So I just read something and that makes me wonder...
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@hvangalen wow I had to look up a lot of these words but I get it. I have the phantasia, quite vivid but hard to hold in place for more than a second or two which is a pain in the ass. any thoughts I have that arent images are either in text or in speech – and the proportion seems to be affected by whether I read more book and text, or listen to more audiobook and video.
what an interesting general topic all round
@falcennial Yeah it's an interesting "affliction"! I first read about it a decade ago, blissfully unaware it was a thing. The author of the article also thought that "too see it in ones mind" was a figure of speech and not a real thing
I struggle reading books because of it. It really takes a toll to try and make sense of descriptions of environments, I just skip them but later they seemed crucial to the plot and it flies all over my head. I can read manuals and historic annals just fine.
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@spiegelmama @hvangalen What's Aphantasia?
@spiegelmama @NicksWorld No mind's eye. No ability "see things in your head". We do have an imagination, just not visually/graphically.
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@spiegelmama @NicksWorld No mind's eye. No ability "see things in your head". We do have an imagination, just not visually/graphically.
@hvangalen @spiegelmama oh, okay. I have the ability to see in my mind's eye even though I'm blind.
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@hvangalen @spiegelmama oh, okay. I have the ability to see in my mind's eye even though I'm blind.
@spiegelmama @NicksWorld This is so fascinating to me. Curious to know if you have always been blind. (I don't need an answer if you don't feel comfortable sharing)
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@spiegelmama @NicksWorld This is so fascinating to me. Curious to know if you have always been blind. (I don't need an answer if you don't feel comfortable sharing)
@hvangalen @spiegelmama Yep, born blind.
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@hvangalen @spiegelmama Yep, born blind.
@NicksWorld This is so intriguing that a blind person can have a mind's eye, but my mind's eye is blind.
The mind and body work in mysterious ways, eh
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@NicksWorld This is so intriguing that a blind person can have a mind's eye, but my mind's eye is blind.
The mind and body work in mysterious ways, eh
@hvangalen @spiegelmama It can be very vivid sometimes. I can make entire worlds in my head when I feel like it.
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So I just read something and that makes me wonder...
Do people with aphantasia (like myself) more often have an inner dialogue that is "speech-like", you know actually speaking words in a language
Or (like me), more often just "vibes" and their inner thoughts only becomes language once these need to be expressed
(I also added the options for people who have no aphantasia [have phantasia I guess] so we can compare results
)Boosting is appreciated
️@hvangalen@mastodon.nl I htink the easiest way to describe is "vibes based"
if I focus on the thinking it will take the form of a dialogue, but as I read or just exist, it'll mostly just be shapeless thoughts yeah -
So I just read something and that makes me wonder...
Do people with aphantasia (like myself) more often have an inner dialogue that is "speech-like", you know actually speaking words in a language
Or (like me), more often just "vibes" and their inner thoughts only becomes language once these need to be expressed
(I also added the options for people who have no aphantasia [have phantasia I guess] so we can compare results
)Boosting is appreciated
️I need my inner voice to shut the fuck up he’s an asshole
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I need my inner voice to shut the fuck up he’s an asshole
@banneduser Yeah I can imagine that sucks
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So I just read something and that makes me wonder...
Do people with aphantasia (like myself) more often have an inner dialogue that is "speech-like", you know actually speaking words in a language
Or (like me), more often just "vibes" and their inner thoughts only becomes language once these need to be expressed
(I also added the options for people who have no aphantasia [have phantasia I guess] so we can compare results
)Boosting is appreciated
️@hvangalen
I misread the poll and voted for number one…you can disregard. Very sorry.
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So I just read something and that makes me wonder...
Do people with aphantasia (like myself) more often have an inner dialogue that is "speech-like", you know actually speaking words in a language
Or (like me), more often just "vibes" and their inner thoughts only becomes language once these need to be expressed
(I also added the options for people who have no aphantasia [have phantasia I guess] so we can compare results
)Boosting is appreciated
️@hvangalen @mayintoronto I probably don't have aphantasia¹ and for me it's definitely in words or at least fragmented word-thoughts.
¹ I have a very good visual memory for things, as I found out when I took up recreational bicycling and reliably recognized places we'd been before, but when I picture things in my mind they're generally at least somewhat abstract and when I can reconstruct in my mind what something looks like, it's a tedious exercise, it's not a picture that snaps into being.
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@hvangalen @mayintoronto I probably don't have aphantasia¹ and for me it's definitely in words or at least fragmented word-thoughts.
¹ I have a very good visual memory for things, as I found out when I took up recreational bicycling and reliably recognized places we'd been before, but when I picture things in my mind they're generally at least somewhat abstract and when I can reconstruct in my mind what something looks like, it's a tedious exercise, it's not a picture that snaps into being.
Personally it's inconceivable to me that people are able to picture things in their mind clearly. It feels like they're lying when they make this claim. I understand intellectually that perhaps they are not, but that's how implausible it seems.
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So I just read something and that makes me wonder...
Do people with aphantasia (like myself) more often have an inner dialogue that is "speech-like", you know actually speaking words in a language
Or (like me), more often just "vibes" and their inner thoughts only becomes language once these need to be expressed
(I also added the options for people who have no aphantasia [have phantasia I guess] so we can compare results
)Boosting is appreciated
️@hvangalen Aphantasia and neither answer seems right.
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So I just read something and that makes me wonder...
Do people with aphantasia (like myself) more often have an inner dialogue that is "speech-like", you know actually speaking words in a language
Or (like me), more often just "vibes" and their inner thoughts only becomes language once these need to be expressed
(I also added the options for people who have no aphantasia [have phantasia I guess] so we can compare results
)Boosting is appreciated
️This needs to multiple choice. I an not aphantasia but sometimes its a monologue, sometimes vibes, sometimes music
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@hvangalen @mayintoronto I probably don't have aphantasia¹ and for me it's definitely in words or at least fragmented word-thoughts.
¹ I have a very good visual memory for things, as I found out when I took up recreational bicycling and reliably recognized places we'd been before, but when I picture things in my mind they're generally at least somewhat abstract and when I can reconstruct in my mind what something looks like, it's a tedious exercise, it's not a picture that snaps into being.
@mayintoronto @cks This reads like aphantasia to me, to be honest.
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Personally it's inconceivable to me that people are able to picture things in their mind clearly. It feels like they're lying when they make this claim. I understand intellectually that perhaps they are not, but that's how implausible it seems.
@cks I know right? But apparently they can and my brain can't comprehend how
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@hvangalen Aphantasia and neither answer seems right.
@ElyseMGrasso So is it a combination of things or... No inner dialogue at all?
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This needs to multiple choice. I an not aphantasia but sometimes its a monologue, sometimes vibes, sometimes music
@KanaMauna I am realising that as well. This requires more options or a multiple of polls.
Very interesting how minds work!
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@ElyseMGrasso So is it a combination of things or... No inner dialogue at all?
@hvangalen It's complicated. But dialogue is very much the wrong word for any of it, I think, since it implies questions and answers between two entities. There isn't anything to have a dialogue with: it's all just me, connecting with things and ideas and noticing 3rd party connections between exterior things and ideas. And the verbal part (there's a LOT of verbal) is at least as likely to be storytelling, narrative, as it is to be a commentary on events and my surroundings or internalities.
