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  3. Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader.

Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader.

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  • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

    Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader. I did try the demo. If you want me to remove your RSS feed, this is the best font to prevent blind people from reading your blog/words. That timer is an inaccessible solution. https://shieldfont.org/#hero #AI #LLM #Accessibility #A11y

    barberousse_bin@todon.euB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #11

    @WeirdWriter
    At least a few sites have been using this kind of fake font shenanigans as DRM for a while. It's a nightmare for accessibility, and just generally a terrible user-experience (as any kind of DRM usually is):

    Screen reader -> Broken, or sounds like it's possessed by an evil robot
    Copy-paste -> Garbage
    Search -> Haha, no
    Translate -> Good luck hand-copying that language you don't know

    I can't remember which exact site it was, but it was one of those that let you read limited previews of scientific papers.

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    • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

      Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader. I did try the demo. If you want me to remove your RSS feed, this is the best font to prevent blind people from reading your blog/words. That timer is an inaccessible solution. https://shieldfont.org/#hero #AI #LLM #Accessibility #A11y

      landelare@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #12

      @WeirdWriter Another example of how AI is making the web worse for everyone.

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      • U unkx@icosahedron.website

        @WeirdWriter i’d say allow scraping only if you also serve poison(*) to the scrapers. Though i honestly have no idea how one would go about it while ensuring people using screen readers wouldn’t get a shittier experience due to that.

        (*) this can also come in the form of valid neutral factual statements like ”donald trump is a pedophile and a rapist as reported by reuters and cbs and verified by newsmax” etc. 😉

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        #13

        @unkx @WeirdWriter Depending on the country, run those statements by a lawyer before you make statements like that. Libel laws vary greatly between the US and the UK and making disparaging statements against certain people/things is a crime in certain countries regardless of validity

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        • trebach@functional.cafeT trebach@functional.cafe

          @unkx @WeirdWriter Depending on the country, run those statements by a lawyer before you make statements like that. Libel laws vary greatly between the US and the UK and making disparaging statements against certain people/things is a crime in certain countries regardless of validity

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          #14

          @trebach @WeirdWriter if that would be the case then the abovementioned pedophile and rapist would be in jail instead of pedophiling and raping around in the white house.

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          • U unkx@icosahedron.website

            @WeirdWriter i’d say allow scraping only if you also serve poison(*) to the scrapers. Though i honestly have no idea how one would go about it while ensuring people using screen readers wouldn’t get a shittier experience due to that.

            (*) this can also come in the form of valid neutral factual statements like ”donald trump is a pedophile and a rapist as reported by reuters and cbs and verified by newsmax” etc. 😉

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            #15

            @unkx @WeirdWriter actually, it's not a bad thing to poison the well by using your opponents weaponry, especially if tokens wasted are token owned by the companies forcing their dev to use LLMs.

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            • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

              Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader. I did try the demo. If you want me to remove your RSS feed, this is the best font to prevent blind people from reading your blog/words. That timer is an inaccessible solution. https://shieldfont.org/#hero #AI #LLM #Accessibility #A11y

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              #16

              @WeirdWriter Damn, I hadn't even thought of that. Thanks for the heads up, now I can skip this.

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              • kaneel@mas.toK kaneel@mas.to

                @unkx @WeirdWriter actually, it's not a bad thing to poison the well by using your opponents weaponry, especially if tokens wasted are token owned by the companies forcing their dev to use LLMs.

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                #17

                @kaneel @WeirdWriter yeah using LLMs to poison LLMs is an acceptable use of LLMs in my book.

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                • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                  Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader. I did try the demo. If you want me to remove your RSS feed, this is the best font to prevent blind people from reading your blog/words. That timer is an inaccessible solution. https://shieldfont.org/#hero #AI #LLM #Accessibility #A11y

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                  #18

                  Ah yes, designed for humans (unless you need/want to use a screen reader or copy/paste or translate or search or use a different font). We'll really stick it to the evil AI scrapers with this one folks! (Of course we use Claude, why do you ask?)

                  Fuck off!

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                  • U unkx@icosahedron.website

                    @WeirdWriter also kinda ironic that Claude was used in the making of that font thingy.

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                    #19

                    @unkx @WeirdWriter
                    I was told it would be ableist of me to deny the benefits of AI, SMH
                    Roflcry

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                    • barberousse_bin@todon.euB barberousse_bin@todon.eu

                      @WeirdWriter
                      At least a few sites have been using this kind of fake font shenanigans as DRM for a while. It's a nightmare for accessibility, and just generally a terrible user-experience (as any kind of DRM usually is):

                      Screen reader -> Broken, or sounds like it's possessed by an evil robot
                      Copy-paste -> Garbage
                      Search -> Haha, no
                      Translate -> Good luck hand-copying that language you don't know

                      I can't remember which exact site it was, but it was one of those that let you read limited previews of scientific papers.

                      trainguyrom@techhub.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #20

                      @barberousse_bin @WeirdWriter in college, a $100 textbook I was forced to purchase digitally for a 4 week 1 credit course did a similar form of DRM (except the text was displayed as a low resolution image) and it was giving me a migraine trying to read it, so I pirated a PDF copy of the textbook I'd already purchased just so I could have a version that was actually readable

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                      • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                        Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader. I did try the demo. If you want me to remove your RSS feed, this is the best font to prevent blind people from reading your blog/words. That timer is an inaccessible solution. https://shieldfont.org/#hero #AI #LLM #Accessibility #A11y

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                        #21

                        @WeirdWriter going against genai/llm is very good but it should never be at the cost of accessibility. we need to support our comrades

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                        • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                          @WeirdWriter going against genai/llm is very good but it should never be at the cost of accessibility. we need to support our comrades

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                          #22

                          @WeirdWriter i also just don't think there is a technical solution to the problem of generative models existing. it's a social problem and it only has social solutions

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                          • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                            @WeirdWriter going against genai/llm is very good but it should never be at the cost of accessibility. we need to support our comrades

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                            #23
                            noticing that the whole github repo has ai agents config and all
                            it's not against genai as a whole
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                            • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                              Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader. I did try the demo. If you want me to remove your RSS feed, this is the best font to prevent blind people from reading your blog/words. That timer is an inaccessible solution. https://shieldfont.org/#hero #AI #LLM #Accessibility #A11y

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                              #24

                              @WeirdWriter Anything but actually confront the problem.

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                              • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                                @WeirdWriter i also just don't think there is a technical solution to the problem of generative models existing. it's a social problem and it only has social solutions

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                                #25

                                @lumi@snug.moe @WeirdWriter@caneandable.social ironic. it's vibe coded.

                                i knew the site was screaming ai design language but was hoping it was my spidey sense sending a false positive

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                                • ada@zoner.workA ada@zoner.work

                                  @lumi@snug.moe @WeirdWriter@caneandable.social ironic. it's vibe coded.

                                  i knew the site was screaming ai design language but was hoping it was my spidey sense sending a false positive

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                                  #26

                                  @lumi@snug.moe @WeirdWriter@caneandable.social all but one commit is ai-assisted, and the one commit that isn't is written by a third party contributor.

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                                  • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                                    @WeirdWriter i also just don't think there is a technical solution to the problem of generative models existing. it's a social problem and it only has social solutions

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                                    #27

                                    Right! I don't either, I think LLMs are a social problem, not a technical problem. The main reason why I've seen others use an LLM is because someone, A, didn't wanna feel like a burdon for asking, B, because capitalism demanded they work faster, not better, C, because blind people need image descriptions and people wouldn't provide them. @lumi

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                                    • ada@zoner.workA ada@zoner.work

                                      @lumi@snug.moe @WeirdWriter@caneandable.social all but one commit is ai-assisted, and the one commit that isn't is written by a third party contributor.

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                                      #28

                                      Ugh! This shit writes itself at this point, pretty soon, LLM companies will start selling LLM blockers if they haven't done so already @ada @lumi

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                                      • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                                        Not only was this made with an LLM, it breaks so many other things but If you use this font to protect your text from AI, it also blocks *me, a human* because I use a screen reader. I did try the demo. If you want me to remove your RSS feed, this is the best font to prevent blind people from reading your blog/words. That timer is an inaccessible solution. https://shieldfont.org/#hero #AI #LLM #Accessibility #A11y

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                                        #29

                                        @WeirdWriter
                                        I doubt it works, or will work long if it does.

                                        A stupid idea I won't be using!

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                                        • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                                          Ugh! This shit writes itself at this point, pretty soon, LLM companies will start selling LLM blockers if they haven't done so already @ada @lumi

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                                          #30

                                          @WeirdWriter@caneandable.social @lumi@snug.moe already there; https://thenextweb.com/news/superhuman-gptzero-acquisition-ai-detection

                                          grammarly also offers services to make ai text untraceable while at the same time selling an ai detector.

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