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  • adamhotep@infosec.exchangeA adamhotep@infosec.exchange

    @neurovagrant people still haven't learned after all that ransomware. Back it up and/or employ snapshots. I'm a big fan of ZFS snapshots.

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    #89

    @adamhotep @neurovagrant Because they were lucky enough to have usable backups.

    Stress "lucky."

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    • quinn@social.circl.luQ quinn@social.circl.lu

      @Viss @neurovagrant Letsss goooooo

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      #90

      @quinn @Viss @neurovagrant

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      • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

        @quinn @Viss @neurovagrant

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        #91

        @drwho @quinn @neurovagrant so i just went and squinted at the screenshot inside the screenshot

        dude doesnt know what a sandbox is.

        if the shit can reach your home directory, its not in a sandbox.

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        • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

          the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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          #92
          #neverslop
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          • dch@bsd.networkD dch@bsd.network

            @neurovagrant also, people still not doing backups/restore testing, no zfs, no jails / containers / other restrictions. Kids these days.

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            #93

            @dch @neurovagrant There are folks who don't even know what removable storage is, let alone file systems or files.

            "Just rebuild."

            Great. That's the OS. What about the data?

            There's probably a "chased by an angry goose" meme to make here.

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            • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

              @drwho @quinn @neurovagrant so i just went and squinted at the screenshot inside the screenshot

              dude doesnt know what a sandbox is.

              if the shit can reach your home directory, its not in a sandbox.

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              #94

              @Viss @quinn @neurovagrant Given his previous business history, this surprises not at all.

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              • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                @Viss @quinn @neurovagrant Given his previous business history, this surprises not at all.

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                #95

                @drwho @Viss @neurovagrant he probably makes more in a month than i will ever make

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                • quinn@social.circl.luQ quinn@social.circl.lu

                  @drwho @Viss @neurovagrant he probably makes more in a month than i will ever make

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                  #96

                  @quinn @drwho @neurovagrant oh, hes a cryptobro. no wonder

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                  • quinn@social.circl.luQ quinn@social.circl.lu

                    @drwho @Viss @neurovagrant he probably makes more in a month than i will ever make

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                    #97

                    @quinn @Viss @neurovagrant Same.

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                    • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                      @neurovagrant In 2005, we had a rookie security consultant doing a penetration test for our client. To demonstrate that the client's app was vulnerable to SQL injection, he ran drop table users; via injection.

                      Twenty years of progress means we can make the rookie mistakes faster and with fewer employees.

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                      #98

                      @paco @neurovagrant imho, if LLMs are what make developers finally care about cybersecurity, that's the first thing about them one might consider 'good'

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                      • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                        @rail @paco @neurovagrant Depends on how aggro the client wants to be.

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                        #99

                        Also depends on how well written your contact with the client is.

                        @drwho @rail @paco @neurovagrant

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                        • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                          the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                          #100

                          @neurovagrant I'm pushed to use claude at work... Three possible takeaways from this:

                          1. Don't use auto mode and review the commands.
                          2. Sandbox claude so that the fallout of such an oppsie is more limited.
                          3. Do nothing and have a claude-free afternoon while I restore my profile.

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                          • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

                            @jztusk @paco @neurovagrant

                            A simple select * from users would've been fine just to prove the point.

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                            #101

                            @jrdepriest @jztusk @paco @neurovagrant that shows access but not, whatsit, that the injected query has `drop table` privileges, I forget the term for it

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                            • computernut43@nexto.myC computernut43@nexto.my

                              @neurovagrant thats why dev machines are VM's for me and before I start to "dev" you make a backup. I think its time we teach about backups now.

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                              #102

                              @computernut43 @neurovagrant You mean one of the things that AI has just made unreasonably expensive?

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                              • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                                #103

                                @neurovagrant still waiting for the bad news

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                                • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                  @paco oh no

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                                  #104

                                  @neurovagrant @paco I don't think you can get your sysadmin certification without showing the scars where you dropped tables in production

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                                  • webhat@infosec.exchangeW webhat@infosec.exchange

                                    @neurovagrant @paco I don't think you can get your sysadmin certification without showing the scars where you dropped tables in production

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                                    #105

                                    @webhat @neurovagrant @paco

                                    I once took out Nespresso's factory by DoSing its firewall until it fell over. On a Friday at 5pm. With no one on call. Oops.

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                                    • davep@infosec.exchangeD davep@infosec.exchange

                                      @webhat @neurovagrant @paco

                                      I once took out Nespresso's factory by DoSing its firewall until it fell over. On a Friday at 5pm. With no one on call. Oops.

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                                      #106

                                      @webhat @neurovagrant @paco
                                      They lost a couple of tons of roasting beans...

                                      To be fair, it was my boss's fault for not allowing me to sniff the network with the systems at rest.

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                                      • fuzzyfuzzyfungus@cyberplace.socialF fuzzyfuzzyfungus@cyberplace.social

                                        @neurovagrant I realize that formal verification is a real pain; but I can't help but get the strong impression that software's experiments with downright belligerent levels of dumb empiricism might be going badly.

                                        It's like watching civil engineers overcome with excitement at the velocities achievable under "hold my beer" standards and practices.

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                                        #107

                                        @fuzzyfuzzyfungus @neurovagrant for whatever it is worth this is our belief as well

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                                        • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                          the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                                          #108

                                          @neurovagrant In case this hasn't been linked yet in this thread, relevant @davidrevoy comic:
                                          https://framapiaf.org/@davidrevoy/116211515986568390

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