This is a very disturbing picture, with incredibly high numbers.
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The study sets out its eligibility criteria, which do not include that, but it is definitely plausible that the scope of the study would appeal to such men.
@neil you're right that it's not in the eligibility criteria, but it also does state a design intent to focus on men who admit to such tactics, and it explains some questions that are intended to put such people at ease to talk, though the wording of them would easily look like dog whistles to a lot of people. I'm sure it's quite bad out there, but I don't think the selection process was built with a population representative sample in mind.
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Yeah, I think there could be an equally important study into these pressuring behaviours which _didn't_ limit the examples to new partners only. I hypothesise it probably would show similar tactics in different ratios.
I don't think I'm being defensive though. I just got nerd-sniped! Badly-explained stats about gendered oppression, how could I resist
Seriously though, in my opinion the researchers undermined their own paper by the ambiguity. It's poor scicomm _and_ poor politics to leave people with a first impression different from the real findings, and a resulting batch of "well hang on a minute does it really mean that". They could have short-circuited this whole side discussion by explaining their stats better in the first place.
@unchartedworlds @bootlegrydia @kanongil @neil yes, once the conversation is about the results of a study it's important to interrogate that. A better discussion of the limitations of their study up front would have helped.
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@neil you're right that it's not in the eligibility criteria, but it also does state a design intent to focus on men who admit to such tactics, and it explains some questions that are intended to put such people at ease to talk, though the wording of them would easily look like dog whistles to a lot of people. I'm sure it's quite bad out there, but I don't think the selection process was built with a population representative sample in mind.
> I'm sure it's quite bad out there
Yes, that is very much my impression too, nuances of this specific report aside!
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@neil @Irenetherogue
from the questions, presumably that number would include any man who has used any dating app to try to meet a stranger for consentual sex.if their dating profile says "i am young and handsome," then that's already two of those sexually aggressive coercion methods.
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@Irenetherogue on the other hand, the number is well above 99% of men if nonconsentual interspecies breastfeeding ( #dairy ) is considered as rapey behaviour. excluding that type of sexual violence is bias against those mothers. so, yes, all men. @neil
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@Irenetherogue on the other hand, the number is well above 99% of men if nonconsentual interspecies breastfeeding ( #dairy ) is considered as rapey behaviour. excluding that type of sexual violence is bias against those mothers. so, yes, all men. @neil
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@Irenetherogue on the other hand, the number is well above 99% of men if nonconsentual interspecies breastfeeding ( #dairy ) is considered as rapey behaviour. excluding that type of sexual violence is bias against those mothers. so, yes, all men. @neil
Wait, what?! I'm not a fan of trivialising sexual violence against women in this way.
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Wait, what?! I'm not a fan of trivialising sexual violence against women in this way.
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Wait, what?! I'm not a fan of trivialising sexual violence against women in this way.
@neil it is just intersectionality
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@neil it is just intersectionality
Your software seems to be removing the content warnings from the thread. Given the subject, that's not good
