I feel I have to block negative people.
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cynicism is cognitively easy
hope takes cognitive effort
cynics are just lazy, and resent people telling them to work harder mentally
they would rather accept abuse (which is all cynicism is: rationalizing one's own oppression) than do the little extra work required to have a heart
and so to someone invested in this approach, anyone with hope is hated more than the oppressor
hope makes them aware of their cognitive sunk cost in their own subjugation
hope is a threat
@benroyce @QasimRashid
Hopefully they eventually get tired of being wrong. The cost shows up when we let uncertainty rise while resisting the urge to instantly snap to moral judgment. Moralizing is cheap, and that is the trap. Moral language turns debate into a self-reinforcing loop that shows people only what they want to see. It swaps symbolic wins for the harder work of revising beliefs, even when people know they are wrong.Recovering from the loop is expensive. It often means breaking rules you thought were absolute, at least for a while. From the inside, where things already feel out of control but manageable, that can look wasteful or even insane.
Until roles and institutions are rebuilt, symbolic conflict is the cheapest way to stabilize. That is why it stays the default.
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It's coming though. Saw a few purity posts today criticizing what they have labeled Blue MAGA and advocating not voting for any Democrats that aren't sufficiently leftist because "They're all the same."
Swear this nonsense is just a rerun of 2024, and plenty of folks are on board.
It's the primaries, so yeah, elect better Dems, but this 'I'm not going to vote stuff' is ridiculous and dangerous.
@mastodonmigration @QasimRashid
not voting, and thus helping fascists win, in the name of scolding someone for not being ideologically pure
this isn't the left doing this, this is someone with ego masturbation needs. they may call themselves left, but they are not. they have self-serving psychological goals, not community-serving ideological goals
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@benroyce @QasimRashid
Hopefully they eventually get tired of being wrong. The cost shows up when we let uncertainty rise while resisting the urge to instantly snap to moral judgment. Moralizing is cheap, and that is the trap. Moral language turns debate into a self-reinforcing loop that shows people only what they want to see. It swaps symbolic wins for the harder work of revising beliefs, even when people know they are wrong.Recovering from the loop is expensive. It often means breaking rules you thought were absolute, at least for a while. From the inside, where things already feel out of control but manageable, that can look wasteful or even insane.
Until roles and institutions are rebuilt, symbolic conflict is the cheapest way to stabilize. That is why it stays the default.
it would be ironic of me to argue against your hopeful words
all i will say is: never underestimate the commitment of the stubborn fool to resisting admitting they are wrong
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I feel I have to block negative people. Who come into my mentions with "I agree with you but you are f***ing stupid if you think Trump will face justice."
As James Baldwin reminds us, "I never have been in despair about the world. I’ve been enraged by it. I don’t think I’m in despair. I can’t afford despair. I can’t tell my nephew, my niece. You can’t tell the children there’s no hope."
Do not despair my friends. Be angry. Stay angry. But be not hopeless. We will get through this. We will.
@QasimRashid 被”泼冷水“后，何必屏蔽呢？看看他们如何想，如何变，也是世事观察的一条途径吧。
Why block out the cynical comments? Observing how they think and how they change is also a way to observe the world. -
@mastodonmigration @QasimRashid
not voting, and thus helping fascists win, in the name of scolding someone for not being ideologically pure
this isn't the left doing this, this is someone with ego masturbation needs. they may call themselves left, but they are not. they have self-serving psychological goals, not community-serving ideological goals
@benroyce @mastodonmigration @QasimRashid Or fake accounts trying to sway the elections.
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it would be ironic of me to argue against your hopeful words
all i will say is: never underestimate the commitment of the stubborn fool to resisting admitting they are wrong
@benroyce @QasimRashid No argument there, I've been foolish all my life. Only way I can speak of this at all.
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@benroyce @mastodonmigration @QasimRashid Or fake accounts trying to sway the elections.
@hosford42 @mastodonmigration @QasimRashid
yeah
1. ai chatbot
2. MAGA/ geopolitical trollfarm cosplaying left for toxic idealism psyop
3. entitled ego masturbation losers
who knows what these "don't vote" dingbats are?
i've stopped trying to figure it out
they just need to be opposed, period
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@benroyce @QasimRashid No argument there, I've been foolish all my life. Only way I can speak of this at all.
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a final signoff:
If you want to get through hell, you have to go straight through it and come out the other side. Don’t turn back... But don’t settle in, either. Because if you finally escape and all you’ve done is become perfectly adapted to hell; You haven’t made it out at all. You’ve just carried it with you into the next room.
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@benroyce @mastodonmigration @QasimRashid Or fake accounts trying to sway the elections.
@hosford42 @benroyce @QasimRashid
Some may be Russian trolls, and we certainly can expect these to be active because it has worked so well in the past, but certainly not all. Somehow these folks equate 'not voting' with strength and fighting hard for their principles. That their action (or inaction) actually hurts, and maybe kills, the people they profess to be fighting for is less important to them than this demonstration of 'character.'
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@mastodonmigration @QasimRashid
not voting, and thus helping fascists win, in the name of scolding someone for not being ideologically pure
this isn't the left doing this, this is someone with ego masturbation needs. they may call themselves left, but they are not. they have self-serving psychological goals, not community-serving ideological goals
Yes, outsized ego is certainly consistent with the syndrome.
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I feel I have to block negative people. Who come into my mentions with "I agree with you but you are f***ing stupid if you think Trump will face justice."
As James Baldwin reminds us, "I never have been in despair about the world. I’ve been enraged by it. I don’t think I’m in despair. I can’t afford despair. I can’t tell my nephew, my niece. You can’t tell the children there’s no hope."
Do not despair my friends. Be angry. Stay angry. But be not hopeless. We will get through this. We will.
@QasimRashid this
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@mastodonmigration @QasimRashid
not voting, and thus helping fascists win, in the name of scolding someone for not being ideologically pure
this isn't the left doing this, this is someone with ego masturbation needs. they may call themselves left, but they are not. they have self-serving psychological goals, not community-serving ideological goals
@benroyce @mastodonmigration @QasimRashid
I'm sort of inclined to another extreme, that is, vote and do more than vote. Move the party to become the vehicle for people that it should be.
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@hosford42 @mastodonmigration @QasimRashid
yeah
1. ai chatbot
2. MAGA/ geopolitical trollfarm cosplaying left for toxic idealism psyop
3. entitled ego masturbation losers
who knows what these "don't vote" dingbats are?
i've stopped trying to figure it out
they just need to be opposed, period
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I feel I have to block negative people. Who come into my mentions with "I agree with you but you are f***ing stupid if you think Trump will face justice."
As James Baldwin reminds us, "I never have been in despair about the world. I’ve been enraged by it. I don’t think I’m in despair. I can’t afford despair. I can’t tell my nephew, my niece. You can’t tell the children there’s no hope."
Do not despair my friends. Be angry. Stay angry. But be not hopeless. We will get through this. We will.
@QasimRashid 🥰
indeed
there will be justice
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@sruba @hosford42 @mastodonmigration @QasimRashid
are you unable to vote? are there legal reasons or perhaps you have a physical, social, or economic reason why you cannot vote?
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@benroyce @mastodonmigration @QasimRashid
I'm sort of inclined to another extreme, that is, vote and do more than vote. Move the party to become the vehicle for people that it should be.
@unruly @mastodonmigration @QasimRashid
oh yeah absolutely
nothing about my championing of voting means i'm saying only vote
you do it all
meanwhile, anyone saying do all the good things except don't vote on the other hand, is a moron
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Yes, outsized ego is certainly consistent with the syndrome.
@mastodonmigration @benroyce @QasimRashid
I always think of the Sanders to Trump voters when the purists come out. They always have a reason, I’m just not sure it’s always the one they give.
https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-trump-2016-election-654320
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@hosford42 @benroyce @QasimRashid
Some may be Russian trolls, and we certainly can expect these to be active because it has worked so well in the past, but certainly not all. Somehow these folks equate 'not voting' with strength and fighting hard for their principles. That their action (or inaction) actually hurts, and maybe kills, the people they profess to be fighting for is less important to them than this demonstration of 'character.'
@mastodonmigration @hosford42 @QasimRashid
they are entitled people
they will not suffer the immediate effects (they will eventually suffer negative effects, but they don't know/ don't care)
thus they allow themselves to view the topic of voting as an abstract concept, and have abstract ineffectual attitudes that only serve their sense of self-regard. they certainly don't serve their community
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@mastodonmigration @benroyce @QasimRashid
I always think of the Sanders to Trump voters when the purists come out. They always have a reason, I’m just not sure it’s always the one they give.
https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-trump-2016-election-654320
@fsinn @mastodonmigration @QasimRashid
i voted for sanders in the primary
i gave him money
then of course, i voted for hillary in the general
because i'm not stupid
anyone on a sanders -> trump track is somewhere like a tankie: they aren't a real leftist, they are closet fascists
but we can ignore types like me, and tankies, because the problem now is people who just don't vote. they're a different kind of person. they're entitled
