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  • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

    Have you seen this news?

    #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

    So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

    Im so excited about this.

    Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

    Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

    #E2EE

    https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/04/sovereign-tech-agency-funding/

    rickf@indieweb.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
    rickf@indieweb.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #7

    @benpate And meanwhile, services owned by megacorps (cough Meta) are yanking E2EE from their platforms.

    Fedi FTW!

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    • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

      Have you seen this news?

      #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

      So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

      Im so excited about this.

      Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

      Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

      #E2EE

      https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/04/sovereign-tech-agency-funding/

      earth_walker@mindly.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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      #8

      @benpate I'm wondering what the advantage of e2ee private messages on Mastodon is when we have Signal, Matrix and other robust encrypted messaging tools that you could invite a friend to if you want to have a private conversation.

      Is anyone worried about this creating moderation issues?

      Generally I'm in favor of privacy and security, but I'm just not sure what the value of this feature is on Mastodon. Maybe you or others can provide your perspective on this.

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      • earth_walker@mindly.socialE earth_walker@mindly.social

        @benpate I'm wondering what the advantage of e2ee private messages on Mastodon is when we have Signal, Matrix and other robust encrypted messaging tools that you could invite a friend to if you want to have a private conversation.

        Is anyone worried about this creating moderation issues?

        Generally I'm in favor of privacy and security, but I'm just not sure what the value of this feature is on Mastodon. Maybe you or others can provide your perspective on this.

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        #9

        @earth_walker @benpate

        It's not either-or. You can use both.

        If you prefer to switch apps and identities and go over to Signal, awesome.

        If you'd rather message someone with your ActivityPub identity, you can do that securely now, too.

        The E2EE work on ActivityPub uses an open standard, MLS, to encrypt data. One reason we chose it was so it's at least possible to bridge to other social and messaging networks while keeping the data encrypted from end to end.

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        • earth_walker@mindly.socialE earth_walker@mindly.social

          @benpate I'm wondering what the advantage of e2ee private messages on Mastodon is when we have Signal, Matrix and other robust encrypted messaging tools that you could invite a friend to if you want to have a private conversation.

          Is anyone worried about this creating moderation issues?

          Generally I'm in favor of privacy and security, but I'm just not sure what the value of this feature is on Mastodon. Maybe you or others can provide your perspective on this.

          benpate@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #10

          @earth_walker

          I don’t have all the answers, but I believe there’s a network effect at work.

          Signal is fantastic. I use it for lots of things. But it’s “yet another” place to go.

          But the Fediverse is my primary place to talk with people (like you)

          If you and I could have a truly private follow-on discussion without switching networks, it would be a win for the Fediverse.

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          • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

            Have you seen this news?

            #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

            So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

            Im so excited about this.

            Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

            Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

            #E2EE

            https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/04/sovereign-tech-agency-funding/

            violetmadder@kolektiva.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
            violetmadder@kolektiva.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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            #11

            @benpate

            NICE

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            • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

              Have you seen this news?

              #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

              So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

              Im so excited about this.

              Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

              Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

              #E2EE

              https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/04/sovereign-tech-agency-funding/

              zenheathen@beige.partyZ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #12

              @benpate Do you mean PMs to other users which are actually P?

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              • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                Have you seen this news?

                #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

                So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

                Im so excited about this.

                Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

                Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

                #E2EE

                https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/04/sovereign-tech-agency-funding/

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                manul70@mastodon.social
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                #13

                @benpate That's good, French gov will not be able to spy on us.

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                • zenheathen@beige.partyZ zenheathen@beige.party

                  @benpate Do you mean PMs to other users which are actually P?

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                  #14

                  @ZenHeathen Yes. A big ole' capital P.

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                  • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                    @ZenHeathen Yes. A big ole' capital P.

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                    #15

                    @benpate Awesome.🙂

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                    • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                      Have you seen this news?

                      #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

                      So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

                      Im so excited about this.

                      Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

                      Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

                      #E2EE

                      https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/04/sovereign-tech-agency-funding/

                      gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #16

                      @benpate I love when government agencies do what they’re supposed to do!!

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                      • M manul70@mastodon.social

                        @benpate That's good, French gov will not be able to spy on us.

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                        #17

                        @manul70 Yup! Though I'm less concerned with nation states. Nation-states are considered an "Advanced Persistent Threat" - and if they want into your devices, then god help you. Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/538/

                        But, this will be great for thwarting the next tier down: web scrapers, nosy admins, and corporate spies.

                        Anyone building #E2EE is a win for the Fediverse...

                        MASTODON building e2ee is a HUGE win for the Fediverse.

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                        • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                          Have you seen this news?

                          #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

                          So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

                          Im so excited about this.

                          Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

                          Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

                          #E2EE

                          https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/04/sovereign-tech-agency-funding/

                          retrohax@mastodon.gamedev.placeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #18

                          @benpate oh hey look its Peak being Added to Mastodon 😄

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                          • retrohax@mastodon.gamedev.placeR retrohax@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            @benpate oh hey look its Peak being Added to Mastodon 😄

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                            #19

                            @RetroHax I'm not familiar with Peak, but yeah, there are a ton of encrypted messengers out there. I'm also on Signal and Matrix, each for different purposes.

                            The good news about this is that it brings this feature to the network we're already using. No change in behavior.. one day, your messages just become a little more private.

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                            • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                              @RetroHax I'm not familiar with Peak, but yeah, there are a ton of encrypted messengers out there. I'm also on Signal and Matrix, each for different purposes.

                              The good news about this is that it brings this feature to the network we're already using. No change in behavior.. one day, your messages just become a little more private.

                              retrohax@mastodon.gamedev.placeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #20

                              @benpate XD I meant it more so as a Word of Describing STuff and not the Video Game 😛
                              Like using Peak as another Word for saying "Cool Feature" or so 😛

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                              • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                                Have you seen this news?

                                #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

                                So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

                                Im so excited about this.

                                Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

                                Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

                                #E2EE

                                https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/04/sovereign-tech-agency-funding/

                                benpate@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #21

                                Whenever they write the Wikipedia article about E2EE, I just want a footnote in there...

                                #Mastodon was the artillery, the big guns that made the difference. #Bonfire and #Emissary were the special forces recon teams that made it possible.

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                                • retrohax@mastodon.gamedev.placeR retrohax@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  @benpate XD I meant it more so as a Word of Describing STuff and not the Video Game 😛
                                  Like using Peak as another Word for saying "Cool Feature" or so 😛

                                  benpate@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #22

                                  @RetroHax

                                  Well that explains why my google searches looked so weird.

                                  Yes, I'm old. You kids with your funny words... 😅

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                                  • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                                    Whenever they write the Wikipedia article about E2EE, I just want a footnote in there...

                                    #Mastodon was the artillery, the big guns that made the difference. #Bonfire and #Emissary were the special forces recon teams that made it possible.

                                    jens@social.finkhaeuser.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #23

                                    @benpate e2ee on fedi?

                                    Uh.

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                                    • jens@social.finkhaeuser.deJ jens@social.finkhaeuser.de

                                      @benpate e2ee on fedi?

                                      Uh.

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                                      #24

                                      @jens

                                      Yes. We're launching in June. Mastodon is building in 2027.

                                      It's a whole new Fedi.

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                                      • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                                        @jens

                                        Yes. We're launching in June. Mastodon is building in 2027.

                                        It's a whole new Fedi.

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                                        #25

                                        @benpate Specs?

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                                        • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                                          Have you seen this news?

                                          #Mastodon just got funding to add end to end encryption into their software.

                                          So, some time next year, you’ll be able to send truly private messages to the vast majority of the #Fediverse

                                          Im so excited about this.

                                          Because it’s an open spec, this opens the doors for every Fediverse app to join the party.

                                          Yesterday, this project was a proof of concept. Today, Mastodon has turned it into a stampede.

                                          #E2EE

                                          https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/04/sovereign-tech-agency-funding/

                                          moonshinebrigade@musicworld.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #26

                                          @benpate that's great news! 😃

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