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  3. The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it.

The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it.

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  • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

    @tael
    I hope they get paid at least some stipend

    tael@yiff.lifeT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #23

    @jonny Hahahahaha

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    • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

      RE: https://yiff.life/@tael/117033238015042955

      The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it. This is the true endpoint of all this: spending thousands to make nothing for nobody.

      davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #24

      @jonny fuck me. literally? that's *all* the players??

      iain@kolektiva.socialI huronbikes@cyberplace.socialH donaldball@triangletoot.partyD womble@infosec.exchangeW 4 Replies Last reply
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      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

        @jonny fuck me. literally? that's *all* the players??

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        #25

        @davidgerard @jonny but some of them are whales, David, whales!

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        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

          @jonny fuck me. literally? that's *all* the players??

          huronbikes@cyberplace.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #26

          @davidgerard @jonny it's going to be a billion dollar business.

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          • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

            Found it: every LLM breakthrough story reads like this old erowid story of someone who was addicted to taking LSD with nitrous oxide because the feeling that induced for them was that they were discovering the secrets of the universe:

            (C/w in the story for self harm and everything else you'd expect in an erowid story)
            https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=79725

            the more I explored the Nitrous reality the more sense it made - of everything. I was starting to feel that I understood the intrinsic nature of the universe ...

            I devoted my life to this 'faith' of mine - and my quest was to bring back some of these truths, and to find a way to share them with others - which I did in fact accomplish. I have kind of built an environment that almost guarantees arriving at this place. There is technology involved - it's all very complicated.

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            #27

            @jonny like this right?

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            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

              @jonny fuck me. literally? that's *all* the players??

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              #28

              @davidgerard @jonny @zzt Bet there’s a DikuMUD server still running from 1996 that has twice that many active users right now.

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              • huronbikes@cyberplace.socialH huronbikes@cyberplace.social

                @davidgerard @jonny it's going to be a billion dollar business.

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                #29

                @huronbikes @jonny *billion token

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                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                  @huronbikes @jonny *billion token

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                  #30

                  @davidgerard @jonny I was looking for the quote and I did find where he admitted burning billions of tokens. I then realized that he referred to "Sam Altman's solo unicorn contest" and further realized that "solo unicorn contest" sounds a lot like a euphemism.

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                  • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                    RE: https://yiff.life/@tael/117033238015042955

                    The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it. This is the true endpoint of all this: spending thousands to make nothing for nobody.

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                    #31

                    @jonny What to me is doubly funny is that long ago Level 9 released a single player game on Amiga/Atari ST/etc called Knight Orc set in a MUD. It's got no modern AI, runs entirely on the machine and fakes a whole MUD player set more convincingly than this.

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                    • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                      RE: https://yiff.life/@tael/117033238015042955

                      The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it. This is the true endpoint of all this: spending thousands to make nothing for nobody.

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                      #32

                      @jonny ahahaha

                      > massively multiplayer

                      same number of players as Bomberman on the Sega Saturn

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                      • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                        Found it: every LLM breakthrough story reads like this old erowid story of someone who was addicted to taking LSD with nitrous oxide because the feeling that induced for them was that they were discovering the secrets of the universe:

                        (C/w in the story for self harm and everything else you'd expect in an erowid story)
                        https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=79725

                        the more I explored the Nitrous reality the more sense it made - of everything. I was starting to feel that I understood the intrinsic nature of the universe ...

                        I devoted my life to this 'faith' of mine - and my quest was to bring back some of these truths, and to find a way to share them with others - which I did in fact accomplish. I have kind of built an environment that almost guarantees arriving at this place. There is technology involved - it's all very complicated.

                        bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #33

                        @jonny If I ever believe I have unlocked the secrets of reality, I hope I will give my technique a better name than "Gascid". If I name my instrument of cosmic revelation "Gascid", just fuckin' tase me or something

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                        • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                          Found it: every LLM breakthrough story reads like this old erowid story of someone who was addicted to taking LSD with nitrous oxide because the feeling that induced for them was that they were discovering the secrets of the universe:

                          (C/w in the story for self harm and everything else you'd expect in an erowid story)
                          https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=79725

                          the more I explored the Nitrous reality the more sense it made - of everything. I was starting to feel that I understood the intrinsic nature of the universe ...

                          I devoted my life to this 'faith' of mine - and my quest was to bring back some of these truths, and to find a way to share them with others - which I did in fact accomplish. I have kind of built an environment that almost guarantees arriving at this place. There is technology involved - it's all very complicated.

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                          #34

                          @jonny there was this time in college I tried doing differential equations homework after smoking weed and thinking I was so smart, and then reading through it sober that was an important lession.

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                          • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                            RE: https://yiff.life/@tael/117033238015042955

                            The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it. This is the true endpoint of all this: spending thousands to make nothing for nobody.

                            m_correa_m@fediscience.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #35

                            @jonny This is an extreme example but there's quite a bit of "look! I built (actually an ungodly amount of tokens) a cheap-looking knock-off of Animal Crossing / Diablo / something else that already exists (that nobody will ever play)" when you look at these spaces.

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                            • m_correa_m@fediscience.orgM m_correa_m@fediscience.org

                              @jonny This is an extreme example but there's quite a bit of "look! I built (actually an ungodly amount of tokens) a cheap-looking knock-off of Animal Crossing / Diablo / something else that already exists (that nobody will ever play)" when you look at these spaces.

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                              #36

                              @m_correa_m i've played so many of these games, and they do what LLMs do, imitate the form of a game without really getting at any of what makes games "fun"

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                              • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                                @m_correa_m i've played so many of these games, and they do what LLMs do, imitate the form of a game without really getting at any of what makes games "fun"

                                m_correa_m@fediscience.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #37

                                @jonny Thank you for your service, but why do you do this to yourself

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                                • m_correa_m@fediscience.orgM m_correa_m@fediscience.org

                                  @jonny Thank you for your service, but why do you do this to yourself

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                                  #38

                                  @m_correa_m
                                  tragically fascinated by scams

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                                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                    @jonny fuck me. literally? that's *all* the players??

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                                    #39

                                    @davidgerard @jonny I cannot for the life of me decide whether it's better or worse that he's doing his bit to burn all anthropic's cash for literally nobody.

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                                    • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                                      Found it: every LLM breakthrough story reads like this old erowid story of someone who was addicted to taking LSD with nitrous oxide because the feeling that induced for them was that they were discovering the secrets of the universe:

                                      (C/w in the story for self harm and everything else you'd expect in an erowid story)
                                      https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=79725

                                      the more I explored the Nitrous reality the more sense it made - of everything. I was starting to feel that I understood the intrinsic nature of the universe ...

                                      I devoted my life to this 'faith' of mine - and my quest was to bring back some of these truths, and to find a way to share them with others - which I did in fact accomplish. I have kind of built an environment that almost guarantees arriving at this place. There is technology involved - it's all very complicated.

                                      jonny@neuromatch.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #40

                                      i am sort of stuck on this. you have to remember whenever these totally off the planet AI guys describe their workflow to stop and do the math for what that would mean in a normal person's life. so with 12+1 $200/month claude subscriptions and the one $200/month chatGPT subscription, that's $2,800 a month. He says that's the equivalent of $87,000 a month of token usage.

                                      $2,800/month is more than my rent and utilities, and $87,000 is more than i make in a year. This guys addiction costs more than my annual salary per month for nothing. this is the future of software development where you have to be ridiculously rich to play - where he is also actively pulling the ladder up and saying "don't develop shared libraries" - no more "if you have a laptop and a keyboard you can program," not even a fig leaf to "AI enables nonprogrammers to program."

                                      the vision of the future of programming that's being presented here is literally just "if you have more money than 99.9999% of people on this earth, then you can totally lose your mind"

                                      jonny@neuromatch.socialJ lunemercove@eldritch.cafeL st3fan@mastodon.socialS vaporeon_@glaceon.socialV realn2s@infosec.exchangeR 7 Replies Last reply
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                                      • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                                        i am sort of stuck on this. you have to remember whenever these totally off the planet AI guys describe their workflow to stop and do the math for what that would mean in a normal person's life. so with 12+1 $200/month claude subscriptions and the one $200/month chatGPT subscription, that's $2,800 a month. He says that's the equivalent of $87,000 a month of token usage.

                                        $2,800/month is more than my rent and utilities, and $87,000 is more than i make in a year. This guys addiction costs more than my annual salary per month for nothing. this is the future of software development where you have to be ridiculously rich to play - where he is also actively pulling the ladder up and saying "don't develop shared libraries" - no more "if you have a laptop and a keyboard you can program," not even a fig leaf to "AI enables nonprogrammers to program."

                                        the vision of the future of programming that's being presented here is literally just "if you have more money than 99.9999% of people on this earth, then you can totally lose your mind"

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                                        #41

                                        you know how much programming costs me now? ZERO DOLLARS AND ZERO CENTS.

                                        kevinashworth@mastodon.socialK wohali@timeloop.cafeW gary_alderson@infosec.exchangeG wronglang@bayes.clubW jonny@neuromatch.socialJ 8 Replies Last reply
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                                        • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                                          you know how much programming costs me now? ZERO DOLLARS AND ZERO CENTS.

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                                          #42

                                          @jonny
                                          Plus token prices need to 10x for the AI companies to become profitable.

                                          Your prices are gonna 10x, too!

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