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  • huntn00@mastodon.worldH huntn00@mastodon.world

    @Npars01 @esoastronomy There are many nasty high profile people in the news who display this exact expression (as in image) when they are exerting their nastiness onto others. And of course, instead of being a warning ‘tell’, we allow it. Maybe this is what the sheep deserve because a good number of us admire this kind of $$$gluttony. We want to be there with him. 🔥

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    #34

    @Huntn00 @esoastronomy

    As has been reported, much of Elon Musk's apparent public favorability is fake.

    It's used to gain venture capital for him & manipulate stock markets.

    https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/musk-found-liable-twitter-shareholders-fraud-lawsuit-over-44-billion-takeover-2026-03-20/

    https://www.dw.com/en/elon-musk-misled-twitter-shareholders-us-jury-finds/a-76462448

    Bots fishing for Greater Fools
    https://stocktwits.com/news-articles/markets/cryptocurrency/elon-musk-promises-algorithm-transparency-as-crypto-bots-flood-x/cmUeZItR43X

    https://www.businessinsider.com/grok-ai-elon-musk-is-more-fit-than-lebron-james-2025-11

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/14/elon-musk-grok-ai-chatbot-x-linda-yaccarino

    https://forward.com/culture/754111/grok-nazi-hitler-elon-musk-antisemitism-delusion/

    Paid-for Russian influencers
    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2026/jun/29/the-uneasy-story-about-an-alleged-russian-spy-best-podcasts-of-the-week

    https://www.theguardian.com/audible-true-crime-and-investigations/2026/jun/24/new-podcast-investigates-russian-influence-in-us-media

    It's public sentiment manipulation by corporate interests

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    • esoastronomy@mastodon.socialE esoastronomy@mastodon.social

      Both SpaceX & Reflect Orbital have filed with the US Federal Communications Commission for permission to launch.

      Our response to the FCC, together with the UK’s Royal Astronomical Society and the International Astronomical Union, was based on this study 👉 https://www.eso.org/public/news/eso2607/

      📹 F. Kamphues, ESO/M. Kornmesser

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      #35

      @esoastronomy as a stargazer myself, I am obviously standing with you against light pollution that would prohibit certain astronomy research. But the thing is, something much worse is going on, and it is mentioned in only a footnote in your article: the potential devastating effects on our ozone layer by the continuous reentries of old tech satellites which are mostly aluminum. This is the real problem on why these megaconstellations should be halted.

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      • spacerik@spacey.spaceS spacerik@spacey.space

        @esoastronomy as a stargazer myself, I am obviously standing with you against light pollution that would prohibit certain astronomy research. But the thing is, something much worse is going on, and it is mentioned in only a footnote in your article: the potential devastating effects on our ozone layer by the continuous reentries of old tech satellites which are mostly aluminum. This is the real problem on why these megaconstellations should be halted.

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        #36

        @esoastronomy your cause is very valid but some meteorological research groups should be mobilized to address a higher level cause than the light pollution cause.

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        • esoastronomy@mastodon.socialE esoastronomy@mastodon.social

          Reflect Orbital aims to launch 50,000 mirror-like satellites to provide sunlight at night, with reflected beams spanning at least 5 km on Earth's surface.

          This image illustrates how scattered sunlight would increase the overall brightness of the sky above the VLT, even if the mirrors aren’t aiming directly at the observatory.

          3/4

          📷 ESO/O. Hainaut

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          #37

          @esoastronomy Didn't the Soviets (later Russians) tried this and turned out to be a 'crazy idea' !

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Znamya_(satellite)

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          • esoastronomy@mastodon.socialE esoastronomy@mastodon.social

            🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨

            New ESO study finds that current proposals to launch 1.7+ million satellites into orbit would have devastating consequences for astronomy.

            The most extreme proposals come from SpaceX & Reflect Orbital

            1/4

            📷 F. Kamphues, ESO/M. Kornmesser

            #astrodon #astronomy #astrophysics #space #science #environment #pollution

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            #38

            @esoastronomy

            bars in our windows, caging us in

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            • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

              @Huntn00 @esoastronomy

              As has been reported, much of Elon Musk's apparent public favorability is fake.

              It's used to gain venture capital for him & manipulate stock markets.

              https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/musk-found-liable-twitter-shareholders-fraud-lawsuit-over-44-billion-takeover-2026-03-20/

              https://www.dw.com/en/elon-musk-misled-twitter-shareholders-us-jury-finds/a-76462448

              Bots fishing for Greater Fools
              https://stocktwits.com/news-articles/markets/cryptocurrency/elon-musk-promises-algorithm-transparency-as-crypto-bots-flood-x/cmUeZItR43X

              https://www.businessinsider.com/grok-ai-elon-musk-is-more-fit-than-lebron-james-2025-11

              https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/14/elon-musk-grok-ai-chatbot-x-linda-yaccarino

              https://forward.com/culture/754111/grok-nazi-hitler-elon-musk-antisemitism-delusion/

              Paid-for Russian influencers
              https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2026/jun/29/the-uneasy-story-about-an-alleged-russian-spy-best-podcasts-of-the-week

              https://www.theguardian.com/audible-true-crime-and-investigations/2026/jun/24/new-podcast-investigates-russian-influence-in-us-media

              It's public sentiment manipulation by corporate interests

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              #39

              @Npars01 @esoastronomy The Bs are fully committed in seeing #TheCapitalistEndGame though to the bitter ending. It’s the only game they know, the game they bet their lives on, who gathered the largest mountain of gold. 🔥“I WON!!”🔥

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              • spacerik@spacey.spaceS spacerik@spacey.space

                @esoastronomy your cause is very valid but some meteorological research groups should be mobilized to address a higher level cause than the light pollution cause.

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                #40

                @spacerik Indeed, the effects of satellite constellations go beyond their impact on astronomy. The press release is an explainer of our new study, but in parallel we have also escalated up this issue to the policymaking level at an international scale. You can find more details about this in this accompanying video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJNwAKSL17s and this article: https://www.eso.org/public/blog/betty-kioko/

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                • ramsey@phpc.socialR ramsey@phpc.social

                  @esoastronomy In the alt text, it says the simulated image shows the night sky at 3-4x brighter. Is that a worldwide estimate with 50,000 mirrors, or is it localized to the VLT area? The effects to astronomy will be tremendous, but how will this also affect wildlife across the planet?

                  Cc: @sundogplanets

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                  #41

                  @ramsey @sundogplanets The simulation was specifically done over the VLT, but a similar increase would be visible at other locations. Even if the mirrors aren't pointing directly at the observer, when seen sideways they would still be as luminous as a bright planet like Venus. With a swarm of these bright sources above you at any given time, the atmosphere would scatter their light around, leading to the overall increase in brightness you see here.

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                  • zero@mastodon.cisti.orgZ zero@mastodon.cisti.org

                    @esoastronomy
                    Whoa. I was thinking it was a computer-generated image. But it's real!!!

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                    #42

                    @zero Yes, this is a very real image of the current situation with "just" 14 000 satellites. Imagine 100x more...

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                    • jumpmed@mastodon.socialJ jumpmed@mastodon.social

                      @raymaccarthy @esoastronomy It's amazing that countries haven't started labeling Musk orgs as threats to the national interest. It's time to start treating these greedy fuckers as adversaries.

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                      #43

                      @Jumpmed @esoastronomy
                      Also his friend that made him rich. Peter Thiel and totally evil Palintir.

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                      • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

                        @esoastronomy

                        if you want to stop or diminish this, instead of complaining, you need a plan to deliver the benefits without the harm

                        IMO

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                        #44

                        @failedLyndonLaRouchite@mas.to @esoastronomy@mastodon.social Reflect Orbital is worse than useless. It transmits a few percentage points of sunlight to a spot on the ground. This is intended as a means to make solar farms operate at night, but a satellite providing 5% of sunlight to a few square kilometers of solar power is going to be a lot more expensive than 5% more solar panels and increasingly cheap batteries (like iron flow batteries).

                        The orbiting datacenter plans are a way to get super expensive computers nominally beyond Earth jurisdiction, but maintaining an orbital datacenter is basically impossible and they can barely shed heat.

                        The satellite internet swarms are an alternative to previous generation internet satellites. Lots of close satellites to take the place of fewer, further ones.

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                        • esoastronomy@mastodon.socialE esoastronomy@mastodon.social

                          🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨

                          New ESO study finds that current proposals to launch 1.7+ million satellites into orbit would have devastating consequences for astronomy.

                          The most extreme proposals come from SpaceX & Reflect Orbital

                          1/4

                          📷 F. Kamphues, ESO/M. Kornmesser

                          #astrodon #astronomy #astrophysics #space #science #environment #pollution

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                          #45

                          @esoastronomy
                          "Firefly" intro: "Burn the land and boil the sea, You can't take the sky from me."

                          Oligarchs: "Hold my beer!"

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                          • esoastronomy@mastodon.socialE esoastronomy@mastodon.social

                            🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨

                            New ESO study finds that current proposals to launch 1.7+ million satellites into orbit would have devastating consequences for astronomy.

                            The most extreme proposals come from SpaceX & Reflect Orbital

                            1/4

                            📷 F. Kamphues, ESO/M. Kornmesser

                            #astrodon #astronomy #astrophysics #space #science #environment #pollution

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                            #46

                            @esoastronomy That is literally selling stolen moonlight. That light those mirrors would collect belongs to all of humanity, not to some rocket bros with sonnengewher vibes.

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                            • esoastronomy@mastodon.socialE esoastronomy@mastodon.social

                              🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨

                              New ESO study finds that current proposals to launch 1.7+ million satellites into orbit would have devastating consequences for astronomy.

                              The most extreme proposals come from SpaceX & Reflect Orbital

                              1/4

                              📷 F. Kamphues, ESO/M. Kornmesser

                              #astrodon #astronomy #astrophysics #space #science #environment #pollution

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                              #47

                              @esoastronomy FCC should only be allowed to authorise geosynchronous orbit above USA. They have no right to pollute space above me or anyone else who doesn't live in the USA.

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                              • esoastronomy@mastodon.socialE esoastronomy@mastodon.social

                                🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨

                                New ESO study finds that current proposals to launch 1.7+ million satellites into orbit would have devastating consequences for astronomy.

                                The most extreme proposals come from SpaceX & Reflect Orbital

                                1/4

                                📷 F. Kamphues, ESO/M. Kornmesser

                                #astrodon #astronomy #astrophysics #space #science #environment #pollution

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                                #48

                                @esoastronomy This is disturbing to say the least. If there's truly no way to stop them from doing this, though, what if we just taxed the hell out of them and used that money to build a scientific outpost on the far side of the moon. That way they get their sky-destroying capitalist's wet dream, and we get a nifty new place to do science and, most of all, the sky would be clearer than on Earth.

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                                • esoastronomy@mastodon.socialE esoastronomy@mastodon.social

                                  🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨

                                  New ESO study finds that current proposals to launch 1.7+ million satellites into orbit would have devastating consequences for astronomy.

                                  The most extreme proposals come from SpaceX & Reflect Orbital

                                  1/4

                                  📷 F. Kamphues, ESO/M. Kornmesser

                                  #astrodon #astronomy #astrophysics #space #science #environment #pollution

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                                  #49

                                  @esoastronomy When they lose their orbit, they'll probably kill us all.

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                                  • esoastronomy@mastodon.socialE esoastronomy@mastodon.social

                                    Reflect Orbital aims to launch 50,000 mirror-like satellites to provide sunlight at night, with reflected beams spanning at least 5 km on Earth's surface.

                                    This image illustrates how scattered sunlight would increase the overall brightness of the sky above the VLT, even if the mirrors aren’t aiming directly at the observatory.

                                    3/4

                                    📷 ESO/O. Hainaut

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                                    #50

                                    @esoastronomy someone has to tell him that it will stay dark under his bed.

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                                    • huntn00@mastodon.worldH huntn00@mastodon.world

                                      @Npars01 @esoastronomy The Bs are fully committed in seeing #TheCapitalistEndGame though to the bitter ending. It’s the only game they know, the game they bet their lives on, who gathered the largest mountain of gold. 🔥“I WON!!”🔥

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                                      #51

                                      @Huntn00 @esoastronomy

                                      Necro-capitalism
                                      Jim stewartson
                                      Mind War

                                      American Necrocracy: How the U.S. Government Became a Death Creator
                                      The world needs a revolution of the living.

                                      https://www.mind-war.com/p/american-necrocracy-how-the-us-government

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                                      • esoastronomy@mastodon.socialE esoastronomy@mastodon.social

                                        Both SpaceX & Reflect Orbital have filed with the US Federal Communications Commission for permission to launch.

                                        Our response to the FCC, together with the UK’s Royal Astronomical Society and the International Astronomical Union, was based on this study 👉 https://www.eso.org/public/news/eso2607/

                                        📹 F. Kamphues, ESO/M. Kornmesser

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                                        #52

                                        @esoastronomy
                                        Why does the FCC have authority over the space above Europe?

                                        They already allowed a US satellite company hogging european HAM radio frequencies even when in radio range of europe.

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                                        • esoastronomy@mastodon.socialE esoastronomy@mastodon.social

                                          🚨 Beyond the limit 🚨

                                          New ESO study finds that current proposals to launch 1.7+ million satellites into orbit would have devastating consequences for astronomy.

                                          The most extreme proposals come from SpaceX & Reflect Orbital

                                          1/4

                                          📷 F. Kamphues, ESO/M. Kornmesser

                                          #astrodon #astronomy #astrophysics #space #science #environment #pollution

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                                          #53

                                          @esoastronomy I'm not surprised at all, great job!

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