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  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

    "An 8K video is 10 times heavier and more polluting than an HD video. On your smartphone, you literally can't even see the difference. It's pointless waste."

    From '99th Day: A Warning About Technology' by Gerry McGovern

    #Enshittification
    #Books

    jeroenvanbergen@mstdn.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jeroenvanbergen@mstdn.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @CiaraNi At work, I make a lot of screenshots, highlight the part of interest and pass it on to someone else. The content is just an application running in a web browser. I would love to have a tool that would extract the content as formatted text, leaving the layout as it was.

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    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

      "An 8K video is 10 times heavier and more polluting than an HD video. On your smartphone, you literally can't even see the difference. It's pointless waste."

      From '99th Day: A Warning About Technology' by Gerry McGovern

      #Enshittification
      #Books

      hoare_spitall@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
      hoare_spitall@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
      hoare_spitall@mastodon.world
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #5

      @CiaraNi It's very much the same with audio files. I have a 40 yr old system which produces fully satisfactory results, and my response to family members who tell me I 'need' a newer system to get best results, I tell them I have no intention of spending large sums to get results that only my dog can hear.

      ciarani@mastodon.greenC katzenberger@tldr.nettime.orgK dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD 3 Replies Last reply
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      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

        "An 8K video is 10 times heavier and more polluting than an HD video. On your smartphone, you literally can't even see the difference. It's pointless waste."

        From '99th Day: A Warning About Technology' by Gerry McGovern

        #Enshittification
        #Books

        flatus@radikal.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
        flatus@radikal.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        @CiaraNi Maybe it’s not more pixels we need, but better stories. Resolution can’t rescue empty content.

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        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

          "An 8K video is 10 times heavier and more polluting than an HD video. On your smartphone, you literally can't even see the difference. It's pointless waste."

          From '99th Day: A Warning About Technology' by Gerry McGovern

          #Enshittification
          #Books

          raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @CiaraNi
          Even 4K needs you to be about 1.5m from a 72" screen to see much difference from upscaled HD.

          HD (1080p) with higher frame rate (say 96 fps) is more use than QHD or 4K, unless it's a screen the size of a wall.

          Even 1080p is a bit pointless on a smartphone.

          My phone was Android 8 and the local AnPost Banking killed the Web interface. The App needed Android 10 minimum. They claimed the App was more secure.
          An Android App isn't more secure. See fines against Google & Malware on phone.

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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

            "An 8K video is 10 times heavier and more polluting than an HD video. On your smartphone, you literally can't even see the difference. It's pointless waste."

            From '99th Day: A Warning About Technology' by Gerry McGovern

            #Enshittification
            #Books

            kbm0@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
            kbm0@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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            #8

            @CiaraNi TBH it's not just big tech. Everyone involved in technology gets bored with old things and wants to replace them with new ones. I see a lot of unnecessary churn in open source software and wonder what it is really for.

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            • jeroenvanbergen@mstdn.socialJ jeroenvanbergen@mstdn.social

              @CiaraNi At work, I make a lot of screenshots, highlight the part of interest and pass it on to someone else. The content is just an application running in a web browser. I would love to have a tool that would extract the content as formatted text, leaving the layout as it was.

              ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #9

              @jeroenvanbergen Interesting idea. I wonder if such a tool exists somewhere.

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              • hoare_spitall@mastodon.worldH hoare_spitall@mastodon.world

                @CiaraNi It's very much the same with audio files. I have a 40 yr old system which produces fully satisfactory results, and my response to family members who tell me I 'need' a newer system to get best results, I tell them I have no intention of spending large sums to get results that only my dog can hear.

                ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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                #10

                @hoare_spitall This resonates. I have anecdotally noticed that especially younger people tend to equate 'new' with 'better'. Whereas I find that new digital products are now worse. They will have been enshittified in at least some unturnoffable way. And any feature which does ostensibly improve something, like audio or video quality, will have improved it in some environmentally-unfriendly, human-useless marginal way. That only hawks can see and dogs hear, as you say.

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                • hoare_spitall@mastodon.worldH hoare_spitall@mastodon.world

                  @CiaraNi It's very much the same with audio files. I have a 40 yr old system which produces fully satisfactory results, and my response to family members who tell me I 'need' a newer system to get best results, I tell them I have no intention of spending large sums to get results that only my dog can hear.

                  katzenberger@tldr.nettime.orgK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #11

                  @hoare_spitall

                  Made my day: "results that only my dog can hear".

                  @CiaraNi

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                  • flatus@radikal.socialF flatus@radikal.social

                    @CiaraNi Maybe it’s not more pixels we need, but better stories. Resolution can’t rescue empty content.

                    ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #12

                    @Flatus Agreed. And even more so every day, with all the GAI content.

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                    • katzenberger@tldr.nettime.orgK katzenberger@tldr.nettime.org

                      @hoare_spitall

                      Made my day: "results that only my dog can hear".

                      @CiaraNi

                      ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #13

                      @katzenberger @hoare_spitall Mine too - it's perfectly put and perfectly pinpoints the problem.

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        @hoare_spitall This resonates. I have anecdotally noticed that especially younger people tend to equate 'new' with 'better'. Whereas I find that new digital products are now worse. They will have been enshittified in at least some unturnoffable way. And any feature which does ostensibly improve something, like audio or video quality, will have improved it in some environmentally-unfriendly, human-useless marginal way. That only hawks can see and dogs hear, as you say.

                        noodlejetski@masto.aiN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #14

                        @CiaraNi @hoare_spitall > This resonates

                        it's a sound system so it better

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                        • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                          @CiaraNi turning the ‘up slope’ of video into a cliff for us to fall off https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/112767616997017525

                          webhat@infosec.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #15

                          @CiaraNi @urlyman we soon won't have to worry about HTML, with the reactification of the web browsers will deprecate the HTML part. The parser is full of hacky code anyway, to support old poorly written HTML /s

                          I'm being sarcastic, and I've actually heard something similar

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                          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                            "An 8K video is 10 times heavier and more polluting than an HD video. On your smartphone, you literally can't even see the difference. It's pointless waste."

                            From '99th Day: A Warning About Technology' by Gerry McGovern

                            #Enshittification
                            #Books

                            timwardcam@c.imT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #16

                            @CiaraNi Eh? And there was me naively hoping that your client would negotiate with the server the appropriate resolution for your device and wouldn't download anything more than it could use.

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                            • webhat@infosec.exchangeW webhat@infosec.exchange

                              @CiaraNi @urlyman we soon won't have to worry about HTML, with the reactification of the web browsers will deprecate the HTML part. The parser is full of hacky code anyway, to support old poorly written HTML /s

                              I'm being sarcastic, and I've actually heard something similar

                              urlyman@mastodon.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #17

                              @webhat
                              quietly removing ‘rtext’ from Hypertext Markup Language? 😬

                              @CiaraNi

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                              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                "An 8K video is 10 times heavier and more polluting than an HD video. On your smartphone, you literally can't even see the difference. It's pointless waste."

                                From '99th Day: A Warning About Technology' by Gerry McGovern

                                #Enshittification
                                #Books

                                plantagolabs@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #18

                                @CiaraNi I watch my videos in 720p for that reason. I go to 1080p if the content really needs it. It is so simple of an act, there is no reason not to do it.

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                                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                  "An 8K video is 10 times heavier and more polluting than an HD video. On your smartphone, you literally can't even see the difference. It's pointless waste."

                                  From '99th Day: A Warning About Technology' by Gerry McGovern

                                  #Enshittification
                                  #Books

                                  zabow@mastodon.bida.imZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #19

                                  @CiaraNi

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                                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                    "An 8K video is 10 times heavier and more polluting than an HD video. On your smartphone, you literally can't even see the difference. It's pointless waste."

                                    From '99th Day: A Warning About Technology' by Gerry McGovern

                                    #Enshittification
                                    #Books

                                    dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #20

                                    @CiaraNi But I don't WATCH videos on my smartphone. Screen is too damn small!

                                    My old laptop and my workstation both have 4K displays, so I can see the difference between HD and 4K on them.

                                    Haven't bothered watching 8K videos since I figured I'd be getting a down-sized rendering of it. I think that's why the push a while back for 8K TVs went nowhere?

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                                    • hoare_spitall@mastodon.worldH hoare_spitall@mastodon.world

                                      @CiaraNi It's very much the same with audio files. I have a 40 yr old system which produces fully satisfactory results, and my response to family members who tell me I 'need' a newer system to get best results, I tell them I have no intention of spending large sums to get results that only my dog can hear.

                                      dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #21

                                      @hoare_spitall @CiaraNi I have a set of Panasonic headphones that lists frequency response from 16Hz-24KHz. My old ears frequency response drops off rapidly above 12KHz...so newer does me no good!

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                                      • kbm0@mastodon.socialK kbm0@mastodon.social

                                        @CiaraNi TBH it's not just big tech. Everyone involved in technology gets bored with old things and wants to replace them with new ones. I see a lot of unnecessary churn in open source software and wonder what it is really for.

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                                        #22

                                        @kbm0 Good point

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                                        • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

                                          @CiaraNi
                                          Even 4K needs you to be about 1.5m from a 72" screen to see much difference from upscaled HD.

                                          HD (1080p) with higher frame rate (say 96 fps) is more use than QHD or 4K, unless it's a screen the size of a wall.

                                          Even 1080p is a bit pointless on a smartphone.

                                          My phone was Android 8 and the local AnPost Banking killed the Web interface. The App needed Android 10 minimum. They claimed the App was more secure.
                                          An Android App isn't more secure. See fines against Google & Malware on phone.

                                          ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #23

                                          @raymaccarthy The constant app updates are truly dementing and almost always pointless in practice.

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