We're getting a new cheese box!
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We're getting a new cheese box!
For real: it's so chill to do adulting by commission
One of us (the working group) researches the matter. Eventually they prepare a short presentation outlining requirements and offering a limited number of options.Then together (management group) we.. just decide without having an existential crisis about accidentally buying the wrong cheese box and destroying all hope for future happiness of humanity. It's nice.
@Pepijn does the working group only do online research? Or are products physically researched as well?
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@Pepijn does the working group only do online research? Or are products physically researched as well?
@martijn_geerdes Fully depends on the working group and the product. This one was a combination.
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We're getting a new cheese box!
For real: it's so chill to do adulting by commission
One of us (the working group) researches the matter. Eventually they prepare a short presentation outlining requirements and offering a limited number of options.Then together (management group) we.. just decide without having an existential crisis about accidentally buying the wrong cheese box and destroying all hope for future happiness of humanity. It's nice.
@Pepijn (btw but curious... last time, which doll did Hobbit get in the end and was the board satisfy with that ?
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@Pepijn (btw but curious... last time, which doll did Hobbit get in the end and was the board satisfy with that ?
@markiejiang Hah
We went for 'Lillan' (the end-user instantly renamed it to 'poppy', not sure why. Edit: Juliette explains below). One important distinction between what is stated on the slide: 'Poppy' does NOT talk as the board unanimously decided to rip out that functionality.
https://mastodon.online/@Pepijn/116404800356033646
The board and the Hobbit end-user are still very satisfied with the choice.
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We're getting a new cheese box!
For real: it's so chill to do adulting by commission
One of us (the working group) researches the matter. Eventually they prepare a short presentation outlining requirements and offering a limited number of options.Then together (management group) we.. just decide without having an existential crisis about accidentally buying the wrong cheese box and destroying all hope for future happiness of humanity. It's nice.
Why we implemented this fun system of consumerism.
@juliette and I usually align on what we choose, but operate differently in how we choose.
I'm a person who puts a pen a little bit sideways before going to bed. That way the next morning I remember to do XYZ.
Juliette is a person who for no reason at all puts a pen a little bit sideways and until she needs a pen never again thinks of pens, let alone this one.
This difference in operational methodology can create friction.
1/3
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Why we implemented this fun system of consumerism.
@juliette and I usually align on what we choose, but operate differently in how we choose.
I'm a person who puts a pen a little bit sideways before going to bed. That way the next morning I remember to do XYZ.
Juliette is a person who for no reason at all puts a pen a little bit sideways and until she needs a pen never again thinks of pens, let alone this one.
This difference in operational methodology can create friction.
1/3
@Pepijn (“Juliette has ADHD, Pepijn doesn’t”)
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Why we implemented this fun system of consumerism.
@juliette and I usually align on what we choose, but operate differently in how we choose.
I'm a person who puts a pen a little bit sideways before going to bed. That way the next morning I remember to do XYZ.
Juliette is a person who for no reason at all puts a pen a little bit sideways and until she needs a pen never again thinks of pens, let alone this one.
This difference in operational methodology can create friction.
1/3
Both approaches have their benefits: mine helps to remember things without at all feeling stressed about forgetting something. Juliette's method often causes her to be a bit worried about forgetting things but at least she doesn't stress out by having random pens being a bit sideways Not In Their Correct Spot.
When it comes to picking a new cheese box: Juliette can easily just browse some offers, not know all the facts of all the offers, and then pick an ok one. All in ten minutes.
2/3
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Both approaches have their benefits: mine helps to remember things without at all feeling stressed about forgetting something. Juliette's method often causes her to be a bit worried about forgetting things but at least she doesn't stress out by having random pens being a bit sideways Not In Their Correct Spot.
When it comes to picking a new cheese box: Juliette can easily just browse some offers, not know all the facts of all the offers, and then pick an ok one. All in ten minutes.
2/3
My approach is different. I'll spend some time looking at various cheese boxes but am likely to get interested in the history of cheese boxes as well.
So eventually I end up doing quick side quests, ending up on Wikipedia, reading how the proto-French already used goat-wood honey-lined boxes to store dairy, before returning to browser tab #15 for the Mepal box.
At which point Juliette is both interested, ready to murder me, and utterly lost.
And that's why we now use powerpoint.
3/3
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@markiejiang Hah
We went for 'Lillan' (the end-user instantly renamed it to 'poppy', not sure why. Edit: Juliette explains below). One important distinction between what is stated on the slide: 'Poppy' does NOT talk as the board unanimously decided to rip out that functionality.
https://mastodon.online/@Pepijn/116404800356033646
The board and the Hobbit end-user are still very satisfied with the choice.
@Pepijn @markiejiang we know why it was renamed “Poppy”: the French word for doll is “poupée” and it kinda sounds the same, and interpreting it as Poppy is vastly superior to “poopy” which is what the Hobbit sounded like at first.
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@Pepijn (“Juliette has ADHD, Pepijn doesn’t”)
@juliette That really might be part of it right?
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@juliette That really might be part of it right?
@Pepijn you think?
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We're getting a new cheese box!
For real: it's so chill to do adulting by commission
One of us (the working group) researches the matter. Eventually they prepare a short presentation outlining requirements and offering a limited number of options.Then together (management group) we.. just decide without having an existential crisis about accidentally buying the wrong cheese box and destroying all hope for future happiness of humanity. It's nice.
@Pepijn I can imagine that making cheese-related decisions are difficult in a French-Dutch couple. We smuggled a Tefal one when coming back from holidays in France because we don't trust Dutch brands with our Époisses.
PS: I'm with @juliette here: How do you expect us to notice the presence of a pen? -
Why we implemented this fun system of consumerism.
@juliette and I usually align on what we choose, but operate differently in how we choose.
I'm a person who puts a pen a little bit sideways before going to bed. That way the next morning I remember to do XYZ.
Juliette is a person who for no reason at all puts a pen a little bit sideways and until she needs a pen never again thinks of pens, let alone this one.
This difference in operational methodology can create friction.
1/3
How did you arrive at the system with a pen slightly askew instead of, say, using the pen to write a note of things to remember?
It seems like a really fragile system, especially with hobbits around, so I expect this was deviced before that event?
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@juliette That really might be part of it right?
@Pepijn @juliette My wife and I have a similar set of characteristics.
We’ve eventually arrived at the following methodology:
0. Some decision is needed
1. one of us brings it up.
A) one of us has strong views on the matter > they share them
B) no one has strong views
2. The matter rests for a while
3. one of us feels like taking the decision. If it’s big, we do another review loop
4. One of us goes and does the thing. The other person doesn’t complain about how they did it. -
@Pepijn @juliette My wife and I have a similar set of characteristics.
We’ve eventually arrived at the following methodology:
0. Some decision is needed
1. one of us brings it up.
A) one of us has strong views on the matter > they share them
B) no one has strong views
2. The matter rests for a while
3. one of us feels like taking the decision. If it’s big, we do another review loop
4. One of us goes and does the thing. The other person doesn’t complain about how they did it. -
@CarstenBoll It very much much pre-dates the existence of our hobbit and even our cohabitation. As far as I remember this is how I have always done things. It's faster than writing and easier to implement.
Slightly askew pens are just an example of the method. Other ways are stacking items etc.
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@CarstenBoll It very much much pre-dates the existence of our hobbit and even our cohabitation. As far as I remember this is how I have always done things. It's faster than writing and easier to implement.
Slightly askew pens are just an example of the method. Other ways are stacking items etc.
My partner's system is to keep it all in memory and feeling overwhelmed and exhausted about it.
My system is to write it down and then forget about it, or - my best system yet - do it immediately, as in RIGHT NOW.
I will sometimes be asked to think about something for a few days, which does not ever happen. I can think about it now, spend a few hours diving into it if it's important enough for that and then make a decision, or I can forget about it until some calendar event reminds me to think about it again.
On the plus side I am very good at making decisions - I will think about it for some period of time determined by the importance of the decision, then I will make a decision, and I will never doubt that decision or consider it again.
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My approach is different. I'll spend some time looking at various cheese boxes but am likely to get interested in the history of cheese boxes as well.
So eventually I end up doing quick side quests, ending up on Wikipedia, reading how the proto-French already used goat-wood honey-lined boxes to store dairy, before returning to browser tab #15 for the Mepal box.
At which point Juliette is both interested, ready to murder me, and utterly lost.
And that's why we now use powerpoint.
3/3
@Pepijn enjoyed this although I don't know why.
I never put a pen sideways (sideways to what??) on purpose and it would not at all do anything.So you chose the Mepal box?
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@Pepijn *staring at my round coffee table, eyes twitching*
I like the things I have from Mepal. They are very square-y! And as I don't need it on my coffee table that's handy.
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@Pepijn *staring at my round coffee table, eyes twitching*
I like the things I have from Mepal. They are very square-y! And as I don't need it on my coffee table that's handy.
@Pepijn also, I had to laugh at 'we don't have much choice' after you told us about your carefully researched presentation to choose the cheese box
