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  3. Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader.

Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader.

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  • barberousse_bin@todon.euB barberousse_bin@todon.eu

    @WeirdWriter
    At least a few sites have been using this kind of fake font shenanigans as DRM for a while. It's a nightmare for accessibility, and just generally a terrible user-experience (as any kind of DRM usually is):

    Screen reader -> Broken, or sounds like it's possessed by an evil robot
    Copy-paste -> Garbage
    Search -> Haha, no
    Translate -> Good luck hand-copying that language you don't know

    I can't remember which exact site it was, but it was one of those that let you read limited previews of scientific papers.

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    #20

    @barberousse_bin @WeirdWriter in college, a $100 textbook I was forced to purchase digitally for a 4 week 1 credit course did a similar form of DRM (except the text was displayed as a low resolution image) and it was giving me a migraine trying to read it, so I pirated a PDF copy of the textbook I'd already purchased just so I could have a version that was actually readable

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    • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

      Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader. I did try the demo. If you want me to remove your RSS feed, this is the best font to prevent blind people from reading your blog/words. That timer is an inaccessible solution. https://shieldfont.org/#hero #AI #LLM #Accessibility #A11y

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      #21

      @WeirdWriter going against genai/llm is very good but it should never be at the cost of accessibility. we need to support our comrades

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      • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

        @WeirdWriter going against genai/llm is very good but it should never be at the cost of accessibility. we need to support our comrades

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        #22

        @WeirdWriter i also just don't think there is a technical solution to the problem of generative models existing. it's a social problem and it only has social solutions

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        • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

          @WeirdWriter going against genai/llm is very good but it should never be at the cost of accessibility. we need to support our comrades

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          #23
          noticing that the whole github repo has ai agents config and all
          it's not against genai as a whole
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          • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

            Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader. I did try the demo. If you want me to remove your RSS feed, this is the best font to prevent blind people from reading your blog/words. That timer is an inaccessible solution. https://shieldfont.org/#hero #AI #LLM #Accessibility #A11y

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            #24

            @WeirdWriter Anything but actually confront the problem.

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            • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

              @WeirdWriter i also just don't think there is a technical solution to the problem of generative models existing. it's a social problem and it only has social solutions

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              #25

              @lumi@snug.moe @WeirdWriter@caneandable.social ironic. it's vibe coded.

              i knew the site was screaming ai design language but was hoping it was my spidey sense sending a false positive

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              • ada@zoner.workA ada@zoner.work

                @lumi@snug.moe @WeirdWriter@caneandable.social ironic. it's vibe coded.

                i knew the site was screaming ai design language but was hoping it was my spidey sense sending a false positive

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                #26

                @lumi@snug.moe @WeirdWriter@caneandable.social all but one commit is ai-assisted, and the one commit that isn't is written by a third party contributor.

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                • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                  @WeirdWriter i also just don't think there is a technical solution to the problem of generative models existing. it's a social problem and it only has social solutions

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                  #27

                  Right! I don't either, I think LLMs are a social problem, not a technical problem. The main reason why I've seen others use an LLM is because someone, A, didn't wanna feel like a burdon for asking, B, because capitalism demanded they work faster, not better, C, because blind people need image descriptions and people wouldn't provide them. @lumi

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                  • ada@zoner.workA ada@zoner.work

                    @lumi@snug.moe @WeirdWriter@caneandable.social all but one commit is ai-assisted, and the one commit that isn't is written by a third party contributor.

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                    #28

                    Ugh! This shit writes itself at this point, pretty soon, LLM companies will start selling LLM blockers if they haven't done so already @ada @lumi

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                    • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                      Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader. I did try the demo. If you want me to remove your RSS feed, this is the best font to prevent blind people from reading your blog/words. That timer is an inaccessible solution. https://shieldfont.org/#hero #AI #LLM #Accessibility #A11y

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                      #29

                      @WeirdWriter
                      I doubt it works, or will work long if it does.

                      A stupid idea I won't be using!

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                      • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                        Ugh! This shit writes itself at this point, pretty soon, LLM companies will start selling LLM blockers if they haven't done so already @ada @lumi

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                        #30

                        @WeirdWriter@caneandable.social @lumi@snug.moe already there; https://thenextweb.com/news/superhuman-gptzero-acquisition-ai-detection

                        grammarly also offers services to make ai text untraceable while at the same time selling an ai detector.

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                        • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                          Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader. I did try the demo. If you want me to remove your RSS feed, this is the best font to prevent blind people from reading your blog/words. That timer is an inaccessible solution. https://shieldfont.org/#hero #AI #LLM #Accessibility #A11y

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                          @WeirdWriter Why do these people badly re-invent the wheel in the first place when there's already Iocaine <https://iocaine.madhouse-project.org/>?

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                          • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                            Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader. I did try the demo. If you want me to remove your RSS feed, this is the best font to prevent blind people from reading your blog/words. That timer is an inaccessible solution. https://shieldfont.org/#hero #AI #LLM #Accessibility #A11y

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                            #32

                            @WeirdWriter like a few days ago I thought to myself “won’t this be inaccessible?”

                            I’m not surprised, but I am disappointed, to be right.

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                            • R raulmatias@mstdn.social

                              @WeirdWriter Why do these people badly re-invent the wheel in the first place when there's already Iocaine <https://iocaine.madhouse-project.org/>?

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                              #33

                              Probably so they can do this https://thenextweb.com/news/superhuman-gptzero-acquisition-ai-detection @raulmatias

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                              • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                                Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader. I did try the demo. If you want me to remove your RSS feed, this is the best font to prevent blind people from reading your blog/words. That timer is an inaccessible solution. https://shieldfont.org/#hero #AI #LLM #Accessibility #A11y

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                                #34

                                @WeirdWriter The worst thing about this is that even though we, the techies, know better, there are orders of magnitude more less-technically knowledgeable people who are going to use this and completely fuck up accessibility, copy & paste, RSS feeds, etc. on their websites.

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                                • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                                  Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader. I did try the demo. If you want me to remove your RSS feed, this is the best font to prevent blind people from reading your blog/words. That timer is an inaccessible solution. https://shieldfont.org/#hero #AI #LLM #Accessibility #A11y

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                                  #35

                                  @WeirdWriter@caneandable.social

                                  I'm not blind but I have my browser set to ignore website fonts because there are many I have trouble reading, so I see scrambled text too.

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                                  • R raulmatias@mstdn.social

                                    @WeirdWriter The worst thing about this is that even though we, the techies, know better, there are orders of magnitude more less-technically knowledgeable people who are going to use this and completely fuck up accessibility, copy & paste, RSS feeds, etc. on their websites.

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                                    #36

                                    This is why I always maintain the best way is to go the other way, allow all scraping ingestion etc etc etc even though your server may take a huge hit from the traffic, but this blogger does it and he doesn't have a high bill https://starbreaker.org/colophon.html @raulmatias

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                                    • 2something@transfem.social2 2something@transfem.social

                                      @WeirdWriter@caneandable.social

                                      I'm not blind but I have my browser set to ignore website fonts because there are many I have trouble reading, so I see scrambled text too.

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                                      #37

                                      Yep! It reminds me of captchas all over again. Does fuck all to stop bots but people will use it anyway. I maintain the best thing is to do what this blogger did, no blockers at all https://starbreaker.org/colophon.html @2something

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                                      • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                                        This is why I always maintain the best way is to go the other way, allow all scraping ingestion etc etc etc even though your server may take a huge hit from the traffic, but this blogger does it and he doesn't have a high bill https://starbreaker.org/colophon.html @raulmatias

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                                        #38

                                        @WeirdWriter Not all people want or can afford beefy servers. There are also some webmasters who block crawlers/scrapers out of principle.

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                                        • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                                          Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader. I did try the demo. If you want me to remove your RSS feed, this is the best font to prevent blind people from reading your blog/words. That timer is an inaccessible solution. https://shieldfont.org/#hero #AI #LLM #Accessibility #A11y

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                                          #39

                                          @WeirdWriter this will also affect archivers like archive.org

                                          This font seems like the wrong response to the problem

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