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  3. I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

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  • anttipeltola@mastodon.worldA anttipeltola@mastodon.world

    I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

    Finnish universities 1996:

    "Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."

    Finnish universities 2026:

    "We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."

    Learned helplessness.

    #Linux #IRC #Finland #Suomi

    kongakong@masto.aiK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #8

    @anttipeltola

    Creating a successful Facebook replacement has little to do with underlying technology or university education system. Success depends far more on access to deep, liquid capital markets and a large domestic market that can serve as a launching pad for international growth.

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    • anttipeltola@mastodon.worldA anttipeltola@mastodon.world

      I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

      Finnish universities 1996:

      "Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."

      Finnish universities 2026:

      "We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."

      Learned helplessness.

      #Linux #IRC #Finland #Suomi

      backfromthedud@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
      backfromthedud@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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      #9

      @anttipeltola sounds like complacency and laziness to me, but I am lazy and complacent.

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      • uint8_t@chaos.socialU uint8_t@chaos.social

        @funambolo @anttipeltola „it’s not that simple! if it was so simple then why would they charge so much money for it??“ 😒

        mellivora@im-in.spaceM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #10

        @uint8_t most of these services are overcharged for what you get and they are built on top of free labor. @funambolo @anttipeltola

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        • anttipeltola@mastodon.worldA anttipeltola@mastodon.world

          I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

          Finnish universities 1996:

          "Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."

          Finnish universities 2026:

          "We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."

          Learned helplessness.

          #Linux #IRC #Finland #Suomi

          geliga@mastodon.worldG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #11

          @anttipeltola come on Europe, I believe you can do that.

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          • mellivora@im-in.spaceM mellivora@im-in.space

            @uint8_t most of these services are overcharged for what you get and they are built on top of free labor. @funambolo @anttipeltola

            anttipeltola@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #12

            @Mellivora @uint8_t @funambolo

            The age-old Silicon Valley trick of freeloading on others' free labour and making huge profits out of enshittification while calling themselves "innovators".

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            • funambolo@mastodon.worldF funambolo@mastodon.world

              @anttipeltola exactly. It is also absurd how the public sector believes it is ok to pay hundreds of millions of euros to U.S. companies instead of probably spending a fraction of that money build their own solution based on existing open source code and open standard.

              humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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              #13

              @funambolo @anttipeltola in many cases totally illegally and in ignorance of EU privacy laws

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              • anttipeltola@mastodon.worldA anttipeltola@mastodon.world

                I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

                Finnish universities 1996:

                "Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."

                Finnish universities 2026:

                "We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."

                Learned helplessness.

                #Linux #IRC #Finland #Suomi

                openfactory@peering.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                #14

                @anttipeltola not just Finland. I'd say most of europe?

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                • anttipeltola@mastodon.worldA anttipeltola@mastodon.world

                  I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

                  Finnish universities 1996:

                  "Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."

                  Finnish universities 2026:

                  "We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."

                  Learned helplessness.

                  #Linux #IRC #Finland #Suomi

                  gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
                  gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #15

                  @anttipeltola Learned helplessness = The boring end of authoritarianism. Submission.

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                  • anttipeltola@mastodon.worldA anttipeltola@mastodon.world

                    I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.

                    Finnish universities 1996:

                    "Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."

                    Finnish universities 2026:

                    "We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."

                    Learned helplessness.

                    #Linux #IRC #Finland #Suomi

                    jeffalyanak@social.rights.ninjaJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #16

                    @anttipeltola

                    Unfortunately, this isn't really a technical problem, it's a policy problem.

                    Organizations certainly have the technical capabilities to replace these tools, but the network effect is hard to break unless you're compelled to do so.

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                    • kongakong@masto.aiK kongakong@masto.ai

                      @anttipeltola

                      Creating a successful Facebook replacement has little to do with underlying technology or university education system. Success depends far more on access to deep, liquid capital markets and a large domestic market that can serve as a launching pad for international growth.

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                      #17

                      @kongakong @anttipeltola The point is that institutions don't need a facebook replacement to be built. Personally I don't see why a simple website isn't enough, but people seem to be less and less able to even create those.

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