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Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button.

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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    @leonardof I'm not sure but @Njord might be able to tell you

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    #27

    @eniko @Njord BTW the Brazilian product page says there's a fuse which can trip if current exceeds 10 A, but the fuse should be resettable

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    • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

      @sinbad @eniko @Njord
      I got fed up with batteries in door bell button and the "bell" and unreliability (433 MHz).
      Eventually I found a real wired pushbutton and BingBong inside box, though that used batteries. So I added a transformer to 8V AC at the fuse box, because the bing-bong real solenoid doesn't care about AC or DC. The bulb in the door bell button is across the switch, so in series & glows orange, thus long life.

      1950s technology, but 100% reliable.

      No spying to Amazon.

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      #28

      @raymaccarthy @sinbad @eniko @Njord

      We had kinda the opposite in our last house. The button-push was wired to a battery-powered bell box, but the builders had put the bell and the battery directly above a radiator, which meant that we had to change the batteries every six weeks or so, because batteries don't like heat. We eventually gave up on it and installed something mains-powered.

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      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

        Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

        So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

        It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

        Neat!

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        #29

        @eniko @Njord that's really cool!

        So why isn't working as well now? Piezoelectric crystal got consumed or something?

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        • cppguy@infosec.spaceC cppguy@infosec.space

          @raymaccarthy @sinbad @eniko @Njord

          We had kinda the opposite in our last house. The button-push was wired to a battery-powered bell box, but the builders had put the bell and the battery directly above a radiator, which meant that we had to change the batteries every six weeks or so, because batteries don't like heat. We eventually gave up on it and installed something mains-powered.

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          #30

          @CppGuy @sinbad @eniko @Njord
          I've added mains and/or rechargeable to many battery things starting with a VFD calculator.

          Now all the non-heating/cooking stuff is on a Solar & Grid charged UPS. 12 main panels and about 14 kWh of LiFePO4 batteries.
          No more annual PC UPS battery replacement.

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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

            So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

            It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

            Neat!

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            #31

            @eniko @Njord I have a button like this too. Feels like magic!

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            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

              Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

              So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

              It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

              Neat!

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              #32

              @eniko

              German CASO has several models of battery free kitchen scales (as an idea, maybe other brands are available locally):
              https://caso-design.de/de/p/caso-kitchen-energy-design-kuechenwaage-mit-kitchen-energy-technologie/
              (via the menu you can change region to UK - while selecting Benelux doesn't seem to work)

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                Neat!

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                #33

                @eniko @Njord
                Enocean is a conglomerate of smarthome appliances purely designed with energy harvesting. No changing batterys ever.

                Unfortunately it is rather expensive and more difficult to integrate.

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                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                  So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                  It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                  Neat!

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                  #34

                  @eniko @Njord reading this has brought me the same joy as when I learnt that the circuitry inside NFC cards is powered by the electromagnetic current that sends the data

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                    #35

                    @LunaDragofelis @dequbed @eniko @Njord

                    You can receive free electrons off of glucose through enzymatic breakdown similar than the body does - although the body stores it chemically in ATP or others.

                    It is however currently no longterm solution since the enzymes break down over time.

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                    • oblomov@sociale.networkO oblomov@sociale.network

                      @eniko @Njord that's really cool!

                      So why isn't working as well now? Piezoelectric crystal got consumed or something?

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                      #36

                      @oblomov @Njord yeah I guess? It's years old at this point

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