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  • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

    @jztusk @womble @paco @neurovagrant

    Mission accomplished with the table drop, then?

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    #87

    @jrdepriest @jztusk @womble @paco @neurovagrant Yep. Sometimes that's the only way to make them understand. Or using a loop and ssh to power down an entire rack.

    "Are you sure? This is fatal," during a meeting with a client is not an idle threat, and a lot of clients think we're bluffing.

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    • rail@social.flufftech.netR rail@social.flufftech.net

      @paco @neurovagrant wouldn't that be a criminal offense at that point as well

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      #88

      @rail @paco @neurovagrant Depends on how aggro the client wants to be.

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      • adamhotep@infosec.exchangeA adamhotep@infosec.exchange

        @neurovagrant people still haven't learned after all that ransomware. Back it up and/or employ snapshots. I'm a big fan of ZFS snapshots.

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        #89

        @adamhotep @neurovagrant Because they were lucky enough to have usable backups.

        Stress "lucky."

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        • quinn@social.circl.luQ quinn@social.circl.lu

          @Viss @neurovagrant Letsss goooooo

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          #90

          @quinn @Viss @neurovagrant

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          • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

            @quinn @Viss @neurovagrant

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            #91

            @drwho @quinn @neurovagrant so i just went and squinted at the screenshot inside the screenshot

            dude doesnt know what a sandbox is.

            if the shit can reach your home directory, its not in a sandbox.

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            • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

              the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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              #92
              #neverslop
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              • dch@bsd.networkD dch@bsd.network

                @neurovagrant also, people still not doing backups/restore testing, no zfs, no jails / containers / other restrictions. Kids these days.

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                #93

                @dch @neurovagrant There are folks who don't even know what removable storage is, let alone file systems or files.

                "Just rebuild."

                Great. That's the OS. What about the data?

                There's probably a "chased by an angry goose" meme to make here.

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                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                  @drwho @quinn @neurovagrant so i just went and squinted at the screenshot inside the screenshot

                  dude doesnt know what a sandbox is.

                  if the shit can reach your home directory, its not in a sandbox.

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                  #94

                  @Viss @quinn @neurovagrant Given his previous business history, this surprises not at all.

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                  • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                    @Viss @quinn @neurovagrant Given his previous business history, this surprises not at all.

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                    #95

                    @drwho @Viss @neurovagrant he probably makes more in a month than i will ever make

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                    • quinn@social.circl.luQ quinn@social.circl.lu

                      @drwho @Viss @neurovagrant he probably makes more in a month than i will ever make

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                      #96

                      @quinn @drwho @neurovagrant oh, hes a cryptobro. no wonder

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                      • quinn@social.circl.luQ quinn@social.circl.lu

                        @drwho @Viss @neurovagrant he probably makes more in a month than i will ever make

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                        #97

                        @quinn @Viss @neurovagrant Same.

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                        • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                          @neurovagrant In 2005, we had a rookie security consultant doing a penetration test for our client. To demonstrate that the client's app was vulnerable to SQL injection, he ran drop table users; via injection.

                          Twenty years of progress means we can make the rookie mistakes faster and with fewer employees.

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                          #98

                          @paco @neurovagrant imho, if LLMs are what make developers finally care about cybersecurity, that's the first thing about them one might consider 'good'

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                          • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                            @rail @paco @neurovagrant Depends on how aggro the client wants to be.

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                            #99

                            Also depends on how well written your contact with the client is.

                            @drwho @rail @paco @neurovagrant

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                            • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                              the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                              #100

                              @neurovagrant I'm pushed to use claude at work... Three possible takeaways from this:

                              1. Don't use auto mode and review the commands.
                              2. Sandbox claude so that the fallout of such an oppsie is more limited.
                              3. Do nothing and have a claude-free afternoon while I restore my profile.

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                              • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

                                @jztusk @paco @neurovagrant

                                A simple select * from users would've been fine just to prove the point.

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                                #101

                                @jrdepriest @jztusk @paco @neurovagrant that shows access but not, whatsit, that the injected query has `drop table` privileges, I forget the term for it

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                                • computernut43@nexto.myC computernut43@nexto.my

                                  @neurovagrant thats why dev machines are VM's for me and before I start to "dev" you make a backup. I think its time we teach about backups now.

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                                  #102

                                  @computernut43 @neurovagrant You mean one of the things that AI has just made unreasonably expensive?

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                                  • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                    the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                                    #103

                                    @neurovagrant still waiting for the bad news

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                                    • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                      @paco oh no

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                                      #104

                                      @neurovagrant @paco I don't think you can get your sysadmin certification without showing the scars where you dropped tables in production

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                                      • webhat@infosec.exchangeW webhat@infosec.exchange

                                        @neurovagrant @paco I don't think you can get your sysadmin certification without showing the scars where you dropped tables in production

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                                        #105

                                        @webhat @neurovagrant @paco

                                        I once took out Nespresso's factory by DoSing its firewall until it fell over. On a Friday at 5pm. With no one on call. Oops.

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                                        • davep@infosec.exchangeD davep@infosec.exchange

                                          @webhat @neurovagrant @paco

                                          I once took out Nespresso's factory by DoSing its firewall until it fell over. On a Friday at 5pm. With no one on call. Oops.

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                                          #106

                                          @webhat @neurovagrant @paco
                                          They lost a couple of tons of roasting beans...

                                          To be fair, it was my boss's fault for not allowing me to sniff the network with the systems at rest.

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