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  • pwassonchat@eldritch.cafeP pwassonchat@eldritch.cafe

    @malte I agree. It's because the West currently hates Muslims/Arabs more than it hates Jews. (Which does NOT mean that antisemitism is resolved or gone - it's definitely still here.)

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    @pwassonchat @malte I abhor Zionism but I do not hate Jews. I grew up in a family where there was no prejudice. My granny worked for a Jewish family as a live in Housekeeper when she first came to New Zealand. She was married from their home. The Granny paid for her wedding gown. My mums first serious boyfriend was Jewish. There was still photos of him in family albums. However I will never understand the effect of Zionism in Israel and the genocide in Gaza.

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    • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

      Greta Thunberg continues to be one of the most mature voices in mainstream media. After having arrived in Paris, a journalist asks her what she has to say about the American tyrant's comment that "She's an angry woman that needs anger management". Thunberg's answer is short and sweet: "Well, I think the world needs a lot more angry women, especially with everything going on right now."

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      @malte Though she's still not at the anger-level of throwing hamburgers at the wall.

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      • hyenachow@mstdn.socialH hyenachow@mstdn.social

        @malte Though she's still not at the anger-level of throwing hamburgers at the wall.

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        @hyenachow As I say, the way she uses her anger is actually at a much more intense level than someone who would prematurely release the aggressive energy in a short burst of outrage like throwing things at the wall. Her anger is focused and sustained. And continually put to use. The most intense anger is calm, not loud. https://radikal.social/@malte/114660261178848339

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        • carolynstirling@mastodon.nzC carolynstirling@mastodon.nz

          @pwassonchat @malte I abhor Zionism but I do not hate Jews. I grew up in a family where there was no prejudice. My granny worked for a Jewish family as a live in Housekeeper when she first came to New Zealand. She was married from their home. The Granny paid for her wedding gown. My mums first serious boyfriend was Jewish. There was still photos of him in family albums. However I will never understand the effect of Zionism in Israel and the genocide in Gaza.

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          @CarolynStirling I join you in abhoring zionism. At least the colonial version (one can argue that there could be versions of zionism that are not built on exclusion, but co-existence). I think it is upon us all to in fact understand as best as we can the effect of Israeli zionism and the genocide. To stop it, we need to also see the genocidal logic in our own ways. As difficult it is to accept, the perpetrators work in all too human ways as well. Nothing inevitable about it! @pwassonchat

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          • joscelyntransient@chaosfem.twJ joscelyntransient@chaosfem.tw

            @malte it has been amazing to watch her grow up from afar. So many young voices get co-opted or lose steam and disappear, but she has kept going and has genuinely inspired me with how much more authentically radical she’s been in her actions than I’ve often had the guts to do. And even lifted up the voices of those often ignored when she realized how hers was being misused

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            @JoscelynTransient Well put. Perhaps that's the most inspiring part. Thunberg has managed to not get domesticated or destroyed by the media machine after having been put on a pedestal by them.

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            • the5thcolumnist@mstdn.caT the5thcolumnist@mstdn.ca

              @malte

              No doubt a future Raging Granny in the making.

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              @the5thColumnist I don't think. My point is that she uses us another way of using our anger that is more focused than raging.

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              • nanowiz@vmst.ioN nanowiz@vmst.io

                @malte

                It's always just projection, projection, projection with this trump guy.

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                @nanowiz Exactly! I get reminded how common projections are. But with him, it's almost his default way of communicating.

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                • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

                  Another simple answer that often doesn't get aired: "Why are so many countries around the world just ignoring what is happening in Gaza?" - "Because of racism. That's the simple answer, I would say."

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                  @malte Gaza is moreover seen as economically irrelevant, a population outside global supply chains. There are no consumers of interest, and no iPhones, T-shirts, or semiconductors whose production depends on Gaza.

                  This allows the actors of the global economy to comfortably ignore its destruction.
                  They represent what Marx would describe as a lumpenproletariat, a surplus population excluded from productive circuits

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                  • flatus@radikal.socialF flatus@radikal.social

                    @malte Gaza is moreover seen as economically irrelevant, a population outside global supply chains. There are no consumers of interest, and no iPhones, T-shirts, or semiconductors whose production depends on Gaza.

                    This allows the actors of the global economy to comfortably ignore its destruction.
                    They represent what Marx would describe as a lumpenproletariat, a surplus population excluded from productive circuits

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                    @Flatus For sure. There's lots of capital to unpack in that racism.

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                    • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

                      @hyenachow As I say, the way she uses her anger is actually at a much more intense level than someone who would prematurely release the aggressive energy in a short burst of outrage like throwing things at the wall. Her anger is focused and sustained. And continually put to use. The most intense anger is calm, not loud. https://radikal.social/@malte/114660261178848339

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                      #21

                      @malte @hyenachow makes me think of this Terry Pratchett quote (another person who was also angry at injustice)

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                      • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

                        Greta Thunberg continues to be one of the most mature voices in mainstream media. After having arrived in Paris, a journalist asks her what she has to say about the American tyrant's comment that "She's an angry woman that needs anger management". Thunberg's answer is short and sweet: "Well, I think the world needs a lot more angry women, especially with everything going on right now."

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                        @malte Wait, wasn't that Trump comment years ago?

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                        • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

                          Greta Thunberg continues to be one of the most mature voices in mainstream media. After having arrived in Paris, a journalist asks her what she has to say about the American tyrant's comment that "She's an angry woman that needs anger management". Thunberg's answer is short and sweet: "Well, I think the world needs a lot more angry women, especially with everything going on right now."

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                          @malte Completely agree. She manifests 'constructive anger' and it is even a thing! https://mindworkslab.org/angermonitor/ https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11089-024-01196-x

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                          • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

                            @the5thColumnist I don't think. My point is that she uses us another way of using our anger that is more focused than raging.

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                            @malte

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raging_Grannies

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                            • the5thcolumnist@mstdn.caT the5thcolumnist@mstdn.ca

                              @malte

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raging_Grannies

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                              @the5thColumnist Oh great play, I didn't know them.

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                              • jo@noavailabledisk.spaceJ jo@noavailabledisk.space

                                @malte Wait, wasn't that Trump comment years ago?

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                                @jo Possibly. Does it matter?

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                                • frantasaur@mastodon.ieF frantasaur@mastodon.ie

                                  @malte @hyenachow makes me think of this Terry Pratchett quote (another person who was also angry at injustice)

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                                  @Frantasaur Beautiful and spot on!

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