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  3. I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

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  • anttipeltola@mastodon.worldA anttipeltola@mastodon.world

    I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

    Finnish universities 1996:

    "Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."

    Finnish universities 2026:

    "We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."

    Learned helplessness.

    #Linux #IRC #Finland #Suomi

    frederik@ohai.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #6

    @anttipeltola @ucas

    Here's a similar toot with some good takes on the situation (though not specifically aimed towards Finland):

    https://hsnl.social/@eloy/116003176888188762

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    • anttipeltola@mastodon.worldA anttipeltola@mastodon.world

      I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

      Finnish universities 1996:

      "Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."

      Finnish universities 2026:

      "We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."

      Learned helplessness.

      #Linux #IRC #Finland #Suomi

      nini@oldbytes.spaceN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #7

      @anttipeltola I'm guessing in the intervening 30 years the MBA set came in and stripped all that "thinking" nonsense because it wasn't profitable and you could outsource it for cheap. It's not only learned helplessness, it's decimating institutional knowledge because some beancounters thought it cost too much to maintain it, happens frequently with many social pillars that are hollowed out by capitalists.

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      • anttipeltola@mastodon.worldA anttipeltola@mastodon.world

        I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

        Finnish universities 1996:

        "Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."

        Finnish universities 2026:

        "We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."

        Learned helplessness.

        #Linux #IRC #Finland #Suomi

        kongakong@masto.aiK This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8

        @anttipeltola

        Creating a successful Facebook replacement has little to do with underlying technology or university education system. Success depends far more on access to deep, liquid capital markets and a large domestic market that can serve as a launching pad for international growth.

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        • anttipeltola@mastodon.worldA anttipeltola@mastodon.world

          I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

          Finnish universities 1996:

          "Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."

          Finnish universities 2026:

          "We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."

          Learned helplessness.

          #Linux #IRC #Finland #Suomi

          backfromthedud@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @anttipeltola sounds like complacency and laziness to me, but I am lazy and complacent.

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          • uint8_t@chaos.socialU uint8_t@chaos.social

            @funambolo @anttipeltola „it’s not that simple! if it was so simple then why would they charge so much money for it??“ 😒

            mellivora@im-in.spaceM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #10

            @uint8_t most of these services are overcharged for what you get and they are built on top of free labor. @funambolo @anttipeltola

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            • anttipeltola@mastodon.worldA anttipeltola@mastodon.world

              I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

              Finnish universities 1996:

              "Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."

              Finnish universities 2026:

              "We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."

              Learned helplessness.

              #Linux #IRC #Finland #Suomi

              geliga@mastodon.worldG This user is from outside of this forum
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              #11

              @anttipeltola come on Europe, I believe you can do that.

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              • mellivora@im-in.spaceM mellivora@im-in.space

                @uint8_t most of these services are overcharged for what you get and they are built on top of free labor. @funambolo @anttipeltola

                anttipeltola@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12

                @Mellivora @uint8_t @funambolo

                The age-old Silicon Valley trick of freeloading on others' free labour and making huge profits out of enshittification while calling themselves "innovators".

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                • funambolo@mastodon.worldF funambolo@mastodon.world

                  @anttipeltola exactly. It is also absurd how the public sector believes it is ok to pay hundreds of millions of euros to U.S. companies instead of probably spending a fraction of that money build their own solution based on existing open source code and open standard.

                  humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #13

                  @funambolo @anttipeltola in many cases totally illegally and in ignorance of EU privacy laws

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                  • anttipeltola@mastodon.worldA anttipeltola@mastodon.world

                    I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

                    Finnish universities 1996:

                    "Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."

                    Finnish universities 2026:

                    "We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."

                    Learned helplessness.

                    #Linux #IRC #Finland #Suomi

                    openfactory@peering.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #14

                    @anttipeltola not just Finland. I'd say most of europe?

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                    • anttipeltola@mastodon.worldA anttipeltola@mastodon.world

                      I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

                      Finnish universities 1996:

                      "Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."

                      Finnish universities 2026:

                      "We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."

                      Learned helplessness.

                      #Linux #IRC #Finland #Suomi

                      gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #15

                      @anttipeltola Learned helplessness = The boring end of authoritarianism. Submission.

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                      • anttipeltola@mastodon.worldA anttipeltola@mastodon.world

                        I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

                        Finnish universities 1996:

                        "Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."

                        Finnish universities 2026:

                        "We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."

                        Learned helplessness.

                        #Linux #IRC #Finland #Suomi

                        jeffalyanak@social.rights.ninjaJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #16

                        @anttipeltola

                        Unfortunately, this isn't really a technical problem, it's a policy problem.

                        Organizations certainly have the technical capabilities to replace these tools, but the network effect is hard to break unless you're compelled to do so.

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                        • kongakong@masto.aiK kongakong@masto.ai

                          @anttipeltola

                          Creating a successful Facebook replacement has little to do with underlying technology or university education system. Success depends far more on access to deep, liquid capital markets and a large domestic market that can serve as a launching pad for international growth.

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                          #17

                          @kongakong @anttipeltola The point is that institutions don't need a facebook replacement to be built. Personally I don't see why a simple website isn't enough, but people seem to be less and less able to even create those.

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