FediTips Yes, publisher in general parlance in the past would be a company that prints books. Via Wikipedia: Publishing is the process of making information, literature, music, software, and other content, physical or digital, available to the public for sale or free of charge. DeepL is not wrong to use the word.

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                                      • jill@mastodon.deJ jill@mastodon.de

                                        @alex_p_roe Interesting. Would you say publisher has the same legal meaning as imprint in that context?

                                        @hpod16 @FediTips

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                                        #283

                                        @jill @hpod16 @FediTips #DeepL is here: https://european-alternatives.eu/alternative-to/google-translate - under the #European alternatives to #Google #Translate category 🙂

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                                        • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                                          @ptvirgo that is indeed a topic for a fresh thread.
                                          And perhaps a fresh day. It's 11PM over here, time to get off the screen, switch over to one of my favourite #DnD Podcasts and drift off to sleep.
                                          But thanks for asking! 💜

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                                          #284

                                          @ptvirgo PS: thanks for the inspiration, I did it 💜

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