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torvalds is really speedrunning all the major “dickhead manager discovers the slopbot” points

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  • techokami@woof.techT techokami@woof.tech

    @aburka @hipsterelectron @workingclassgames @zzt honestly only the people from Intel truly know

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    #73

    @techokami @hipsterelectron @workingclassgames @zzt yeah someone would have to give out some intel

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    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

      and I am serious about this: if you want to predict what torvalds will say and do next, look at what AI boosters in power did months ago. he’s following the playbook to a T, and he’s digging up all the old justifications.

      that makes it rather easy to shout back, of course, but torvalds isn’t (currently) afraid of that. he believes himself to be immune to shame.

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      #74

      I think we could make an actual bingo card with these AI booster phrases.
      @zzt

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      • tael@yiff.lifeT tael@yiff.life

        @zzt he is absolutely going to take the kernel closed source. dude is seething https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117451818001188131

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        #75
        @tael @zzt I wish he did, because people would *have to* scramble to make alternatives instead of continuing to tolerate him.
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        • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

          @hipsterelectron @workingclassgames @techokami @zzt No way, Python was apparently developed for this OS first???

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          #76

          @theorangetheme @workingclassgames @techokami @zzt guido van rossum worked on it!!!

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          • synnfynn@social.shortcircuit.barS synnfynn@social.shortcircuit.bar

            @axel @zzt

            Altman did say:

            "We see a future where intelligence is a utility like electricity or water and people buy it from us on a meter and use it for whatever they want to use it for," he added"

            Source: https://archive.ph/Rh1tM

            It's why they've had books destroyed after scanning them for AI, with the intention of forcing us to depend on AI's regurgitated output when they originals can no longer be found.

            This is by design and goes beyond just AI vomit infecting open source. 🤬

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            #77

            @synnfynn @axel @zzt OK now that's getting a bit too paranoid. They aren't destroying the books to prevent us getting them. Most of them are too rare to have many copies out there. They're just grabbing anything

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            • ariaflame@masto.aiA ariaflame@masto.ai

              @synnfynn @axel @zzt OK now that's getting a bit too paranoid. They aren't destroying the books to prevent us getting them. Most of them are too rare to have many copies out there. They're just grabbing anything

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              #78

              @ariaflame @synnfynn @axel they’re doing more than just destroying rare books in their repeated attempts to be the only source remaining for the data they’ve consumed for training

              2026 is perhaps a poor year to accuse someone else of being a bit too paranoid

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              • synnfynn@social.shortcircuit.barS synnfynn@social.shortcircuit.bar

                @axel @zzt

                Altman did say:

                "We see a future where intelligence is a utility like electricity or water and people buy it from us on a meter and use it for whatever they want to use it for," he added"

                Source: https://archive.ph/Rh1tM

                It's why they've had books destroyed after scanning them for AI, with the intention of forcing us to depend on AI's regurgitated output when they originals can no longer be found.

                This is by design and goes beyond just AI vomit infecting open source. 🤬

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                #79

                @synnfynn @axel @zzt death is too good for some people ...

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                • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                  @ariaflame @synnfynn @axel they’re doing more than just destroying rare books in their repeated attempts to be the only source remaining for the data they’ve consumed for training

                  2026 is perhaps a poor year to accuse someone else of being a bit too paranoid

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                  #80

                  @zzt @synnfynn @axel Oh, you have evidence that they are destroying multiple copies of the same rare, and thus probably old and not terribly relevant to modern day books? Please, do provide.

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                  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                    why would I respond to repeated and personal betrayals by one of the most toxic men in tech with anger?

                    and yes, when our labor is stolen that’s a personal betrayal. it doesn’t matter if torvalds knows who I am. I frankly don’t give a shit if he does. what I need you to know is he’s a weak fuck pretending to be a genius.

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                    #81

                    @zzt never met your heroes is more true nowadays than ever before 🫠

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                    • axel@social.glitched.systemsA axel@social.glitched.systems

                      @zzt@mas.to

                      "when our labor is stolen that’s a personal betrayal"
                      I don't understand how more people don't see this. They're strip-mining the internet and selling it back to you via taps that they control. It's crazy to me that people are so quick to willingly surrender to what is clearly a new form of mass oppression that's taking root.

                      I'm already dealing with fresh college grads who can't arrive at solutions without prompting, it's extremely alarming every time I run into these people in classes.

                      Also, as an aside, the people who are okay with slopping code but don't like it when art is slopped are a whole other enigma to me. Like, do you just not value your work? Is that it?

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                      #82

                      @axel @zzt It's just a too!

                      No it's not. It is a fucking service that steals whatever you do to begin with.

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                      • ariaflame@masto.aiA ariaflame@masto.ai

                        @zzt @synnfynn @axel Oh, you have evidence that they are destroying multiple copies of the same rare, and thus probably old and not terribly relevant to modern day books? Please, do provide.

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                        #83

                        @ariaflame @synnfynn @axel yes we do! it’s extremely easy to find actually

                        but I notice you avoided the point of my post, and are now sounding like a fucking asshole who wants an internet debate on a Saturday

                        feel free to go find the news article yourself, you weird fucking dickhead

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                        • axel@social.glitched.systemsA axel@social.glitched.systems

                          @zzt@mas.to

                          "when our labor is stolen that’s a personal betrayal"
                          I don't understand how more people don't see this. They're strip-mining the internet and selling it back to you via taps that they control. It's crazy to me that people are so quick to willingly surrender to what is clearly a new form of mass oppression that's taking root.

                          I'm already dealing with fresh college grads who can't arrive at solutions without prompting, it's extremely alarming every time I run into these people in classes.

                          Also, as an aside, the people who are okay with slopping code but don't like it when art is slopped are a whole other enigma to me. Like, do you just not value your work? Is that it?

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                          #84

                          @axel @zzt
                          >> Like, do you just not value your work? Is that it?

                          I work with many people in the corporate structure and "not putting a value in their work" is exactly one of the reasons why they are fine with all this AI-bullshit.
                          They are just exchanging their time for money. Nothing more. No value creation happening.

                          And for some people the only time they started to create "value" is when they used LLM to make a lot of work that looks "professional". And this hooks them very bad.

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                          • duke_of_germany@mastodon.gamedev.placeD duke_of_germany@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            I think we could make an actual bingo card with these AI booster phrases.
                            @zzt

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                            #85

                            @duke_of_germany we really fucking should!

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                            • techokami@woof.techT techokami@woof.tech

                              @zzt dunno if you didn't see it but https://woof.tech/@techokami/117453095072801952 it is done

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                              #86

                              @techokami ooh thank you! I’ll take a look today!

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                              • muhanga@mastodon.socialM muhanga@mastodon.social

                                @axel @zzt
                                >> Like, do you just not value your work? Is that it?

                                I work with many people in the corporate structure and "not putting a value in their work" is exactly one of the reasons why they are fine with all this AI-bullshit.
                                They are just exchanging their time for money. Nothing more. No value creation happening.

                                And for some people the only time they started to create "value" is when they used LLM to make a lot of work that looks "professional". And this hooks them very bad.

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                                #87

                                @muhanga @axel @zzt this is an unfortunate truth that no one understands, but exists.

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