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  • tiggy@mastodonapp.ukT tiggy@mastodonapp.uk

    @ChrisMayLA6
    But as the USA now have (all?) the Venezualian oil, why would they care?

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    #7

    @tiggy
    Because they want ALL the oil, especially the one sent to #China, of which #Iran's is just a part, but Zelensky is already bombing #Russia's refineries.
    #USA is a pirate state.
    @ChrisMayLA6

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    • tiggy@mastodonapp.ukT tiggy@mastodonapp.uk

      @ChrisMayLA6
      But as the USA now have (all?) the Venezualian oil, why would they care?

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      #8

      @tiggy @ChrisMayLA6
      Venezualian (?) Oil and Alberta tar sands are 'heavy crude' and require more expensive/specialized processing than the 'light crude' from the gulf.

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      • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

        So let me get this right:

        The Iranians mine much of the Strait of Hormuz, and then allow certain ships through (friendly and/or willing to pay);

        The Tangerine Tyrant claims this is 'closing' the Strait (it isn't);

        Pakistan mediated 'peace talks' fail because JD Vance refuses to budge - not negotiation, just demands for surrender;

        Now, the US says it will close the Strait - the very thing it accused Iran of doing?

        Thereby deepening the crisis the attacks on Iran caused.

        #Iran #Trump
        h/t FT

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        #9

        @ChrisMayLA6 if tge can block it and clear it of mines….?

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        • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

          So let me get this right:

          The Iranians mine much of the Strait of Hormuz, and then allow certain ships through (friendly and/or willing to pay);

          The Tangerine Tyrant claims this is 'closing' the Strait (it isn't);

          Pakistan mediated 'peace talks' fail because JD Vance refuses to budge - not negotiation, just demands for surrender;

          Now, the US says it will close the Strait - the very thing it accused Iran of doing?

          Thereby deepening the crisis the attacks on Iran caused.

          #Iran #Trump
          h/t FT

          timagal@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #10

          @ChrisMayLA6 we are back to the year 1588, a new Gravelines 🙂

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          • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

            So let me get this right:

            The Iranians mine much of the Strait of Hormuz, and then allow certain ships through (friendly and/or willing to pay);

            The Tangerine Tyrant claims this is 'closing' the Strait (it isn't);

            Pakistan mediated 'peace talks' fail because JD Vance refuses to budge - not negotiation, just demands for surrender;

            Now, the US says it will close the Strait - the very thing it accused Iran of doing?

            Thereby deepening the crisis the attacks on Iran caused.

            #Iran #Trump
            h/t FT

            timwardcam@c.imT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #11

            @ChrisMayLA6 Yeahbut what trades did he make before making this announcement?

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            • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

              So let me get this right:

              The Iranians mine much of the Strait of Hormuz, and then allow certain ships through (friendly and/or willing to pay);

              The Tangerine Tyrant claims this is 'closing' the Strait (it isn't);

              Pakistan mediated 'peace talks' fail because JD Vance refuses to budge - not negotiation, just demands for surrender;

              Now, the US says it will close the Strait - the very thing it accused Iran of doing?

              Thereby deepening the crisis the attacks on Iran caused.

              #Iran #Trump
              h/t FT

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              #12

              @ChrisMayLA6
              > Now, the US says it will close the Strait

              As negotiations in Islamabad about sharing the toll failed Trump is trying to set his own toll booth now ;))

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              • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

                So let me get this right:

                The Iranians mine much of the Strait of Hormuz, and then allow certain ships through (friendly and/or willing to pay);

                The Tangerine Tyrant claims this is 'closing' the Strait (it isn't);

                Pakistan mediated 'peace talks' fail because JD Vance refuses to budge - not negotiation, just demands for surrender;

                Now, the US says it will close the Strait - the very thing it accused Iran of doing?

                Thereby deepening the crisis the attacks on Iran caused.

                #Iran #Trump
                h/t FT

                aral@mastodon.ar.alA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #13

                @ChrisMayLA6 Worse: this’ll likely bring China into it.

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                • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

                  So let me get this right:

                  The Iranians mine much of the Strait of Hormuz, and then allow certain ships through (friendly and/or willing to pay);

                  The Tangerine Tyrant claims this is 'closing' the Strait (it isn't);

                  Pakistan mediated 'peace talks' fail because JD Vance refuses to budge - not negotiation, just demands for surrender;

                  Now, the US says it will close the Strait - the very thing it accused Iran of doing?

                  Thereby deepening the crisis the attacks on Iran caused.

                  #Iran #Trump
                  h/t FT

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                  #14

                  @ChrisMayLA6 remember: Trump is playing 4D chess with his huuuuuge intellect.

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                  • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

                    So let me get this right:

                    The Iranians mine much of the Strait of Hormuz, and then allow certain ships through (friendly and/or willing to pay);

                    The Tangerine Tyrant claims this is 'closing' the Strait (it isn't);

                    Pakistan mediated 'peace talks' fail because JD Vance refuses to budge - not negotiation, just demands for surrender;

                    Now, the US says it will close the Strait - the very thing it accused Iran of doing?

                    Thereby deepening the crisis the attacks on Iran caused.

                    #Iran #Trump
                    h/t FT

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                    #15

                    @ChrisMayLA6 Ok, so: Trump uses most of the US navy to create a rotating blockade and the necessary escorts for approved through traffic inwards and outwards.
                    Next day, China pops its navy into the Taiwan Strait, blockades inbound food, outbound chips. Uses this as a precedent for future naval placement within the Strait.
                    Good job, Donald.

                    Who knew that ‘Strait’ was going to be the annoying word of the year?

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                    • dannyreving@mastodon.socialD dannyreving@mastodon.social

                      @ChrisMayLA6 remember: Trump is playing 4D chess with his huuuuuge intellect.

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                      #16

                      @dannyreving @ChrisMayLA6 He holds all the cards. Sadly those cards a a 6 of diamonds, a Mr Bun the Baker, a football card of Ronaldo, and a dog-eared Magic the Gathering juju bubble.

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                      • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

                        So let me get this right:

                        The Iranians mine much of the Strait of Hormuz, and then allow certain ships through (friendly and/or willing to pay);

                        The Tangerine Tyrant claims this is 'closing' the Strait (it isn't);

                        Pakistan mediated 'peace talks' fail because JD Vance refuses to budge - not negotiation, just demands for surrender;

                        Now, the US says it will close the Strait - the very thing it accused Iran of doing?

                        Thereby deepening the crisis the attacks on Iran caused.

                        #Iran #Trump
                        h/t FT

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                        #17

                        @ChrisMayLA6 @EF You’re saying it like anything Trump says is supposed to make sense.

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                        • bashstkid@mastodon.onlineB bashstkid@mastodon.online

                          @ChrisMayLA6 Ok, so: Trump uses most of the US navy to create a rotating blockade and the necessary escorts for approved through traffic inwards and outwards.
                          Next day, China pops its navy into the Taiwan Strait, blockades inbound food, outbound chips. Uses this as a precedent for future naval placement within the Strait.
                          Good job, Donald.

                          Who knew that ‘Strait’ was going to be the annoying word of the year?

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                          #18

                          @BashStKid @ChrisMayLA6

                          Trump puts most of his navy in close reach of Iranian drones and missiles, not having leaned from Russians experience.....

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                          • bashstkid@mastodon.onlineB bashstkid@mastodon.online

                            @ChrisMayLA6 Ok, so: Trump uses most of the US navy to create a rotating blockade and the necessary escorts for approved through traffic inwards and outwards.
                            Next day, China pops its navy into the Taiwan Strait, blockades inbound food, outbound chips. Uses this as a precedent for future naval placement within the Strait.
                            Good job, Donald.

                            Who knew that ‘Strait’ was going to be the annoying word of the year?

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                            #19

                            @BashStKid

                            1. 3900 ships pass thru Hormuz or 130 per day or about 1000 per week.
                            2. The 5th Fleet has between 15 and 35 ships at any one time.
                            3. It takes between 2 - 3 hours to transit under normal conditions.
                            4. How are 35 US Navy ships, including fuel, supply, and personnel transport ships, supposed to accompany and defend slow moving tankers filled with flammable liquid in a narrow passage filled with mines, drones, and missiles?
                            5. Are US Navy ships entering Hormuz?
                            6. What if any ship refuses US escort? Because it identifies them as a willing stooge of the US.

                            @ChrisMayLA6

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