Between my normal meetings and writing, I'm watching a few talks at the American Astronomical Society's (AAS) Division for Dynamical Astronomy (DDA) annual meeting this week.
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Raluca Rufu (SWRI) high angular momentum impact could well-mix Earth's mantle and the moon precursor, but then you have to get rid of excess angular momentum. Dumping that depends on internal thermal evolution of Earth, and its spin. Moon's outward migration speeds up after Earth cools enough to re-solidify, how long solidification takes depends on Earth's atmosphere post-collision.
Evection resonance doesn't seem to remove enough angular momentum.
Helena Buschermohle (Instituto Nacional de Pesquisas Espacias) what happens to moons around circumbinary planets? As planets migrate inwards, Hill sphere gets smaller and moons would become unbound. HAHA she calls stable moons "smoons" and a moon that becomes a planet a "ploonet"
All circumbinary exoplanets discovered so far are gas giants, but maybe moons could be habitable, now that we know some moons survive migration.
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As part of the CV-rejiggering for academic stuff that I previously complained about, I also need to update my academic website (which is embarrassingly simple, but at least I didn't write it in 1999 and it doesn't have a dancing-linux-penguin-gif like Some Other Academics). Will be trying to do that while listening to the next set of #DDA2026 talks
@sundogplanets Sounds to me like you need to add a dancing penguin
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Helena Buschermohle (Instituto Nacional de Pesquisas Espacias) what happens to moons around circumbinary planets? As planets migrate inwards, Hill sphere gets smaller and moons would become unbound. HAHA she calls stable moons "smoons" and a moon that becomes a planet a "ploonet"
All circumbinary exoplanets discovered so far are gas giants, but maybe moons could be habitable, now that we know some moons survive migration.
@sundogplanets Of course with the bizarre world definition of planet forced on us .. if those unbound moons just happen to end up in a clear space, they're planets, otherwise ..
️She's routed around the "planet" quagmire and created her own lovely words to describe this new situation, love it.
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@sundogplanets you definitely need the under construction sign with a spinning light and the dog running across the bottom. Oh and marquee text.
@fullywoolly @sundogplanets good web design <blink>never</blink> dies
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Helena Buschermohle (Instituto Nacional de Pesquisas Espacias) what happens to moons around circumbinary planets? As planets migrate inwards, Hill sphere gets smaller and moons would become unbound. HAHA she calls stable moons "smoons" and a moon that becomes a planet a "ploonet"
All circumbinary exoplanets discovered so far are gas giants, but maybe moons could be habitable, now that we know some moons survive migration.
@sundogplanets Love a ploonet
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Helena Buschermohle (Instituto Nacional de Pesquisas Espacias) what happens to moons around circumbinary planets? As planets migrate inwards, Hill sphere gets smaller and moons would become unbound. HAHA she calls stable moons "smoons" and a moon that becomes a planet a "ploonet"
All circumbinary exoplanets discovered so far are gas giants, but maybe moons could be habitable, now that we know some moons survive migration.
Now it's a prize talk by Sam Hadden (CITA) about resonant planetary systems, and he's PLAYING MUSIC to demonstrate orbits I love this so much (although I have to say it's not working super great over Zoom, sounds drown out the speaker, oh well). Mean-motion resonances function very much like chords! (This is very well explained in this fantastic website, read it all and enjoy: https://www.system-sounds.com/about/)
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Now it's a prize talk by Sam Hadden (CITA) about resonant planetary systems, and he's PLAYING MUSIC to demonstrate orbits I love this so much (although I have to say it's not working super great over Zoom, sounds drown out the speaker, oh well). Mean-motion resonances function very much like chords! (This is very well explained in this fantastic website, read it all and enjoy: https://www.system-sounds.com/about/)
Oooo he's got a bunch of orbital sonification on his website! https://shadden.github.io/sonification/
Oooo really neat to hear a chord change during an N-body simulation when stability is lost and a planet swaps to a different resonance.
Resonant chain migration behaves like masses on springs, says it's like vibrato! Cool.
"So that's a lot of fun, but so what?" Unstable modes grow or decay depending on how eccentricities are damped.
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As part of the CV-rejiggering for academic stuff that I previously complained about, I also need to update my academic website (which is embarrassingly simple, but at least I didn't write it in 1999 and it doesn't have a dancing-linux-penguin-gif like Some Other Academics). Will be trying to do that while listening to the next set of #DDA2026 talks
@sundogplanets Wait, why don't you have
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Now it's a prize talk by Sam Hadden (CITA) about resonant planetary systems, and he's PLAYING MUSIC to demonstrate orbits I love this so much (although I have to say it's not working super great over Zoom, sounds drown out the speaker, oh well). Mean-motion resonances function very much like chords! (This is very well explained in this fantastic website, read it all and enjoy: https://www.system-sounds.com/about/)
@sundogplanets Does this system work well with the system blind astronomer Wanda Díaz-Merced has developed (based on earlier work, apparently)?
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Oooo he's got a bunch of orbital sonification on his website! https://shadden.github.io/sonification/
Oooo really neat to hear a chord change during an N-body simulation when stability is lost and a planet swaps to a different resonance.
Resonant chain migration behaves like masses on springs, says it's like vibrato! Cool.
"So that's a lot of fun, but so what?" Unstable modes grow or decay depending on how eccentricities are damped.
@sundogplanets sadly does not seem the supercollider code is in a repo?
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Oooo he's got a bunch of orbital sonification on his website! https://shadden.github.io/sonification/
Oooo really neat to hear a chord change during an N-body simulation when stability is lost and a planet swaps to a different resonance.
Resonant chain migration behaves like masses on springs, says it's like vibrato! Cool.
"So that's a lot of fun, but so what?" Unstable modes grow or decay depending on how eccentricities are damped.
Most super earth systems are not resonant (they don't sound so nice), and lots are near-resonant and sound a little out of tune (some sound quite ominous!)
If you throw a few Plutos in to the system, scattering will disrupt the chain that formed, sometimes leaves them near but not quite in the resonance.
Ends with a note to Kepler (the astronomer) who thought the planets should be in perfect resonance, if not now, maybe when formed. Cool!
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@sundogplanets Does this system work well with the system blind astronomer Wanda Díaz-Merced has developed (based on earlier work, apparently)?
@ml Oh this is cool! This particular sonification just take orbital periods in simulations of exoplanet systems over time and turns them into sound frequencies, so not the same thing.
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Helena Buschermohle (Instituto Nacional de Pesquisas Espacias) what happens to moons around circumbinary planets? As planets migrate inwards, Hill sphere gets smaller and moons would become unbound. HAHA she calls stable moons "smoons" and a moon that becomes a planet a "ploonet"
All circumbinary exoplanets discovered so far are gas giants, but maybe moons could be habitable, now that we know some moons survive migration.
@sundogplanets Wow, I think I identify as circumbinary now.
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Most super earth systems are not resonant (they don't sound so nice), and lots are near-resonant and sound a little out of tune (some sound quite ominous!)
If you throw a few Plutos in to the system, scattering will disrupt the chain that formed, sometimes leaves them near but not quite in the resonance.
Ends with a note to Kepler (the astronomer) who thought the planets should be in perfect resonance, if not now, maybe when formed. Cool!
@sundogplanets respnance may be an objection for KAM theory (and therefore, the stability of the respective solar system), though
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Oooo he's got a bunch of orbital sonification on his website! https://shadden.github.io/sonification/
Oooo really neat to hear a chord change during an N-body simulation when stability is lost and a planet swaps to a different resonance.
Resonant chain migration behaves like masses on springs, says it's like vibrato! Cool.
"So that's a lot of fun, but so what?" Unstable modes grow or decay depending on how eccentricities are damped.
@sundogplanets this stuff is super fascinating.
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Most super earth systems are not resonant (they don't sound so nice), and lots are near-resonant and sound a little out of tune (some sound quite ominous!)
If you throw a few Plutos in to the system, scattering will disrupt the chain that formed, sometimes leaves them near but not quite in the resonance.
Ends with a note to Kepler (the astronomer) who thought the planets should be in perfect resonance, if not now, maybe when formed. Cool!
Leia Shen & Kavi Dey (Harvey Mudd College) current categorization looking for asteroid dynamical families takes ~30 minutes of computation per asteroid. Vera Rubin observatory will discover 10 million more asteroids. Using machine learning and computationally cheaper asteroid properties to find families. Code is available, but they only gave it as QR code not a link...sigh.
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Leia Shen & Kavi Dey (Harvey Mudd College) current categorization looking for asteroid dynamical families takes ~30 minutes of computation per asteroid. Vera Rubin observatory will discover 10 million more asteroids. Using machine learning and computationally cheaper asteroid properties to find families. Code is available, but they only gave it as QR code not a link...sigh.
David Minton (Purdue): Starts with really cool animation of Moon getting blasted by asteroids! Compares craters to dino footprints. Makes the point that better data (seeing smaller craters) changes the story dramatically
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David Minton (Purdue): Starts with really cool animation of Moon getting blasted by asteroids! Compares craters to dino footprints. Makes the point that better data (seeing smaller craters) changes the story dramatically
Ben Cassese (MPC): here comes the flood of Solar System small body data! Expect 200 million observations per year from Rubin, + 200 million from NEO Surveyor. MPC has to quickly link previous observations into new orbits, this is hard. Will need machine learning to process everything.
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Ben Cassese (MPC): here comes the flood of Solar System small body data! Expect 200 million observations per year from Rubin, + 200 million from NEO Surveyor. MPC has to quickly link previous observations into new orbits, this is hard. Will need machine learning to process everything.
@sundogplanets
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David Minton (Purdue): Starts with really cool animation of Moon getting blasted by asteroids! Compares craters to dino footprints. Makes the point that better data (seeing smaller craters) changes the story dramatically
@sundogplanets Thanks for today’s threads, it’s been really interesting.
