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  • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

    @hhttg I rant too, no problem!
    Meanwhile I'm so angry: yes, i had the same problem with the character limit, I tried 3 times to post something under 500 characters in vain.
    To publish such a slop version ... wait, perhaps it was vibe coding? 🥶

    @MastodonEngineering @Mastodon @staff

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    #26

    @NatureMC @MastodonEngineering @Mastodon @staff

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    • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

      @NatureMC Hah 🙂 From this update it seems @MastodonEngineering also prefers the not-social model of social-media Bluesky is designed for.

      @Mastodon @staff

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      @Pepijn @NatureMC

      You are both on mastodon.online. That server runs version "v4.8.0-nightly.2026-10-05", which sounds a little too on-the-edge for a 8K user instance.

      Version "v4.7.3" is the latest official release:

      https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/releases

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      • hhttg@mastodon.onlineH hhttg@mastodon.online

        @NatureMC @MastodonEngineering @Mastodon @staff
        Same here. Besides being totally non-intuitiv I can't find today's trends which I've activated in the preferences. And to write a new toot I need to click on the "New post" button on the left which opens the edit window on the right of the screen. Who thought this was a great idea? The new UI just looks like a colossal waste of space.

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        #28

        @hhttg @NatureMC @MastodonEngineering @Mastodon @staff …That's odd, the lower-right corner had a smaller button to open the composer in the mockups they showed off a couple months ago

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        • mjack@mastodon.bsd.cafeM mjack@mastodon.bsd.cafe

          @Pepijn @NatureMC

          You are both on mastodon.online. That server runs version "v4.8.0-nightly.2026-10-05", which sounds a little too on-the-edge for a 8K user instance.

          Version "v4.7.3" is the latest official release:

          https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/releases

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          #29

          @mjack I know that they test every new version on our instance. Therefore, I rant at once that they see what they did. 😉
          They plan it for all .... https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/08/5.0-laying-the-foundation/

          @Pepijn

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          • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

            @mjack I know that they test every new version on our instance. Therefore, I rant at once that they see what they did. 😉
            They plan it for all .... https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/08/5.0-laying-the-foundation/

            @Pepijn

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            #30

            @NatureMC @Pepijn

            I've never noticed the difference between mastodon.social and mastodon.online before, but if they are using mastodon.online as a test bed, that should be shown prominently on the About page. I don't think:

            "A newer server of Mastodon, operated by Mastodon GmbH for the common good"

            quite covers it.

            https://mastodon.online/about

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            • mjack@mastodon.bsd.cafeM mjack@mastodon.bsd.cafe

              @NatureMC @Pepijn

              I've never noticed the difference between mastodon.social and mastodon.online before, but if they are using mastodon.online as a test bed, that should be shown prominently on the About page. I don't think:

              "A newer server of Mastodon, operated by Mastodon GmbH for the common good"

              quite covers it.

              https://mastodon.online/about

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              #31

              @mjack I have no influence on it (both instances are run by Mastodon, and are the first for changings). https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/08/5.0-laying-the-foundation/

              Give your critics directly to the responsables like @imanijoy or @MastodonEngineering

              @Pepijn

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              • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                /2
                Clicking Quotes opens now to extern servers, that I have to put the URLs into search to interact with the original?
                I can't edit alt texts?? (Or I'm just too bad to find all this stuff)

                @MastodonEngineering @Mastodon @staff

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                #32

                @NatureMC @MastodonEngineering @Mastodon @staff @imanijoy hi! What happens when you try to edit alt text? I can't reproduce that issue here

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                • hhttg@mastodon.onlineH hhttg@mastodon.online

                  @NatureMC @MastodonEngineering @Mastodon @staff
                  Sorry, @NatureMC,for ranting against the UI here in your thread. I'm just in shock and anger.
                  Besides I had to cut my previous post because the UI kept telling me that using 480 of 500 text characters is just too long 😒.

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                  #33

                  @hhttg @NatureMC @Mastodon @staff This looks like a bug, could you send a screenshot of the composer when this happens, if you are able to reproduce?

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                  • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                    @hhttg I rant too, no problem!
                    Meanwhile I'm so angry: yes, i had the same problem with the character limit, I tried 3 times to post something under 500 characters in vain.
                    To publish such a slop version ... wait, perhaps it was vibe coding? 🥶

                    @MastodonEngineering @Mastodon @staff

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                    #34

                    @NatureMC @hhttg We do not use AI, and the team has been running this version for some weeks. This is very likely a bug that nobody hit yet, if we know how to reproduce it, it will get fixed.

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                    • C clearlyclaire@mastodon.online

                      @NatureMC @MastodonEngineering @Mastodon @staff @imanijoy hi! What happens when you try to edit alt text? I can't reproduce that issue here

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                      #35

                      @ClearlyClaire I usually clicked 'edit' on the post, could edit this, and by clicking the alttext buttons edit those. At the moment, the button for the alttexts are no more clickable in edit mode. (Browser version, PC)

                      @MastodonEngineering @Mastodon @staff @imanijoy

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                      • renchap@oisaur.comR renchap@oisaur.com

                        @NatureMC @hhttg We do not use AI, and the team has been running this version for some weeks. This is very likely a bug that nobody hit yet, if we know how to reproduce it, it will get fixed.

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                        #36

                        @renchap @hhttg Thanks for answering so quickly. There are even more bugs. I try to get a screenshot!

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                        • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                          @renchap @hhttg Thanks for answering so quickly. There are even more bugs. I try to get a screenshot!

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                          #37

                          @NatureMC @hhttg If you are able to, please post those on GitHub. We are working on setting up another place to report bugs and feedback without a GitHub account.

                          We enabled the new design on mastodon.online this morning as we feel like it’s nearly-ready, and plan to enable it on mastodon.social soon

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                          • renchap@oisaur.comR renchap@oisaur.com

                            @NatureMC @hhttg If you are able to, please post those on GitHub. We are working on setting up another place to report bugs and feedback without a GitHub account.

                            We enabled the new design on mastodon.online this morning as we feel like it’s nearly-ready, and plan to enable it on mastodon.social soon

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                            #38

                            @NatureMC @hhttg Also it has not been developed in the dark, Imani ran a Discovery week open to all (https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/08/discovery-week-2026-what-we-learned-and-what-were-doing-next/), then wrote about the direction (https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/08/5.0-laying-the-foundation/) and did a feedback round last week with the people who volunteered.

                            There will be a blog post later this week with explanations about some choices and more details about why some things are changing

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                            • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                              @ClearlyClaire I usually clicked 'edit' on the post, could edit this, and by clicking the alttext buttons edit those. At the moment, the button for the alttexts are no more clickable in edit mode. (Browser version, PC)

                              @MastodonEngineering @Mastodon @staff @imanijoy

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                              #39

                              @NatureMC @MastodonEngineering @Mastodon @staff @imanijoy ah! I think I understand! the “alt” badge is not clickable, but is the option still available in the “…” menu?

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                              • renchap@oisaur.comR renchap@oisaur.com

                                @NatureMC @hhttg If you are able to, please post those on GitHub. We are working on setting up another place to report bugs and feedback without a GitHub account.

                                We enabled the new design on mastodon.online this morning as we feel like it’s nearly-ready, and plan to enable it on mastodon.social soon

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                                #40

                                @renchap Sorry, I'm not on GITHub and I'm absolutely not IT-affin, just a user.

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                                • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                  @renchap Sorry, I'm not on GITHub and I'm absolutely not IT-affin, just a user.

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                                  @NatureMC Then you can tag me and I will relay those to the team 🙂

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                                  • C clearlyclaire@mastodon.online

                                    @NatureMC @MastodonEngineering @Mastodon @staff @imanijoy ah! I think I understand! the “alt” badge is not clickable, but is the option still available in the “…” menu?

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                                    #42

                                    @ClearlyClaire Are you from the Mastodon team? Then I will tag you when posting my screenshots.

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                                    • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                      @ClearlyClaire Are you from the Mastodon team? Then I will tag you when posting my screenshots.

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                                      @NatureMC I am; not on the front-end team though

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                                      • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                        I just got a shock. I want the old design back!!! 😭
                                        It was a matter of seconds, and the Design of #Mastodon changed.

                                        Usually, I have nothing against design changes. But if it hits me so unprepared that I think my browser has a bug ...
                                        A real bug is that I have to make an extra click for writing a post now and get a much too small pop up field down at the right (not at eye's height)! I have to search for notifications ... it's less intuitive than before.

                                        @MastodonEngineering @Mastodon @staff

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                                        @NatureMC @MastodonEngineering I was like, how bad can it be? But on my large monitor, it is a very jarring waste of half the screen real estate. In dark mode, half or more of the screen is black, on either side of the feed.

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                                        • jmmaok@mastodon.onlineJ jmmaok@mastodon.online

                                          @NatureMC @MastodonEngineering I was like, how bad can it be? But on my large monitor, it is a very jarring waste of half the screen real estate. In dark mode, half or more of the screen is black, on either side of the feed.

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                                          #45

                                          @NatureMC @MastodonEngineering

                                          Also, when clicking New Post, the box opens up about *two feet (60cm)* from the New Post button!

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