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  3. Between my normal meetings and writing, I'm watching a few talks at the American Astronomical Society's (AAS) Division for Dynamical Astronomy (DDA) annual meeting this week.

Between my normal meetings and writing, I'm watching a few talks at the American Astronomical Society's (AAS) Division for Dynamical Astronomy (DDA) annual meeting this week.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    Helena Buschermohle (Instituto Nacional de Pesquisas Espacias) what happens to moons around circumbinary planets? As planets migrate inwards, Hill sphere gets smaller and moons would become unbound. HAHA she calls stable moons "smoons" and a moon that becomes a planet a "ploonet"

    All circumbinary exoplanets discovered so far are gas giants, but maybe moons could be habitable, now that we know some moons survive migration.

    #DDA2026

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    #49

    Now it's a prize talk by Sam Hadden (CITA) about resonant planetary systems, and he's PLAYING MUSIC to demonstrate orbits I love this so much (although I have to say it's not working super great over Zoom, sounds drown out the speaker, oh well). Mean-motion resonances function very much like chords! (This is very well explained in this fantastic website, read it all and enjoy: https://www.system-sounds.com/about/)

    #DDA2026

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      Now it's a prize talk by Sam Hadden (CITA) about resonant planetary systems, and he's PLAYING MUSIC to demonstrate orbits I love this so much (although I have to say it's not working super great over Zoom, sounds drown out the speaker, oh well). Mean-motion resonances function very much like chords! (This is very well explained in this fantastic website, read it all and enjoy: https://www.system-sounds.com/about/)

      #DDA2026

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      #50

      Oooo he's got a bunch of orbital sonification on his website! https://shadden.github.io/sonification/

      Oooo really neat to hear a chord change during an N-body simulation when stability is lost and a planet swaps to a different resonance.

      Resonant chain migration behaves like masses on springs, says it's like vibrato! Cool.

      "So that's a lot of fun, but so what?" Unstable modes grow or decay depending on how eccentricities are damped.

      #DDA2026

      poetaster@mastodon.gamedev.placeP sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS stevenray@sfba.socialS inchulk@mastodon.greenI 4 Replies Last reply
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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        As part of the CV-rejiggering for academic stuff that I previously complained about, I also need to update my academic website (which is embarrassingly simple, but at least I didn't write it in 1999 and it doesn't have a dancing-linux-penguin-gif like Some Other Academics). Will be trying to do that while listening to the next set of #DDA2026 talks

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        #51

        @sundogplanets Wait, why don't you have ?

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          Now it's a prize talk by Sam Hadden (CITA) about resonant planetary systems, and he's PLAYING MUSIC to demonstrate orbits I love this so much (although I have to say it's not working super great over Zoom, sounds drown out the speaker, oh well). Mean-motion resonances function very much like chords! (This is very well explained in this fantastic website, read it all and enjoy: https://www.system-sounds.com/about/)

          #DDA2026

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          #52

          @sundogplanets Does this system work well with the system blind astronomer Wanda Díaz-Merced has developed (based on earlier work, apparently)?

          https://www.npr.org/2024/04/10/1243989360/astronomer-wanda-diaz-merced-didnt-watch-the-eclipse-she-listened

          #DisabledAndSTEM

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            Oooo he's got a bunch of orbital sonification on his website! https://shadden.github.io/sonification/

            Oooo really neat to hear a chord change during an N-body simulation when stability is lost and a planet swaps to a different resonance.

            Resonant chain migration behaves like masses on springs, says it's like vibrato! Cool.

            "So that's a lot of fun, but so what?" Unstable modes grow or decay depending on how eccentricities are damped.

            #DDA2026

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            #53

            @sundogplanets sadly does not seem the supercollider code is in a repo?

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              Oooo he's got a bunch of orbital sonification on his website! https://shadden.github.io/sonification/

              Oooo really neat to hear a chord change during an N-body simulation when stability is lost and a planet swaps to a different resonance.

              Resonant chain migration behaves like masses on springs, says it's like vibrato! Cool.

              "So that's a lot of fun, but so what?" Unstable modes grow or decay depending on how eccentricities are damped.

              #DDA2026

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              #54

              Most super earth systems are not resonant (they don't sound so nice), and lots are near-resonant and sound a little out of tune (some sound quite ominous!)

              If you throw a few Plutos in to the system, scattering will disrupt the chain that formed, sometimes leaves them near but not quite in the resonance.

              Ends with a note to Kepler (the astronomer) who thought the planets should be in perfect resonance, if not now, maybe when formed. Cool!

              #DDA2026

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              • ml@ecoevo.socialM ml@ecoevo.social

                @sundogplanets Does this system work well with the system blind astronomer Wanda Díaz-Merced has developed (based on earlier work, apparently)?

                https://www.npr.org/2024/04/10/1243989360/astronomer-wanda-diaz-merced-didnt-watch-the-eclipse-she-listened

                #DisabledAndSTEM

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                #55

                @ml Oh this is cool! This particular sonification just take orbital periods in simulations of exoplanet systems over time and turns them into sound frequencies, so not the same thing.

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  Helena Buschermohle (Instituto Nacional de Pesquisas Espacias) what happens to moons around circumbinary planets? As planets migrate inwards, Hill sphere gets smaller and moons would become unbound. HAHA she calls stable moons "smoons" and a moon that becomes a planet a "ploonet"

                  All circumbinary exoplanets discovered so far are gas giants, but maybe moons could be habitable, now that we know some moons survive migration.

                  #DDA2026

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                  #56

                  @sundogplanets Wow, I think I identify as circumbinary now.

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    Most super earth systems are not resonant (they don't sound so nice), and lots are near-resonant and sound a little out of tune (some sound quite ominous!)

                    If you throw a few Plutos in to the system, scattering will disrupt the chain that formed, sometimes leaves them near but not quite in the resonance.

                    Ends with a note to Kepler (the astronomer) who thought the planets should be in perfect resonance, if not now, maybe when formed. Cool!

                    #DDA2026

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                    #57

                    @sundogplanets respnance may be an objection for KAM theory (and therefore, the stability of the respective solar system), though

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      Oooo he's got a bunch of orbital sonification on his website! https://shadden.github.io/sonification/

                      Oooo really neat to hear a chord change during an N-body simulation when stability is lost and a planet swaps to a different resonance.

                      Resonant chain migration behaves like masses on springs, says it's like vibrato! Cool.

                      "So that's a lot of fun, but so what?" Unstable modes grow or decay depending on how eccentricities are damped.

                      #DDA2026

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                      #58

                      @sundogplanets this stuff is super fascinating.

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        Most super earth systems are not resonant (they don't sound so nice), and lots are near-resonant and sound a little out of tune (some sound quite ominous!)

                        If you throw a few Plutos in to the system, scattering will disrupt the chain that formed, sometimes leaves them near but not quite in the resonance.

                        Ends with a note to Kepler (the astronomer) who thought the planets should be in perfect resonance, if not now, maybe when formed. Cool!

                        #DDA2026

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                        #59

                        Leia Shen & Kavi Dey (Harvey Mudd College) current categorization looking for asteroid dynamical families takes ~30 minutes of computation per asteroid. Vera Rubin observatory will discover 10 million more asteroids. Using machine learning and computationally cheaper asteroid properties to find families. Code is available, but they only gave it as QR code not a link...sigh.

                        #DDA2026

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          Leia Shen & Kavi Dey (Harvey Mudd College) current categorization looking for asteroid dynamical families takes ~30 minutes of computation per asteroid. Vera Rubin observatory will discover 10 million more asteroids. Using machine learning and computationally cheaper asteroid properties to find families. Code is available, but they only gave it as QR code not a link...sigh.

                          #DDA2026

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                          #60

                          David Minton (Purdue): Starts with really cool animation of Moon getting blasted by asteroids! Compares craters to dino footprints. Makes the point that better data (seeing smaller craters) changes the story dramatically

                          #DDA2026

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            David Minton (Purdue): Starts with really cool animation of Moon getting blasted by asteroids! Compares craters to dino footprints. Makes the point that better data (seeing smaller craters) changes the story dramatically

                            #DDA2026

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                            #61

                            Ben Cassese (MPC): here comes the flood of Solar System small body data! Expect 200 million observations per year from Rubin, + 200 million from NEO Surveyor. MPC has to quickly link previous observations into new orbits, this is hard. Will need machine learning to process everything.

                            #DDA2026

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                              Ben Cassese (MPC): here comes the flood of Solar System small body data! Expect 200 million observations per year from Rubin, + 200 million from NEO Surveyor. MPC has to quickly link previous observations into new orbits, this is hard. Will need machine learning to process everything.

                              #DDA2026

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                              #62

                              @sundogplanets
                              Certainly something like the BOINC project.

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                David Minton (Purdue): Starts with really cool animation of Moon getting blasted by asteroids! Compares craters to dino footprints. Makes the point that better data (seeing smaller craters) changes the story dramatically

                                #DDA2026

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                                #63

                                @sundogplanets Thanks for today’s threads, it’s been really interesting.

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                                  Ben Cassese (MPC): here comes the flood of Solar System small body data! Expect 200 million observations per year from Rubin, + 200 million from NEO Surveyor. MPC has to quickly link previous observations into new orbits, this is hard. Will need machine learning to process everything.

                                  #DDA2026

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                                  #64

                                  Paul Wiegert (U. Western Ontario): finding interstellar meteors is really hard! Lots of meteors are from comets with high-eccentricity orbits, hard to get good enough data to measure meteor pre-impact orbits. There *are* interstellar meteors, just not as many as that Harvard astronomer (who the speaker did not name) seems to think, and none have been conclusively discovered yet.

                                  #DDA2026

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    Oooo he's got a bunch of orbital sonification on his website! https://shadden.github.io/sonification/

                                    Oooo really neat to hear a chord change during an N-body simulation when stability is lost and a planet swaps to a different resonance.

                                    Resonant chain migration behaves like masses on springs, says it's like vibrato! Cool.

                                    "So that's a lot of fun, but so what?" Unstable modes grow or decay depending on how eccentricities are damped.

                                    #DDA2026

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                                    #65

                                    @sundogplanets Really Cool!

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      Konstantin Batygin (Caltech): most common planets are super-Earths on very short orbits. How do they not fall into their star? How do they pick which resonance to lock in to? (Bonus points for joke about a system with a 6:7 resonance for everyone with middle-school-aged kids)

                                      Giant equation in a confetti explosion (this guy likes giving talks). Shows that 6:7 resonance requires planets to form simultaneously at 1-3AU: the "planet factory ring"

                                      #DDA2026

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                                      #66

                                      @sundogplanets
                                      Do we still have sampling issues? Is “most common planets are super-Earths on very short orbits” because those are easier to detect than super-Earths on longer orbits, or sub-Earths?

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                                        Leia Shen & Kavi Dey (Harvey Mudd College) current categorization looking for asteroid dynamical families takes ~30 minutes of computation per asteroid. Vera Rubin observatory will discover 10 million more asteroids. Using machine learning and computationally cheaper asteroid properties to find families. Code is available, but they only gave it as QR code not a link...sigh.

                                        #DDA2026

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                                        #67

                                        @sundogplanets

                                        Wait … Harcourt Fenton Mudd conned his way into owning … a *college*??

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          As part of the CV-rejiggering for academic stuff that I previously complained about, I also need to update my academic website (which is embarrassingly simple, but at least I didn't write it in 1999 and it doesn't have a dancing-linux-penguin-gif like Some Other Academics). Will be trying to do that while listening to the next set of #DDA2026 talks

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                                          #68

                                          @sundogplanets But surely it needs to be sprinkled with goat emoji! WIth a good boy looking after them 😀❤️

                                          🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐕

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