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  3. Men, *please* go and read this blogpost by @girlonthenet:

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  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

    Men, *please* go and read this blogpost by @girlonthenet:

    https://www.girlonthenet.com/blog/cornell/

    It discusses rape, rape culture and the recent news about Cornell University and, as usual, G lands her points clearly and compellingly. One. After. Another.

    #Cornell

    histopol@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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    #5

    @si_irini
    This should be of interesting to you, in particular for your writing

    #GangRapeAtCornell
    #Rape #Cornell #Misogyny

    https://www.girlonthenet.com/blog/cornell/https://www.girlonthenet.com/blog/cornell/

    cc
    @neil @girlonthenet

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    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #6

      @girlonthenet @brunogirin

      My thinking:

      It is a server thing, in the sense that your server is buckling under the load of the considerable sudden influx of traffic trying to grab a preview, when an account with lots of followers like yours posts a link to it.

      If you were to look in the logs for the time of your post (or mine), you'll probably see a load of traffic.

      You *might* be able to solve it with different caching, or a change in your CDN setup, but "oh well, it will be back up again soon" seems like a sensible approach too.

      Longer term, I think that the Mastodon team is on this...

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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #7

        @girlonthenet @brunogirin

        True, you are probably well covered for lots of traffic.

        But let's not detract from this excellent piece wot you have written: it is now loading, and people can read it!

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        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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          #8

          @girlonthenet

          I suspect that you heard me sigh all the way over there where you are.

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          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

            Men, *please* go and read this blogpost by @girlonthenet:

            https://www.girlonthenet.com/blog/cornell/

            It discusses rape, rape culture and the recent news about Cornell University and, as usual, G lands her points clearly and compellingly. One. After. Another.

            #Cornell

            syntaxseed@phpc.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #9

            You know what we see a lot of? Women writing posts like this.

            You know what we DON'T see *any* of?? Men writing blog posts about how they had the awkward conversation with a friend group, shut down a team mate's behaviour, or called out a colleague's sexist joke... and how awkward & uncomfortable & important & *worthwhile* that was.

            Men need to normalize this. Start by doing it, then talk about it. Then never shut up about it.

            @neil @girlonthenet

            #cornell #news #sexism

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            • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

              Men, *please* go and read this blogpost by @girlonthenet:

              https://www.girlonthenet.com/blog/cornell/

              It discusses rape, rape culture and the recent news about Cornell University and, as usual, G lands her points clearly and compellingly. One. After. Another.

              #Cornell

              rubinjoni@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #10

              @neil @girlonthenet It's weird that US universities have their own police...

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                Men, *please* go and read this blogpost by @girlonthenet:

                https://www.girlonthenet.com/blog/cornell/

                It discusses rape, rape culture and the recent news about Cornell University and, as usual, G lands her points clearly and compellingly. One. After. Another.

                #Cornell

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                #11

                @neil @girlonthenet I thought that Masto was the least likely ‘group chat’ for this problem? I’m definitely NOT in any other group chats where this might come up. I support your efforts, but if you’re likely to speak up then you are very unlikely to be in those groups in the first place.

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                  #12

                  @varx @girlonthenet this may or may not be the case so only take on board if needed, but
                  As a man
                  You need to build trust with women in your friendship circle for them to feel comfortable opening up. That's not a them problem. Men traumatise us throughout our lives so generally yes, we're going to be cagier around men.

                  If you prove you're a safe person - doesn't have to be consciously, just be one. Be kind, not one of the Lads, not thinking to yourself whether she'll bang you if you are just nice enough... And friendship naturally becomes more open.

                  None of us is owed other people's confidence. We have to work at being safe enough to receive it.

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                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                    Men, *please* go and read this blogpost by @girlonthenet:

                    https://www.girlonthenet.com/blog/cornell/

                    It discusses rape, rape culture and the recent news about Cornell University and, as usual, G lands her points clearly and compellingly. One. After. Another.

                    #Cornell

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                    #13

                    @neil @girlonthenet

                    I hope no one on this chat has experience rape. I know of two who have and I'm sure there are sadly more of my friends who have gone through the horrific ordeal but have never reported it or told their friends/family.

                    Having grown up in the 70-60s I've lived through the socially acceptable years of telling horrible/nasty racist jokes along with misogynistic/rape ones.

                    I live in hope that like smoking and drink driving the social norm will change and we listen, trust and believe the victim when they report it.

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                    • woollypigs@sudomakecake.comW woollypigs@sudomakecake.com

                      @neil @girlonthenet

                      I hope no one on this chat has experience rape. I know of two who have and I'm sure there are sadly more of my friends who have gone through the horrific ordeal but have never reported it or told their friends/family.

                      Having grown up in the 70-60s I've lived through the socially acceptable years of telling horrible/nasty racist jokes along with misogynistic/rape ones.

                      I live in hope that like smoking and drink driving the social norm will change and we listen, trust and believe the victim when they report it.

                      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #14

                      @woollypigs @girlonthenet

                      > I hope no one on this chat has experience rape.

                      G has, and has written about it:

                      https://www.girlonthenet.com/blog/stealth-1/

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                        @neil @girlonthenet I thought that Masto was the least likely ‘group chat’ for this problem? I’m definitely NOT in any other group chats where this might come up. I support your efforts, but if you’re likely to speak up then you are very unlikely to be in those groups in the first place.

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                        #15

                        @theolodian @neil it's always embarrassing when people reply to a blog post having only read the first few paragraphs, but with this one in particular... oh boy. It must be absolutely *excruciating* for you.

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                        • rubinjoni@mastodon.socialR rubinjoni@mastodon.social

                          @neil @girlonthenet It's weird that US universities have their own police...

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                          #16

                          @rubinjoni @neil Isn't it? Like... what in the world?

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                          • girlonthenet@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #17

                            @WhiteCatTamer @varx @neil yes! Very very good points.

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                            • noodlemaz@mstdn.gamesN noodlemaz@mstdn.games

                              @varx @girlonthenet this may or may not be the case so only take on board if needed, but
                              As a man
                              You need to build trust with women in your friendship circle for them to feel comfortable opening up. That's not a them problem. Men traumatise us throughout our lives so generally yes, we're going to be cagier around men.

                              If you prove you're a safe person - doesn't have to be consciously, just be one. Be kind, not one of the Lads, not thinking to yourself whether she'll bang you if you are just nice enough... And friendship naturally becomes more open.

                              None of us is owed other people's confidence. We have to work at being safe enough to receive it.

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                              #18

                              @noodlemaz @varx omg yes absolutely and completely this. Working on being a safe person - the kind of person people feel comfortable sharing these things with - is also a valuable part of dismantling the culture. And it's not easy, but it's vital to do. Thanks NM!

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                              • girlonthenet@mastodon.socialG girlonthenet@mastodon.social

                                @theolodian @neil it's always embarrassing when people reply to a blog post having only read the first few paragraphs, but with this one in particular... oh boy. It must be absolutely *excruciating* for you.

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                                #19

                                @girlonthenet @neil apologies, I’ll run AI over it first next time. 👍

                                Muted

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                                  #20

                                  @girlonthenet @neil @brunogirin a 502 is a "bad gateway", which basically means that a request went through, but there was nothing around to receive it. In cases like this, it's typically because the server is busy serving others.

                                  I don't know your hosting situation, but whomever you use, they likely have some way to scale up available resources. It might be a good idea to bump the number of available servers around new release times, or see if they support autoscaling.

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                                  • syntaxseed@phpc.socialS syntaxseed@phpc.social

                                    You know what we see a lot of? Women writing posts like this.

                                    You know what we DON'T see *any* of?? Men writing blog posts about how they had the awkward conversation with a friend group, shut down a team mate's behaviour, or called out a colleague's sexist joke... and how awkward & uncomfortable & important & *worthwhile* that was.

                                    Men need to normalize this. Start by doing it, then talk about it. Then never shut up about it.

                                    @neil @girlonthenet

                                    #cornell #news #sexism

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                                    #21

                                    @syntaxseed @neil @girlonthenet top take away for me, the CIS white male, was to say things like "that university frat thing, huh, terrible" out loud more

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                                      #22

                                      @girlonthenet yes, love this; reiterating that it's always optional.

                                      @varx There was a definite moment when my female friends started to open up to me about male violence, well before I transitioned. If I had to guess it was because I'd learned to Just Listen, not attempt to posture or problem-solve or analyse.

                                      And what I saw (with some pride) was that I had shifted in my friends' eyes into first and foremost their friend. A friend they trusted and could be honest with. Not a man they had to be guarded around. And I knew that trust came with a responsibility to do the work of both friendship and allyship.

                                      I feel that if a woman trusts you enough to tell you that she has been raped, she has already judged you as someone trustworthy, regardless of your gender. I say believe in that trust, and believe that you can be worthy of it.
                                      @neil

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                                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                        Men, *please* go and read this blogpost by @girlonthenet:

                                        https://www.girlonthenet.com/blog/cornell/

                                        It discusses rape, rape culture and the recent news about Cornell University and, as usual, G lands her points clearly and compellingly. One. After. Another.

                                        #Cornell

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                                        #23

                                        @neil yes! I wrote my own thread myself, but this from @girlonthenet is so on point:

                                        Protecting women from rape doesn’t mean swooping in like Superman to wild applause and a sense of victory, it means starting a conversation that might leave you feeling like shit.

                                        It's a horrible, gut-wrenching feeling of being That Guy. The one who "can't take a joke", or is "causing drama" or "white knighting". Who will likely be excluded from guys' conversions or nights out, who risks losing promotion prospects or friendships. For what reward? Often just the reassurance of one's own moral compass.

                                        It's the right thing nonetheless.

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                                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                          Men, *please* go and read this blogpost by @girlonthenet:

                                          https://www.girlonthenet.com/blog/cornell/

                                          It discusses rape, rape culture and the recent news about Cornell University and, as usual, G lands her points clearly and compellingly. One. After. Another.

                                          #Cornell

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                                          #24

                                          @neil @girlonthenet

                                          Read her post about rape, and that we, as men, should be doing more. A lot more.

                                          And read her linked post about Pelico. It was so much worse than anything I've read until now.

                                          And then ask yourself, as I am,

                                          "What more can I do?"

                                          And DO IT.

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