Consequences for the recent LLM vote seem to have arrived for Debian... automated slop reviews: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2026/10/msg00263.html

[joeyh@sunbeam.city]

@cwebber @tusharhero Well, one of my main regrets is that I didn't object to debian's GR process (and the entire debian constitution) early on, despite seeing how it would lead to bad things. (Never imagined this of course.)

So good on them for being a principled process objector, I guess. Sorta. 1% at least

[hakona@im.alstadheim.no]

@cwebber This, together with the churn of updates (php,node,kernel ... ) . I can feel this is wearing my enthusiasm down. @josch

[be@floss.social]

@cwebber @josch It really seems to be a nazi bar problem. Give the sloperators a millimetere and they take a light year.

[emma@orbital.horse]

@be @cwebber @josch and it's clear the leadership has been wanting to make Linux into a Nazi bar for a long time now.

[eschwartz@fosstodon.org]

@josch @cwebber

#Gentoo remains committed to the stance that using LLM assistance to contribute modifications to official Gentoo projects (including but not limited to, the package recipes, package manager and linting software, infrastructure and developer services, documentation, etc.) is a violation of the social contract and bannable as bad behavior rather than as legal/copyright issues.

New human contributors always welcome...

[be@floss.social]

@cwebber @josch Debian is repeating the nazi bar process that Bevy went through. It doesn't matter if the official statement explicitly puts some limitation on LLM usage or promotion; as long as any usage is allowed, all restrictions get ignored by boosters and that gets tolerated. https://blog.fallible.net/it-breaks-a-village/

[civodul@toot.aquilenet.fr]

@cwebber @josch Sadness.

The argument about improving tools like Lintian instead of dismissing them in favor of those services is exactly what I feared would happen in Guix without a proper policy in place: that people would stop improving ‘guix lint’, ‘guix refresh’, etc. as they move to LLMs.

I’m “glad” that prediction wasn’t overblown, but I’d be happier if Debian hadn’t tested it!

[csepp@merveilles.town]

@cwebber "As if what the world needed was yet another blogpost about LLMs and AI tech."
Well I'm glad you wrote it because this was such a fucking excellent read. Thanks Christine.
Especially loved the transit infrastructure analogy at the end.

[thaodan@mastodon.social]

@cwebber @josch Part of the problem is that there are two camps of the AI users who don't even hear any of the issues with it.
Those two are: the one's who push the technology/the SaaS products and the others are the ones who can't program or just started.
Both have different reasons why they don't want to listen but the first has an incentive that the 2nd one doesn't listen either.
It's really frustrating to interact with people who normalize vibe coding.

[dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org]

@cwebber @tusharhero @joeyh @josch

Even though I'd like to see a statement banning LLM contributions more generally even if the copyright issue is resolved, I'll take this ban as sufficient for the moment. If this ban can hold for a year or so, we'll likely see the financial AIpocalypse and it will be easier to get a more principled policy. Meanwhile I can start working on switching my laptop.

[josch@floss.social]

@joeyh I am looking forward to reading where you will end up. I am a big admirer of your work and "using the distro Joey is using" is something I am considering for my life after Debian. @cwebber

[josch@floss.social]

@eschwartz I am absolutely eying Gentoo. When I introduced the concept of build profiles in Debian 13 years ago (lol time flies), I was shamelessly getting myself inspired by Gentoo USE flags.
https://wiki.debian.org/BuildProfileSpec
@cwebber