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  • nullagent@partyon.xyzN nullagent@partyon.xyz

    How the actual fuck is shit this bad being shipped???

    Corporate has completely lost the plot 🤣

    @GossiTheDog

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    #46

    @nullagent @GossiTheDog it happens the same way a lot of junk comes out of Google and Microsoft. From the outside they look like big monoliths, but on the inside you have a bunch of teams all desperately scrambling for recognition (see also "crabs in a bucket"). There’s a good chance that those teams are incentivized or measured on how fast and publicly they do things not on how well they do things.

    I can understand it even though I’m not in that world. If I’m a low to mid-level "contributor" in one of those companies and I’ve been there for a few years, the company performance has absolutely nothing to do with what I get paid - and these days any individual contribution that I may have been responsible for is going to be overshadowed by some executive's vibecoding because they want to put their stamp on it.

    Maybe I get a bonus at the department level if we ship. I can even use that as a talking point when I’m interviewing, because if I’ve been there for more than three years, I may be looking at jumping ship to another company. And if the product is crap, I can use that as part of my interviewing as well because obviously I left because the company insists on releasing vibe coded slop, and I’d like to go someplace where I can actually contribute.

    But perhaps I’m overly cynical.

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    • fencepost@infosec.exchangeF fencepost@infosec.exchange

      @nullagent @GossiTheDog it happens the same way a lot of junk comes out of Google and Microsoft. From the outside they look like big monoliths, but on the inside you have a bunch of teams all desperately scrambling for recognition (see also "crabs in a bucket"). There’s a good chance that those teams are incentivized or measured on how fast and publicly they do things not on how well they do things.

      I can understand it even though I’m not in that world. If I’m a low to mid-level "contributor" in one of those companies and I’ve been there for a few years, the company performance has absolutely nothing to do with what I get paid - and these days any individual contribution that I may have been responsible for is going to be overshadowed by some executive's vibecoding because they want to put their stamp on it.

      Maybe I get a bonus at the department level if we ship. I can even use that as a talking point when I’m interviewing, because if I’ve been there for more than three years, I may be looking at jumping ship to another company. And if the product is crap, I can use that as part of my interviewing as well because obviously I left because the company insists on releasing vibe coded slop, and I’d like to go someplace where I can actually contribute.

      But perhaps I’m overly cynical.

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      #47

      @nullagent @GossiTheDog by the way, have you heard about Microsoft's amazing new product, Copilot Shimmer?

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      • clayfoot@mastodon.socialC clayfoot@mastodon.social

        @GossiTheDog What was wrong with the old launcher? It still seems good to me.

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        #48

        @clayfoot @GossiTheDog

        The old launcher is really bad, it lags a LOT and for most gamers, having Fab and UE library and the store combined felt like bloat. Funnily for me, it is the games and library sections that lag and freeze. It is embarassing how terrible their launchers are.

        I haven't seen the new slop launcher, but the old one is hated by almost everyone. I might just move to Heroic rather than use new slop

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        • philpem@digipres.clubP philpem@digipres.club

          @GossiTheDog Great! More reasons not to give Epic my money.

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          #49

          @philpem @GossiTheDog We are not Luddites for wanting humans to create our diversions.

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            Orgs using vibe coded as a sales pitch, Lord.

            “Programming is hard,” Epic says in a blog post. “So, instead of doing that, we vibe coded a new Epic Games Launcher”

            💀

            https://www.theverge.com/games/1010751/epic-games-launcher-vibe-coded-ai-linux

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            #50

            @GossiTheDog I love that they're going on about how much faster it is than Steam when the loading speed was never the reason people weren't buying stuff from their shitty service.

            Steam could take five minutes to load and Epic could load in five seconds and I'm still not buying from Epic.

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              The new vibe coded Epic project is great

              10/10 slop

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              #51

              @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social I get that from time to time, because I've overloaded my system, and I think it's because X11 just can't keep up. But I'm not sure I can tell what you're using for your system (I've not enbiggened yet).

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                The new vibe coded Epic project is great

                10/10 slop

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                #52

                @GossiTheDog oh my god, it hurts from laughing so hard.

                if a company is going to slop it up and brag about it, at least make ii presentable. lmao fuck.

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  The new vibe coded Epic project is great

                  10/10 slop

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                  #53

                  @GossiTheDog haha. Knew it

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    The new vibe coded Epic project is great

                    10/10 slop

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                    #54

                    @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social #Sloptastic!
                    Such massive slop!
                    #Sloptacular!

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                    • kjv@mastodon.gamedev.placeK kjv@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      @clayfoot @GossiTheDog

                      The old launcher is really bad, it lags a LOT and for most gamers, having Fab and UE library and the store combined felt like bloat. Funnily for me, it is the games and library sections that lag and freeze. It is embarassing how terrible their launchers are.

                      I haven't seen the new slop launcher, but the old one is hated by almost everyone. I might just move to Heroic rather than use new slop

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                      #55

                      @kjv @clayfoot @GossiTheDog Epic have been surprisingly incompetent with the launcher, so it's not entirely surprising that they have tried just vibing another. It's so bad, that there was a chance vibe output would be superficially better.

                      Of course, not anything I'd let even near my payment info, but they aren't exactly known for thinking things through. It would affect their development velocity or some bullshit (even pre-AI).

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                      • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                        @GossiTheDog but hey, it starts up faster than steam

                        LMFAO.

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                        #56

                        @da_667 @GossiTheDog An entire day has passed, and Steam apparently released a startup performance fix.

                        It's still ridiculously long, though. (Steam's startup performance, that is—12 sec until my library is shown, I just measured)

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                        • fencepost@infosec.exchangeF fencepost@infosec.exchange

                          @nullagent @GossiTheDog it happens the same way a lot of junk comes out of Google and Microsoft. From the outside they look like big monoliths, but on the inside you have a bunch of teams all desperately scrambling for recognition (see also "crabs in a bucket"). There’s a good chance that those teams are incentivized or measured on how fast and publicly they do things not on how well they do things.

                          I can understand it even though I’m not in that world. If I’m a low to mid-level "contributor" in one of those companies and I’ve been there for a few years, the company performance has absolutely nothing to do with what I get paid - and these days any individual contribution that I may have been responsible for is going to be overshadowed by some executive's vibecoding because they want to put their stamp on it.

                          Maybe I get a bonus at the department level if we ship. I can even use that as a talking point when I’m interviewing, because if I’ve been there for more than three years, I may be looking at jumping ship to another company. And if the product is crap, I can use that as part of my interviewing as well because obviously I left because the company insists on releasing vibe coded slop, and I’d like to go someplace where I can actually contribute.

                          But perhaps I’m overly cynical.

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                          #57

                          @fencepost @GossiTheDog @nullagent that sounds pretty bang on

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            The new vibe coded Epic project is great

                            10/10 slop

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                            #58

                            @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social Epic fail

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                            • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                              @NosirrahSec @da_667 @GossiTheDog now come on, I think we all would ship our shit to *some* people.

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                              #59

                              @gsuberland @da_667 @GossiTheDog this is very true

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                              • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                                @GossiTheDog but hey, it starts up faster than steam

                                LMFAO.

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                                #60

                                @da_667 @GossiTheDog the absolute funniest part is that the steam client got an update two days ago that decreased startup time. Their claim wasn’t even true when they made it. store.steampowered.com/news/app/593110/view/710037059469839720

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  The new vibe coded Epic project is great

                                  10/10 slop

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                                  #61

                                  @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social

                                  Meanwhile Steam… still works.

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    The new vibe coded Epic project is great

                                    10/10 slop

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                                    #62

                                    @GossiTheDog Hey, but it's 0.06 seconds faster than Steam to restore from the task bar. Way to go!

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      The new vibe coded Epic project is great

                                      10/10 slop

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                                      #63

                                      BlueSky announcing their pivot to AI vibe code slop, not via BlueSky but X, was on my bingo card.

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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        BlueSky announcing their pivot to AI vibe code slop, not via BlueSky but X, was on my bingo card.

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                                        #64

                                        @GossiTheDog WHAT!?!!

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          BlueSky announcing their pivot to AI vibe code slop, not via BlueSky but X, was on my bingo card.

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                                          #65

                                          @GossiTheDog

                                          Yet more reasons to love Fedi!

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