Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe?
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@xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission
I wouldn't migrate to Europe for anything lol America is the best country and that says a hell of a lot
@DonJon111 @xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission
These days it hardly qualifies as a civilized country any more.
- Rampant racism => Check
- Labor rights => Nada
- Universal Health Care => Nada
- Rising Fascism => Check
- Unreliable Ally => CheckIt would behoove you American Patriots all well to have a long hard look into the mirror before tossing off on any European country.
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@traveling_mike @EUCommission many parts of a VW car is not VW made. In fairness my friend has a GTI Golf with very cool modifications on it
@vanzick @traveling_mike @EUCommission
Especially the steering wheel might not be such a good example ....
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@EUCommission Can we have a legally enforceable ‘opt-out’ option for any and all “AI” slop?
@FluffyBunnikins @EUCommission
Count me in!
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@jasper89 @dazo @Paul_Harts @EUCommission
It is 99% Apple or Google. If you consider that a choice, I have a bunch of two-party political systems to sell you...
@avuko @jasper89 @dazo @Paul_Harts @EUCommission
But then Jasper89 is likely an US citizen so cannot see anything wrong with your offer....
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@DonJon111 @xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission
These days it hardly qualifies as a civilized country any more.
- Rampant racism => Check
- Labor rights => Nada
- Universal Health Care => Nada
- Rising Fascism => Check
- Unreliable Ally => CheckIt would behoove you American Patriots all well to have a long hard look into the mirror before tossing off on any European country.
@glitzersachen @xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission
Hey! You're right!
Atleast, I have the right to carry a firearm and have free-speech to defend myself from fascism>>>
This beats everything. Sorry. Get your rights up, son. I love my country
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@EUCommission
Normally I am in heated agreement with EU style regulation but I'm not on this.VW only uses VW parts on VW cars. Do consumers have a right to buy a VW car and insist on a Toyota steering wheel? Obviously not.
@traveling_mike @EUCommission Extremely non-comparable segments. One at its baseline, is transportation and the other mostly software.
You can choose between many car brands, but only two operating systems for smartphones - Android or iOS. (Linux is not yet mature and anything else is de-googled OS)
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Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight
️@EUCommission if Apple is unable to develop interoperability solutions ... I would not call this "they choose, not to deliver..."
Yes, in theory one could argue that they still could have delivered and violated some regulations.... But that's not really what anybody wants.On the other hand
If Apple choose to not deliver - they were not: "unable to provide" ... -
@EUCommission it's not for you to choose what options a provider give us. If we trust Apple to give us the right choice, it should be our choice as consumer to buy their products with the feature set complete.
You meddling with a free market and telling a private enterprise how they should build their products is a scary thing for a regulatory body to do.
let the market choose on its own.
@webjac @EUCommission Why don’t we flip your statement for a second. Apple chooses to enter our European market, we have rules. They do not need to be here, they can just choose to go somewhere else.
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@EUCommission it's not for you to choose what options a provider give us. If we trust Apple to give us the right choice, it should be our choice as consumer to buy their products with the feature set complete.
You meddling with a free market and telling a private enterprise how they should build their products is a scary thing for a regulatory body to do.
let the market choose on its own.
- We also tell car manufacturers that they cannot make products that pollute the air to their own liking.
- We also tell toy manufacturers that they cannot put toxic chemicals in their products.
- We also tell manufacturers of electronic devices that they cannot just slap anything together and not test them
- We also tell producers of medicine that they cannot just put whatever they want in their pills.
Regulation is quite normal - even in the US.
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@EUCommission
Normally I am in heated agreement with EU style regulation but I'm not on this.VW only uses VW parts on VW cars. Do consumers have a right to buy a VW car and insist on a Toyota steering wheel? Obviously not.
Of course I can put a different steering wheel in my car. Apple don't want to let you replace siri ai with the ai of your choice.
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@glitzersachen @xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission
Hey! You're right!
Atleast, I have the right to carry a firearm and have free-speech to defend myself from fascism>>>
This beats everything. Sorry. Get your rights up, son. I love my country
️🥳@DonJon111 @xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission
> , son.
Well, I am not your son. At least I hope so, for you. Anybody this old would be well advised to stay away from Internet commenting on politics.
> Atleast, I have the right to carry a firearm
A useful thing when civilization breaks down. More useful for you, then, than for me. You are nearer.
> and have free-speech to defend myself from fascism
Somehow you Americans seem to labor under the impression that you are the only ones in the world having free speech. LOL.
Also, what is it good for, if you are not fighting fascism, then? You take your time ... and it doesn't seem to work.
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Of course I can put a different steering wheel in my car. Apple don't want to let you replace siri ai with the ai of your choice.
@geoffl @EUCommission Good luck getting airbag to work. At the integration layer that Apple is inserting AI it is wise to restrict access to it. Apple's arguments are the correct arguments in this particular conversation.
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Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight
️@EUCommission „to close“, Not „too close“
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@traveling_mike @EUCommission Extremely non-comparable segments. One at its baseline, is transportation and the other mostly software.
You can choose between many car brands, but only two operating systems for smartphones - Android or iOS. (Linux is not yet mature and anything else is de-googled OS)
The segment doesn't need to be comparable for the point to be accurate. I have a significant expertise in machine learning and software development. Android is a Linux distribution by the way.
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@DonJon111 @xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission
> , son.
Well, I am not your son. At least I hope so, for you. Anybody this old would be well advised to stay away from Internet commenting on politics.
> Atleast, I have the right to carry a firearm
A useful thing when civilization breaks down. More useful for you, then, than for me. You are nearer.
> and have free-speech to defend myself from fascism
Somehow you Americans seem to labor under the impression that you are the only ones in the world having free speech. LOL.
Also, what is it good for, if you are not fighting fascism, then? You take your time ... and it doesn't seem to work.
@glitzersachen @xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission
1. It's American slang.2. The right to bear arms is a universal, inalienable right every country in the world should give it's citizens.
3. That's your impression of me. I've seen instances where citizens in the UK and Germany have been punished for certain statements online.
Ultimately, this world is just fucked up. But, I do wonder what part the EU plays in adopting central bank roles related to fascism and propaganda?
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@traveling_mike @EUCommission
I don't understand your argument. Anyone is allowed to fit wheels from any supplier, or battery, or many other parts that are typically supplied as an "add on". There are multiple specialist suppliers of car parts for most major models of car.
The maker of a model (not just cars) are obliged by the EU, to provide a proper spec, then any competent supplier can design their items to fit.
This prevents monopoly overcharging for 'parts' to anything.You're not seeing the forest because of the trees. VW does not have to design a vehicle that will accept a Toyota steering wheel. VW will not sell you a new VW with a non VW steering wheel.
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@Javensbukan @EUCommission That's the problem. In this case the regulation is not needed from my point of view. We can differ on that of course
@webjac @Javensbukan @EUCommission so you love monopolies?
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Apple's endgame is never to comply with the EU Commission, but rather wait for enough people to complain to the EU Commission to change the rules.
That is the endgame.
@LinuxBSD @EUCommission the size of the fines will likely increase significantly before then. The EU can fine apple up to about 10% of annual global TURNOVER for noncompliance with the DMA. They can really make apple hurt.
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@EUCommission You are neither acting in the sense of consumers nor in the interests of European software businesses. The problem in this is case is *you* - the EU commission. You are hindering software innovation made in the EU.You are hindering business opportunities. Most users give a shit about third-party AI or third-party integrations. Customers are interested in devices with maximum privacy. This is what Apple stands for. The ego trip of the EU commission is hilarious. Get over it.
@zopyx @EUCommission they are literally creating business opportunities. That is the whole puprose of the DMA. Please read the laws you criticise.
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The segment doesn't need to be comparable for the point to be accurate. I have a significant expertise in machine learning and software development. Android is a Linux distribution by the way.
@traveling_mike @EUCommission Well it does, because your point is not reasonable. You’re comparing a group of two with another group of hundreds, and these groups are not the same.
Cool profession, I know many just like you. Sure, Android runs on Linux kernel, just like 60-80% of everything else, from servers to printer machines
You know what I meant, the userland. Calling Android a Linux distro is a stretch and you know it.
