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if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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    #51

    @eniko These are two different issues. “Third spaces” have nothing inherently to do with laws restricting minors’ access to online information. And computers aren’t the 1990s TV: they can be places for learning, creating, researching, programming and socializing. “Go outside” isn’t a policy argument.

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    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

      if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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      #52

      @eniko also the solution to toxic systems can't be to "keep kids away from them until they are of age", it needs to be improving the systems to not be f*cking toxic for anyone 😬

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      • helpstertee@social.helpsterte.euH helpstertee@social.helpsterte.eu

        @pizzadoesntexist@mastodon.social
        US: no clue, maybe
        EU: we still have courts left that do work for us

        If they go through with it anyways, there are enough people who will call out their bullshit and we need to amplify that into offline spaces. Happened in the past, will happen again.

        That's why she still has that nickname
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zugangserschwerungsgesetz

        From the start, the project was the subject of intense political debate, in which the family minister gained the iconic nickname Zensursula – a portmanteau of the German word Zensur for “censorship” and her first name Ursula.
        Yah, well, we'll see...

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        #53

        @helpsterTee @eniko perhaps you're right. time will tell. from where i sit, it doesn't look like that. thankfully i have a twisted sense of humor so i can amuse myself with the irony of it all.

        for years we've been so worried about fascism, communism, dictatorships ... turns out democracy was the perfect tool to enslave us all. in hindsight it makes sense - you can use the stick to enslave people, but you can't keep them there long. use a carrot instead and the picture changes dramatically.

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        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

          if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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          #54

          @eniko One school got tech-bound students to go outside in one lesson onto the grass. To play.

          Except they had no idea how to play.

          After a few days they started rushing outside to play.

          We need the culture to make the real world not tech focal.

          Stigmatising tech use in public by govt 'zombie' videos would have a massive effect to help steer that path.

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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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            #55

            @eniko you go outside and sit in the dirt and wallow like we did when we were kids
            And you'll thank me for it too

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              #56

              @matty @eniko people make friends today as well despite social media, of course.

              but i don't think the problem with social is just about making friends (or not). i think it's more about growing up, being exposed to life, getting a bruise or two (physically and emotionally), slowing down, learning restraint and probably a bunch of other things.

              i do agree with you that nothing would be perfect at this point.

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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                #57

                @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place
                Restore 3rd spaces for everyone, especially outdoor spaces and activities.

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                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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                  #58

                  @eniko With the climate the way it is, my area has just The two seasons now - hot or cold.

                  The hot is routinely "extreme heat warning".
                  The cold is routinely "warming centers on the news".

                  We don't get lots of snow. It's just cold and miserable.

                  I want to go outside more than I do, double for the kids, but it's just always awful now.

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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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                    #59

                    @eniko

                    What are 1st and 2nd places - home and school?

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                      @eniko

                      What are 1st and 2nd places - home and school?

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                      #60

                      @greywolfauthor yes, or home and work for adults

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        if you want kids to "go outside" instead of being on their devices how about you work to restore 3rd spaces for them instead of trying to ban them from social media

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                        #61

                        @eniko both things are important. There shouldn't be a "instead" there, imo.

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