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  3. I appear to be waging a one-woman ’See Something, Say Something’ campaign where I write to companies to register my displeasure when they use AI to enshittify customer service.

I appear to be waging a one-woman ’See Something, Say Something’ campaign where I write to companies to register my displeasure when they use AI to enshittify customer service.

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  • regguy@mstdn.socialR regguy@mstdn.social

    @missmelanieh @kimlockhartga @Tattooed_Mummy @CiaraNi I ran tech support the final 15 years of my tech career. My favorite tech support call came the day before Thanksgiving. We had a small tech call team, and under 100 big customers. So we knew all of them. Sandy calls the support line, I gave the team off, so I answer it. She says "Joe, why are you answering? Is Jess there?" I explained I gave her time off. Sandy need help with her turkey and Jess had been helping her. I assured her that 1/2

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    #97

    @RegGuy I love this so much. Take that AI - absolutely! @missmelanieh @kimlockhartga @Tattooed_Mummy

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    • regguy@mstdn.socialR regguy@mstdn.social

      @missmelanieh @kimlockhartga @Tattooed_Mummy @CiaraNi

      I could also help, as I was a wiz at baking turkeys. We got her settled down with Jess' recipe and I helped explain the steps. We heard back later that Sandy had success and Thanksgiving dinner went off without a hitch for her.

      Take that AI!

      2/2

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      #98

      @RegGuy 💚

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      • fooflington@infosec.exchangeF fooflington@infosec.exchange

        @CiaraNi customers also complain with AI which often hallucinating laws or rights causing further frustration and wasted time for both parties

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        #99

        @fooflington Great point. It's a common after-work complaint now from many I know in different jobs and industries - that customers are making life difficult by sending long, complex, AI-written submissions and queries, full of irrelvant information and points. The waste of human time on either end is incredible.

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        • wtl@mastodon.socialW wtl@mastodon.social

          @CiaraNi @bluegreenandfree Think of the shareholders though. <sarcasm>

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          #100

          @WTL @bluegreenandfree Indeed

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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

            @JD_Cunningham This is my thinking too. It feels too small, but at the same time, if more of us keep doing it, maybe some companies will register what customers want.

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            #101

            @CiaraNi @JD_Cunningham Trust me: we like happy customers! They make me smile.

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            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

              @dannyman I did consider that. I've been praising them by name in 'real life'. I hesitated to name them here because this is the Fediverse, so someone will probably immediately tell me that there's something wrong with the company - like, it still uses Microsoft, or someone working there once dated someone who uses Substack, or whatever - and I'll get derailed into that conversation. I think it's clean, and it's not American, but I haven't deep-researched it.

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              #102

              @CiaraNi I use WordPress.

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                Customer service staff must be hit doubly hard by enshittification and AI. Companies use AI in a bid to replace their jobs. The AI is useless and wastes time, so even a placid customer with a benign query will become frustrated and fed-up as they try to battle their way through to a human who can actually help. Customer service was hard enough in advance. It must be harder still these days, when AI has made even the pleasant customers cross before they get through to the human.

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                #103

                @CiaraNi we have it the other way around - the company I work for doesn't use AI (yet) but the clients all do. We provide support and consultancy for their websites but daily now have to wade through ai slop sent in by the client's to put on their webpages and blogs. It's awful - dull, mind numbingly repetitive, just lists, nothing thoughtful or original. I feel so utterly depressed by it all.

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                • psneeze@mastodon.ieP psneeze@mastodon.ie

                  @CiaraNi What kills me is the loss of confidence. I can never be 100% certain the answers I get are correct. Yes, I know humans make mistakes too but humans will always agree to double check with a colleague or supervisor when you ask.

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                  #104

                  @psneeze This bothers me too. So much AI-generated misinformation about everything from bus routes to what an insurance policy covers.

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                  • dannyman@sfba.socialD dannyman@sfba.social

                    @CiaraNi I use WordPress.

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                    #105

                    @CiaraNi Even worse: I'm a Democrat.

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                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                      @psneeze This bothers me too. So much AI-generated misinformation about everything from bus routes to what an insurance policy covers.

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                      #106

                      @CiaraNi Zakly. Then you hear the hoors talk about "when AI is rolled out in medicine".

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        I appear to be waging a one-woman ’See Something, Say Something’ campaign where I write to companies to register my displeasure when they use AI to enshittify customer service. And when their app is only available to Google & Apple customers. Their AI wastes my time with useless ’customer service’. I take time to word constructive customer feedback. Their AI reads it. I spend time reading a useless AI reply. AI increases productivity my bollix. What a waste of human time.

                        #OldWomanYellsAtCloud

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                        #107

                        @CiaraNi i did the same recently to a sports training app. They infused it with AI and it no longer worked well. So I left and told them why. And then I was surprised, lots of others did too. All their recent reviews on Google Play Store say the same, which made me take heart: others feel the same

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                        • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                          @CiaraNi No, seriously - research has shown repeatedly that customers who have a complaint & feel acknowledged by customer service are significantly more likely to shop again, *even if their problem wasn't solved!*

                          In other words, having bad customer service was already counterproductive to business & they're just making it so much worse with AI .

                          And yet despite this kind of idiocy, people are still taught at business school that business rationally optimizes itself for profit & growth...

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                          #108

                          @jwcph Great point. It's a positive experience to just be taken seriously as a customer, to have a problem handled competently without time-wasting. I absolutely have had that experience myself - genuinely praising a company because their staff quickly and happily fixed a serious error the company itself had made. If they'd dragged their feet or thrown AI at the problem, I would have had an entirely different attitude afterwards.

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                          • psneeze@mastodon.ieP psneeze@mastodon.ie

                            @CiaraNi Zakly. Then you hear the hoors talk about "when AI is rolled out in medicine".

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                            #109

                            @CiaraNi And here's another thing: I am convinced Googles has deliberately broken normal search to forced us onto their AI shite.

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                            • dannyman@sfba.socialD dannyman@sfba.social

                              @CiaraNi Even worse: I'm a Democrat.

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                              @dannyman Haha - well thank Odin for that, I'd be worried if you were one of that other lot over there 🙂

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                              • dannyman@sfba.socialD dannyman@sfba.social

                                @CiaraNi I use WordPress.

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                                @dannyman I have never blogged, but I have a fondness for WordPress because when I first started following a few blogs in the early days of book blogs, they were always WordPress blogs. So I have a nice association there.

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                                • dannyman@sfba.socialD dannyman@sfba.social

                                  @CiaraNi another cool thing you could do is to give a shout out to your insurance company over here so that other people know that it's a good company to work with.

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                                  @dannyman I'll take my chances here in the heart of the reply thread and say: the insurance company is Gjensidige Forsikring. Norwegian, with a Danish subsidiary. I have never heard anything unethical about them. I sent a mail to them today, praising them for customer service and for their competent staff. And for instant human accessibility without an AI barrier at the start.

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                                  • nead@social.vivaldi.netN nead@social.vivaldi.net

                                    @CiaraNi @kimlockhartga @RealGene try the fried gummy bears. It's a crispy-chewy match made in heaven. Big hit at the county fair.

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                                    @Nead @kimlockhartga @RealGene Fried gummy bears. And I thought deep-fried Mars Bars were the final frontier.

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                                    • makeapppie@techhub.socialM makeapppie@techhub.social

                                      @CiaraNi Had that experience with AAA when I had a flat tire.

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                                      #114

                                      @MakeAppPie That's awful. Exactly the kind of situation where you need help quickly and efficiently. It's also a simple, standard, You Have One Job task to solve for the customer - it's bananas to make it complicated for all human parties through unncessary AI.

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                                      • sorenmriis@helvede.netS sorenmriis@helvede.net

                                        @CiaraNi @JD_Cunningham Trust me: we like happy customers! They make me smile.

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                                        #115

                                        @SorenMRiis @JD_Cunningham I do really hope that our little individual emails of praise do get through to the right people at the company at a strategic level, and that they also praise the staff involved.

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                                        • webidebi@mastodon.socialW webidebi@mastodon.social

                                          @CiaraNi we have it the other way around - the company I work for doesn't use AI (yet) but the clients all do. We provide support and consultancy for their websites but daily now have to wade through ai slop sent in by the client's to put on their webpages and blogs. It's awful - dull, mind numbingly repetitive, just lists, nothing thoughtful or original. I feel so utterly depressed by it all.

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                                          #116

                                          @webidebi Oh that's awful. Soul-destroying. Society-destroying, the way we're going. I am hearing this more and more often from people in different jobs and industries. Customers and contacts sending in slop, sending 20-page AI-generated mails with lots of irrelevant questions even for a simple query. Such a waste of everyone's time. Utterly depressed - yes, that resonates, I feel that way too.

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