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Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button.

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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

    So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

    It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

    Neat!

    paul@notnull.spaceP This user is from outside of this forum
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    #23

    @eniko @Njord speaking on behalf of the fediverse: yes, we like this

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    • sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.placeS sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place

      @eniko @Njord our front door bell is like that, it’s nice not having to wonder about missing a delivery because the battery died, it can’t now. Love tech that makes life simpler not more complicated

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      #24

      @sinbad @eniko @Njord
      I got fed up with batteries in door bell button and the "bell" and unreliability (433 MHz).
      Eventually I found a real wired pushbutton and BingBong inside box, though that used batteries. So I added a transformer to 8V AC at the fuse box, because the bing-bong real solenoid doesn't care about AC or DC. The bulb in the door bell button is across the switch, so in series & glows orange, thus long life.

      1950s technology, but 100% reliable.

      No spying to Amazon.

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      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

        Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

        So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

        It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

        Neat!

        leonardof@bertha.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #25

        @eniko @Njord ELG PowerCube/PowerRemote?

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        • leonardof@bertha.socialL leonardof@bertha.social

          @eniko @Njord ELG PowerCube/PowerRemote?

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          #26

          @leonardof I'm not sure but @Njord might be able to tell you

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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            @leonardof I'm not sure but @Njord might be able to tell you

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            #27

            @eniko @Njord BTW the Brazilian product page says there's a fuse which can trip if current exceeds 10 A, but the fuse should be resettable

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            • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

              @sinbad @eniko @Njord
              I got fed up with batteries in door bell button and the "bell" and unreliability (433 MHz).
              Eventually I found a real wired pushbutton and BingBong inside box, though that used batteries. So I added a transformer to 8V AC at the fuse box, because the bing-bong real solenoid doesn't care about AC or DC. The bulb in the door bell button is across the switch, so in series & glows orange, thus long life.

              1950s technology, but 100% reliable.

              No spying to Amazon.

              cppguy@infosec.spaceC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #28

              @raymaccarthy @sinbad @eniko @Njord

              We had kinda the opposite in our last house. The button-push was wired to a battery-powered bell box, but the builders had put the bell and the battery directly above a radiator, which meant that we had to change the batteries every six weeks or so, because batteries don't like heat. We eventually gave up on it and installed something mains-powered.

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                Neat!

                oblomov@sociale.networkO This user is from outside of this forum
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                #29

                @eniko @Njord that's really cool!

                So why isn't working as well now? Piezoelectric crystal got consumed or something?

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                • cppguy@infosec.spaceC cppguy@infosec.space

                  @raymaccarthy @sinbad @eniko @Njord

                  We had kinda the opposite in our last house. The button-push was wired to a battery-powered bell box, but the builders had put the bell and the battery directly above a radiator, which meant that we had to change the batteries every six weeks or so, because batteries don't like heat. We eventually gave up on it and installed something mains-powered.

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                  #30

                  @CppGuy @sinbad @eniko @Njord
                  I've added mains and/or rechargeable to many battery things starting with a VFD calculator.

                  Now all the non-heating/cooking stuff is on a Solar & Grid charged UPS. 12 main panels and about 14 kWh of LiFePO4 batteries.
                  No more annual PC UPS battery replacement.

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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                    So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                    It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                    Neat!

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                    #31

                    @eniko @Njord I have a button like this too. Feels like magic!

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                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                      So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                      It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                      Neat!

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                      #32

                      @eniko

                      German CASO has several models of battery free kitchen scales (as an idea, maybe other brands are available locally):
                      https://caso-design.de/de/p/caso-kitchen-energy-design-kuechenwaage-mit-kitchen-energy-technologie/
                      (via the menu you can change region to UK - while selecting Benelux doesn't seem to work)

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                        So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                        It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                        Neat!

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                        #33

                        @eniko @Njord
                        Enocean is a conglomerate of smarthome appliances purely designed with energy harvesting. No changing batterys ever.

                        Unfortunately it is rather expensive and more difficult to integrate.

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                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                          So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                          It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                          Neat!

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                          #34

                          @eniko @Njord reading this has brought me the same joy as when I learnt that the circuitry inside NFC cards is powered by the electromagnetic current that sends the data

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                            #35

                            @LunaDragofelis @dequbed @eniko @Njord

                            You can receive free electrons off of glucose through enzymatic breakdown similar than the body does - although the body stores it chemically in ATP or others.

                            It is however currently no longterm solution since the enzymes break down over time.

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                            • oblomov@sociale.networkO oblomov@sociale.network

                              @eniko @Njord that's really cool!

                              So why isn't working as well now? Piezoelectric crystal got consumed or something?

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                              #36

                              @oblomov @Njord yeah I guess? It's years old at this point

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