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@timpootle @DavidBridger @jbenjamint @CiaraNi @Wifiwits I have always been amused that the following sentence:
"I ate one scone at the Stone of Scone"
contains four occurrences of the letter sequence "one" that are often (in some accents, consistently) pronounced *completely differently*. It's not as bad as the situation with "ough", but it's pretty close.
@timpootle @DavidBridger @jbenjamint @CiaraNi @Wifiwits It gets worse. If you're willing to stretch things a bit,
"I am done eating one scone at the Stone of Scone"
could count as five, because "done" and "one" have the same vowel but the "o" in "one" includes a weird "w" sound at the beginning.
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@toothless @CiaraNi "Scone rhymes with cone" vs. "scone rhymes with gone" is the sort of thing that native English speakers have no trouble with, but anyone learning English as a second language is going to think "yeah, I know this is a totally effed-up language; you don't need to rub it in so openly, you know."
@dpnash @toothless Fair!
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@NudelnAlDente @psneeze Ignoring for a moment the distressing notion of a cheese scone of any pronunciation, I think I am going to spell scone sceoghan from now on.
@CiaraNi I am going to brainmark this for future me. @NudelnAlDente
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@timpootle @DavidBridger @jbenjamint @CiaraNi @Wifiwits It gets worse. If you're willing to stretch things a bit,
"I am done eating one scone at the Stone of Scone"
could count as five, because "done" and "one" have the same vowel but the "o" in "one" includes a weird "w" sound at the beginning.
@dpnash That is either much worse or much better, I can't quite decide
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@CiaraNi I am going to brainmark this for future me. @NudelnAlDente
@psneeze @NudelnAlDente First 'sceoghan', now 'brainmark'. My vocabulary is much enriched from this conversation.
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Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
@CiaraNi A few months ago, I was working at a bar back in my hometown, and got into a conversation with someone about being from around there (no one seems to believe I am in the area from how little accent I have, and everyone from outside of the area tells me "to run back to the mountains, hillbilly" from how strong my accent is lol). He asked my last name, I told him, and he proceeded to go into a detailed history why I must be an awful person, full of history I wasn't even aware of, as miniscule as my great-great-whatever sold his great-great-whatever a nag that keeled over three days after purchase. Absolutely refused to have me serve him after, wouldn't even speak to me, even asked if there was a way to tip without me getting a share. Word eventually got around and he stopped getting served as quickly and folks stopped chatting with him.
Everyone is gonna much prefer the person who is friendly and polite to the spite and anger from some know-it-all who hates you for coming from where you do.
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@psneeze That someone would be me, if they pronounced it Skon, not scone-rhymes-with-Eoghan
@CiaraNi Scottish Gaelic speaker here, very amused by the idea of someone pronouncing "scone" to rhyme with Scottish Gaelic pronunciation of Eòghan. "Would you like a skyoh-an with your tea?" #SkonForever
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i switched to cold after some nerve damage affected my swallowing. cold is easier for me. you can stick it in the microwave. great for traveling. brew and drink at room temperature. all the caffeine, none of the machinery. after a glass one smash on the floorboard, switched to plastic $15 https://a.co/d/0dWl5xy6
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@CiaraNi A few months ago, I was working at a bar back in my hometown, and got into a conversation with someone about being from around there (no one seems to believe I am in the area from how little accent I have, and everyone from outside of the area tells me "to run back to the mountains, hillbilly" from how strong my accent is lol). He asked my last name, I told him, and he proceeded to go into a detailed history why I must be an awful person, full of history I wasn't even aware of, as miniscule as my great-great-whatever sold his great-great-whatever a nag that keeled over three days after purchase. Absolutely refused to have me serve him after, wouldn't even speak to me, even asked if there was a way to tip without me getting a share. Word eventually got around and he stopped getting served as quickly and folks stopped chatting with him.
Everyone is gonna much prefer the person who is friendly and polite to the spite and anger from some know-it-all who hates you for coming from where you do.
@Thatonepersonwithaface Bizarre behaviour. People can be so strange and strangely hostile.
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@CiaraNi Scottish Gaelic speaker here, very amused by the idea of someone pronouncing "scone" to rhyme with Scottish Gaelic pronunciation of Eòghan. "Would you like a skyoh-an with your tea?" #SkonForever
@redthewizard Imagine it in a flat Dublin accent and it might work better.
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@Thatonepersonwithaface Bizarre behaviour. People can be so strange and strangely hostile.
@CiaraNi My explanation to myself has been that some folks are looking for boundaries in an increasingly vague world, that they're trying to separate themselves in a world where folks are becoming increasingly aware media lied to them, they aren't super special individuals, that there are folks who have the same habits and quirks they do.
My friend Hawk says I'm overthinking, some folks are just jerks haha.
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@NudelnAlDente @psneeze Ignoring for a moment the distressing notion of a cheese scone of any pronunciation, I think I am going to spell scone sceoghan from now on.
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@jeridansky It's not the most phonetic of names, admittedly. But not the least phonetic of names either, by Irish standards.
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@NudelnAlDente @psneeze I will keep that in mind next time I'm in Scotland
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@CiaraNi My explanation to myself has been that some folks are looking for boundaries in an increasingly vague world, that they're trying to separate themselves in a world where folks are becoming increasingly aware media lied to them, they aren't super special individuals, that there are folks who have the same habits and quirks they do.
My friend Hawk says I'm overthinking, some folks are just jerks haha.
@Thatonepersonwithaface @CiaraNi a lot of men are desperate to be unique and instead of being kind (which is coded as feminine) they choose to be insufferable know it alls
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@jbenjamint Doune. Skoon. Rhymes with loon.
@CiaraNi @jbenjamint @mdreid @Wifiwits @DavidBridger When I was a wee boy my dad told me we were going to Doune Castle*. I misheard it as Doom Castle and was very disappointed when he put me straight.
*They filmed some of Monty Python and the Holy Grail there.
PS. Scone is a Scots word and we say it skon, but if you guys want to sound silly that's absolutely fine
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Every time a newcomer posts an introduction and somebody tells them they shouldn’t have joined Mastodon.social and need to move to a different server, an angel loses their wings.
@CiaraNi what I like about this is you manage to tell people who are doing it wrong that they are doing it wrong by telling people that they are doing it wrong without doing it wrongly yourself. Hats off
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@Thatonepersonwithaface @CiaraNi a lot of men are desperate to be unique and instead of being kind (which is coded as feminine) they choose to be insufferable know it alls
@coolcalmcollected @CiaraNi Jokes on them, my friend Willie is known as a very kind, genial person, but we also both got moonshine drunk, started lifting cars off the ground, and he's considered cool for both.
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@CiaraNi @jbenjamint @mdreid @Wifiwits @DavidBridger When I was a wee boy my dad told me we were going to Doune Castle*. I misheard it as Doom Castle and was very disappointed when he put me straight.
*They filmed some of Monty Python and the Holy Grail there.
PS. Scone is a Scots word and we say it skon, but if you guys want to sound silly that's absolutely fine
@bodhipaksa Doom Castle - I would have been disappointed too.
"Scone is a Scots word and we say it skon, but if you guys want to sound silly that's absolutely fine" - oh no, that's a credible argument. I may have to revise my stance. Or just avoid it by switching to muffins from now on.
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@CiaraNi what I like about this is you manage to tell people who are doing it wrong that they are doing it wrong by telling people that they are doing it wrong without doing it wrongly yourself. Hats off
