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  3. The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it.

The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it.

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  • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

    Found it: every LLM breakthrough story reads like this old erowid story of someone who was addicted to taking LSD with nitrous oxide because the feeling that induced for them was that they were discovering the secrets of the universe:

    (C/w in the story for self harm and everything else you'd expect in an erowid story)
    https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=79725

    the more I explored the Nitrous reality the more sense it made - of everything. I was starting to feel that I understood the intrinsic nature of the universe ...

    I devoted my life to this 'faith' of mine - and my quest was to bring back some of these truths, and to find a way to share them with others - which I did in fact accomplish. I have kind of built an environment that almost guarantees arriving at this place. There is technology involved - it's all very complicated.

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    #15

    @jonny the difference being the drugs actually work 😉

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    • eestileib@tech.lgbtE eestileib@tech.lgbt

      @jonny

      I'm into the "worried about his family" stage with Yegge.

      He's used "addiction" in the past to characterize his relationship with chatbots, and described then as "energy vampires".

      In this article he explains that he's hiding his usage from his wife, and that while the setup with a bunch of Google For Domains sock puppets would probably be a ToS violation for other people, it isn't for him because [🤷🏻‍♀️].

      Just casually calling out several diagnostic criteria for addictive behavior right at the start of his grandiose rambling essay full of esoteric terminology, as you do when you're definitely not in a manic state.

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      #16

      @eestileib
      Yeah, jinx, i knew I had recognized that kind of addicted rambling tone from another internet venue...

      https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/117038811678149256

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      • lazarou@mastodon.socialL lazarou@mastodon.social

        @jonny the difference being the drugs actually work 😉

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        #17

        @Lazarou @jonny and don’t destroy the planet while stealing everything

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        • lazarou@mastodon.socialL lazarou@mastodon.social

          @jonny the difference being the drugs actually work 😉

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          #18

          @Lazarou
          I would say that when I have let myself truly sink into an LLM that the drug effect of it certainly "works" - it certainly induces a profound sense of accomplishment and getting things done. I have tread delicately but I 100% understand how easy it is to generate a feeling of constant rapid progress when you just let go

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          • iain@kolektiva.socialI iain@kolektiva.social

            @Lazarou @jonny and don’t destroy the planet while stealing everything

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            #19

            @iain @jonny I've always said a lot of the World's problems can be solved with the right drugs! They threw me out of the UN for it, but I stand by it! 😉

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            • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

              Its always good when the 5 people who have invested significant proportions of their lives in your game are baffled and laughing at how broken everything is and need to constantly ask for a mods help to keep playing the game, the mod also being either confused or just an LLM itself

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              #20

              @jonny I can confirm Dyana is a human, probably the most senior volunteer GM from what research I've done

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              • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                @Lazarou
                I would say that when I have let myself truly sink into an LLM that the drug effect of it certainly "works" - it certainly induces a profound sense of accomplishment and getting things done. I have tread delicately but I 100% understand how easy it is to generate a feeling of constant rapid progress when you just let go

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                #21

                @jonny I've heard LLM use to be likened to using Cocaine, and I can really see that.

                My one experience with coke was "well this is great but superficial and now my heart is beating a lot"

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                • tael@yiff.lifeT tael@yiff.life

                  @jonny I can confirm Dyana is a human, probably the most senior volunteer GM from what research I've done

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                  #22

                  @tael
                  I hope they get paid at least some stipend

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                  • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                    @tael
                    I hope they get paid at least some stipend

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                    #23

                    @jonny Hahahahaha

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                    • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                      RE: https://yiff.life/@tael/117033238015042955

                      The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it. This is the true endpoint of all this: spending thousands to make nothing for nobody.

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                      #24

                      @jonny fuck me. literally? that's *all* the players??

                      iain@kolektiva.socialI huronbikes@cyberplace.socialH donaldball@triangletoot.partyD womble@infosec.exchangeW 4 Replies Last reply
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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        @jonny fuck me. literally? that's *all* the players??

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                        #25

                        @davidgerard @jonny but some of them are whales, David, whales!

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                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                          @jonny fuck me. literally? that's *all* the players??

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                          #26

                          @davidgerard @jonny it's going to be a billion dollar business.

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                          • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                            Found it: every LLM breakthrough story reads like this old erowid story of someone who was addicted to taking LSD with nitrous oxide because the feeling that induced for them was that they were discovering the secrets of the universe:

                            (C/w in the story for self harm and everything else you'd expect in an erowid story)
                            https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=79725

                            the more I explored the Nitrous reality the more sense it made - of everything. I was starting to feel that I understood the intrinsic nature of the universe ...

                            I devoted my life to this 'faith' of mine - and my quest was to bring back some of these truths, and to find a way to share them with others - which I did in fact accomplish. I have kind of built an environment that almost guarantees arriving at this place. There is technology involved - it's all very complicated.

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                            #27

                            @jonny like this right?

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                            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                              @jonny fuck me. literally? that's *all* the players??

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                              #28

                              @davidgerard @jonny @zzt Bet there’s a DikuMUD server still running from 1996 that has twice that many active users right now.

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                              • huronbikes@cyberplace.socialH huronbikes@cyberplace.social

                                @davidgerard @jonny it's going to be a billion dollar business.

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                                #29

                                @huronbikes @jonny *billion token

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                                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                  @huronbikes @jonny *billion token

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                                  #30

                                  @davidgerard @jonny I was looking for the quote and I did find where he admitted burning billions of tokens. I then realized that he referred to "Sam Altman's solo unicorn contest" and further realized that "solo unicorn contest" sounds a lot like a euphemism.

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                                  • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                                    RE: https://yiff.life/@tael/117033238015042955

                                    The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it. This is the true endpoint of all this: spending thousands to make nothing for nobody.

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                                    #31

                                    @jonny What to me is doubly funny is that long ago Level 9 released a single player game on Amiga/Atari ST/etc called Knight Orc set in a MUD. It's got no modern AI, runs entirely on the machine and fakes a whole MUD player set more convincingly than this.

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                                    • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                                      RE: https://yiff.life/@tael/117033238015042955

                                      The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it. This is the true endpoint of all this: spending thousands to make nothing for nobody.

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                                      #32

                                      @jonny ahahaha

                                      > massively multiplayer

                                      same number of players as Bomberman on the Sega Saturn

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                                      • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                                        Found it: every LLM breakthrough story reads like this old erowid story of someone who was addicted to taking LSD with nitrous oxide because the feeling that induced for them was that they were discovering the secrets of the universe:

                                        (C/w in the story for self harm and everything else you'd expect in an erowid story)
                                        https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=79725

                                        the more I explored the Nitrous reality the more sense it made - of everything. I was starting to feel that I understood the intrinsic nature of the universe ...

                                        I devoted my life to this 'faith' of mine - and my quest was to bring back some of these truths, and to find a way to share them with others - which I did in fact accomplish. I have kind of built an environment that almost guarantees arriving at this place. There is technology involved - it's all very complicated.

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                                        #33

                                        @jonny If I ever believe I have unlocked the secrets of reality, I hope I will give my technique a better name than "Gascid". If I name my instrument of cosmic revelation "Gascid", just fuckin' tase me or something

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                                        • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                                          Found it: every LLM breakthrough story reads like this old erowid story of someone who was addicted to taking LSD with nitrous oxide because the feeling that induced for them was that they were discovering the secrets of the universe:

                                          (C/w in the story for self harm and everything else you'd expect in an erowid story)
                                          https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=79725

                                          the more I explored the Nitrous reality the more sense it made - of everything. I was starting to feel that I understood the intrinsic nature of the universe ...

                                          I devoted my life to this 'faith' of mine - and my quest was to bring back some of these truths, and to find a way to share them with others - which I did in fact accomplish. I have kind of built an environment that almost guarantees arriving at this place. There is technology involved - it's all very complicated.

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                                          #34

                                          @jonny there was this time in college I tried doing differential equations homework after smoking weed and thinking I was so smart, and then reading through it sober that was an important lession.

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