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  • grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.placeG grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.place

    Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. I'm running out of browsers. I worry browser are big and complicated enough these days that they will always be run by horrible people. Feels like I need to find the browser run by the least horrible people.

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    #14

    @grumpygamer Falkon if you're using GNU/Linux.

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    • jcurioso@mastodon.socialJ jcurioso@mastodon.social

      @grumpygamer

      Vivaldi seems OK, unless I missed something. They always hated cryptos and AI, for example. They are not open source, though.

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      #15

      @jcurioso @grumpygamer In this age, I take non-open source if it halfway works and isn't promoting fascism.

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      • grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.placeG grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.place

        Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. I'm running out of browsers. I worry browser are big and complicated enough these days that they will always be run by horrible people. Feels like I need to find the browser run by the least horrible people.

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        #16

        @grumpygamer Likewise.

        *browser
        *email
        *OS
        *office suite
        *etc

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          @grumpygamer I use Vivaldi, I'm hoping they haven't shit the bed yet

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          #17

          @GossiTheDog
          Second vote for Vivaldi. It's degoogled chr9mium, but they're good people.
          @grumpygamer

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          • grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.placeG grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.place

            Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. I'm running out of browsers. I worry browser are big and complicated enough these days that they will always be run by horrible people. Feels like I need to find the browser run by the least horrible people.

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            #18

            @grumpygamer I’ve been living with Vivaldi for a while without complaint so far.

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            • grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.placeG grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.place

              Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. I'm running out of browsers. I worry browser are big and complicated enough these days that they will always be run by horrible people. Feels like I need to find the browser run by the least horrible people.

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              #19

              @grumpygamer Emacs has the web wowser, 'eww', if you want lynx with images and fonts, basically 🫣

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              • jorismeys@mstdn.socialJ jorismeys@mstdn.social

                @GossiTheDog
                Second vote for Vivaldi. It's degoogled chr9mium, but they're good people.
                @grumpygamer

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                #20

                @JorisMeys @GossiTheDog @grumpygamer +1

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                • grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.placeG grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. I'm running out of browsers. I worry browser are big and complicated enough these days that they will always be run by horrible people. Feels like I need to find the browser run by the least horrible people.

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                  #21

                  @grumpygamer Vivaldi!

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                  • grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.placeG grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. I'm running out of browsers. I worry browser are big and complicated enough these days that they will always be run by horrible people. Feels like I need to find the browser run by the least horrible people.

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                    #22

                    @grumpygamer Cross out "browser". Put in "anything". this is Capitalism.

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                    • grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.placeG grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. I'm running out of browsers. I worry browser are big and complicated enough these days that they will always be run by horrible people. Feels like I need to find the browser run by the least horrible people.

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                      #23

                      @grumpygamer I’ve been to some talks with people from Vivaldi and they seem to be very into taking the internet back from evil megacorps. Based in Norway. They did some cool stunts a while back trying to get people off the meta:

                      https://www.kode24.no/artikkel/nasjonal-dugnad-for-a-hjelpe-nordmenn-vekk-fra-big-tech/262762

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                      • yora@mastodon.gamedev.placeY yora@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        @jcurioso @grumpygamer In this age, I take non-open source if it halfway works and isn't promoting fascism.

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                        #24

                        @yora @grumpygamer

                        Feature wise, I think it is the most complete I know; the only thing I am missing now is container tabs. It uses the same engine as Chrome, after all.

                        The company is a norwegian-icelandic, employee owned, depending on donations.

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                        • grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.placeG grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. I'm running out of browsers. I worry browser are big and complicated enough these days that they will always be run by horrible people. Feels like I need to find the browser run by the least horrible people.

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                          @grumpygamer if you don't mind that it doesn't work, #Ladybird browser from the #SerenityOS people might be a thing.

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                          • grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.placeG grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. I'm running out of browsers. I worry browser are big and complicated enough these days that they will always be run by horrible people. Feels like I need to find the browser run by the least horrible people.

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                            #26

                            @grumpygamer Safari

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                            • virtualbri@mastodon.onlineV virtualbri@mastodon.online

                              @grumpygamer Cross out "browser". Put in "anything". this is Capitalism.

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                              #27

                              @virtualbri @grumpygamer

                              > “Enshittification” is a term coined by the author and activist Cory Doctorow, which describes the deliberate process of degradation of digital products and services.

                              Thanks @pluralistic

                              https://www.forbrukerradet.no/news-in-english/digital-products-and-services-are-getting-worse-but-the-trend-can-be-reversed/

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                              • grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.placeG grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. I'm running out of browsers. I worry browser are big and complicated enough these days that they will always be run by horrible people. Feels like I need to find the browser run by the least horrible people.

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                                @grumpygamer ...is there something I don't know about Vivaldi?

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  @grumpygamer I use Vivaldi, I'm hoping they haven't shit the bed yet

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                                  #29

                                  @GossiTheDog @grumpygamer same, been using it for years and they haven't done anything so far. Always time for them to sell it to the Chinese like they did with Opera, but here's hoping that doesn't happen.

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                                  • grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.placeG grumpygamer@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    Every time I try a new browser because the old browser was run by horrible people I find the new browser is also run by horrible people. I'm running out of browsers. I worry browser are big and complicated enough these days that they will always be run by horrible people. Feels like I need to find the browser run by the least horrible people.

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                                    #30
                                    And that's why some people are falling back to the freakin' Gemini protocol, of all things. Well, in this world, the only choices to not be accessory to evil are apparently either that or boycotting anything that runs on electricity
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                                    • benedicte@mastodon.kodeklang.socialB benedicte@mastodon.kodeklang.social

                                      @grumpygamer I’ve been to some talks with people from Vivaldi and they seem to be very into taking the internet back from evil megacorps. Based in Norway. They did some cool stunts a while back trying to get people off the meta:

                                      https://www.kode24.no/artikkel/nasjonal-dugnad-for-a-hjelpe-nordmenn-vekk-fra-big-tech/262762

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                                      #31
                                      I still don't trust Vivaldi's closed-source part of their browser to be clean, in that sense even Brave has them beat to the part unfortunately. For now, I guess Waterfox is the least bad of the bunch
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                                      • eldadoinquieto@mastorol.esE eldadoinquieto@mastorol.es

                                        @grumpygamer LibreWolf?

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                                        #32

                                        @eldadoinquieto @grumpygamer

                                        works well enough for me. IronFox on Android

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                                        • jcurioso@mastodon.socialJ jcurioso@mastodon.social

                                          @yora @grumpygamer

                                          Feature wise, I think it is the most complete I know; the only thing I am missing now is container tabs. It uses the same engine as Chrome, after all.

                                          The company is a norwegian-icelandic, employee owned, depending on donations.

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                                          #33

                                          @jcurioso @grumpygamer It's missing the ability to have the tabs above the URL bar. Which is the only place where they have any right to be.

                                          Damn techno-fascism for making me endure this travesty.

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