Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe?
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@zsolt @algernon @EUCommission As much as I love Apple, they are for the money here and EU is for us.
@gklka @zsolt @algernon I, for one, wouldn’t mind if manufacturers would look at me as an adult, let me be wrong and learn from it.
I *hate* the erosion of ownership that is going on and that I cannot install an app without daddy Tim’s approval. I wanna own this device. But if the decision is made above my head, I cannot.
(US) Companies have too much control over our lives. I think the @EUCommission should be more aggressive.
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@timsev @kaidu @rzeta0 @Ombligoelemento @EUCommission not buy an iPhone until they release the model choice.
At least that’s what I’m planning to do
@webjac @timsev @kaidu @rzeta0 @EUCommission Yeah but if you are deep into the ecosystem and you lose your phone or it breaks, the reality is you probably end up buying another iPhone even if it’s in the second hand market. I think we should welcome this laws because it benefits the consumer, and most importantly try distinguish the bs big companies say in order to keep imposing their monopolies. And I said this being balls deep in the ecosystem and loving their hardware
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@challote @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission
1/3 of the USA is positively engaged
1/3 of the USA is bigoted plutocrat agenda manipulated morons (MAGA)
1/3 of the USA is nonvoting losers (literally, they lose). entitled, lazy perfectionists and cynics who think they care about something but they only care about their holy precious self-regard. they invent any excuse to do nothing except whine and feel superior for doing nothing@benroyce @challote @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission
All of gall is divided into three parts...
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Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight
️@EUCommission To be clear: Apple was not unable, but much rather *unwilling* to develop interoperability. This is intentional.
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@Ilka4You @EUCommission No, it’s not. For the past decade, Apple’s features alone were perfectly fine, and we never needed any third parties involved in the core functions. They should just leave it that way. Forcing this change is as absurd as requiring car manufacturers to let you swap engines from other brands, just because we’re in the EU and supposedly must have the option to choose which engine we want in our car. How stupid that would be?
@d4v 1st of all, 1 software onm a device is hardly comparable to the motor of a car. if you want to stick with this example it would be comparable to a feature like seat heating or soundsystem. Your engine would be the processor. 2nd: EU wants to protect free choice of customers, Apple wants to dominate the market by cutting laws and consumer rights.
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@EUCommission
Normally I am in heated agreement with EU style regulation but I'm not on this.VW only uses VW parts on VW cars. Do consumers have a right to buy a VW car and insist on a Toyota steering wheel? Obviously not.
@traveling_mike @EUCommission
I don't understand your argument. Anyone is allowed to fit wheels from any supplier, or battery, or many other parts that are typically supplied as an "add on". There are multiple specialist suppliers of car parts for most major models of car.
The maker of a model (not just cars) are obliged by the EU, to provide a proper spec, then any competent supplier can design their items to fit.
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Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight
️"by the way, powered by Google" and the face he makes there.
The burn ...
I see people can have fun in the European Commission, too.
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Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight
️@EUCommission I would have replaced "unable" with "unwilling" there.
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@xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission
I wouldn't migrate to Europe for anything lol America is the best country and that says a hell of a lot
@DonJon111 @xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission
These days it hardly qualifies as a civilized country any more.
- Rampant racism => Check
- Labor rights => Nada
- Universal Health Care => Nada
- Rising Fascism => Check
- Unreliable Ally => CheckIt would behoove you American Patriots all well to have a long hard look into the mirror before tossing off on any European country.
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@traveling_mike @EUCommission many parts of a VW car is not VW made. In fairness my friend has a GTI Golf with very cool modifications on it
@vanzick @traveling_mike @EUCommission
Especially the steering wheel might not be such a good example ....
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@EUCommission Can we have a legally enforceable ‘opt-out’ option for any and all “AI” slop?
@FluffyBunnikins @EUCommission
Count me in!
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@jasper89 @dazo @Paul_Harts @EUCommission
It is 99% Apple or Google. If you consider that a choice, I have a bunch of two-party political systems to sell you...
@avuko @jasper89 @dazo @Paul_Harts @EUCommission
But then Jasper89 is likely an US citizen so cannot see anything wrong with your offer....
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@DonJon111 @xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission
These days it hardly qualifies as a civilized country any more.
- Rampant racism => Check
- Labor rights => Nada
- Universal Health Care => Nada
- Rising Fascism => Check
- Unreliable Ally => CheckIt would behoove you American Patriots all well to have a long hard look into the mirror before tossing off on any European country.
@glitzersachen @xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission
Hey! You're right!
Atleast, I have the right to carry a firearm and have free-speech to defend myself from fascism>>>
This beats everything. Sorry. Get your rights up, son. I love my country
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@EUCommission
Normally I am in heated agreement with EU style regulation but I'm not on this.VW only uses VW parts on VW cars. Do consumers have a right to buy a VW car and insist on a Toyota steering wheel? Obviously not.
@traveling_mike @EUCommission Extremely non-comparable segments. One at its baseline, is transportation and the other mostly software.
You can choose between many car brands, but only two operating systems for smartphones - Android or iOS. (Linux is not yet mature and anything else is de-googled OS)
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Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight
️@EUCommission if Apple is unable to develop interoperability solutions ... I would not call this "they choose, not to deliver..."
Yes, in theory one could argue that they still could have delivered and violated some regulations.... But that's not really what anybody wants.On the other hand
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@EUCommission it's not for you to choose what options a provider give us. If we trust Apple to give us the right choice, it should be our choice as consumer to buy their products with the feature set complete.
You meddling with a free market and telling a private enterprise how they should build their products is a scary thing for a regulatory body to do.
let the market choose on its own.
@webjac @EUCommission Why don’t we flip your statement for a second. Apple chooses to enter our European market, we have rules. They do not need to be here, they can just choose to go somewhere else.
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@EUCommission it's not for you to choose what options a provider give us. If we trust Apple to give us the right choice, it should be our choice as consumer to buy their products with the feature set complete.
You meddling with a free market and telling a private enterprise how they should build their products is a scary thing for a regulatory body to do.
let the market choose on its own.
- We also tell car manufacturers that they cannot make products that pollute the air to their own liking.
- We also tell toy manufacturers that they cannot put toxic chemicals in their products.
- We also tell manufacturers of electronic devices that they cannot just slap anything together and not test them
- We also tell producers of medicine that they cannot just put whatever they want in their pills.
Regulation is quite normal - even in the US.
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@EUCommission
Normally I am in heated agreement with EU style regulation but I'm not on this.VW only uses VW parts on VW cars. Do consumers have a right to buy a VW car and insist on a Toyota steering wheel? Obviously not.
Of course I can put a different steering wheel in my car. Apple don't want to let you replace siri ai with the ai of your choice.
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@glitzersachen @xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission
Hey! You're right!
Atleast, I have the right to carry a firearm and have free-speech to defend myself from fascism>>>
This beats everything. Sorry. Get your rights up, son. I love my country
️🥳@DonJon111 @xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission
> , son.
Well, I am not your son. At least I hope so, for you. Anybody this old would be well advised to stay away from Internet commenting on politics.
> Atleast, I have the right to carry a firearm
A useful thing when civilization breaks down. More useful for you, then, than for me. You are nearer.
> and have free-speech to defend myself from fascism
Somehow you Americans seem to labor under the impression that you are the only ones in the world having free speech. LOL.
Also, what is it good for, if you are not fighting fascism, then? You take your time ... and it doesn't seem to work.
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Of course I can put a different steering wheel in my car. Apple don't want to let you replace siri ai with the ai of your choice.
@geoffl @EUCommission Good luck getting airbag to work. At the integration layer that Apple is inserting AI it is wise to restrict access to it. Apple's arguments are the correct arguments in this particular conversation.
