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Linux creator Linus Torvalds puts foot down on anti-AI comments https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/07/linux-creator-linus-torvalds-puts-foot-down-on-anti-ai-comments/

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  • teflontrout@beige.partyT teflontrout@beige.party

    @gamingonlinux

    Fine. I'll come out and just say it.

    Linus Torvalds was once a fantastic programmer, but he has always been a fucking asshole.

    The only difference now is that he is a fucking STUPID asshole.

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    #30

    @TeflonTrout @gamingonlinux Help me understand this, if you can point AI at the Linux kernel and it can find zero days that humans can't, we are supposed to not do that?

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    • gekitsu@toot.catG gekitsu@toot.cat

      @gamingonlinux

      The kernel project has been and will continue to be about the technology.

      Sure, the social angle of working on open source is important and often a very motivating part of the project, but in the end that's a side benefit, not the point of the project.

      and this right here is why ‘open source’ has always been the bullshit version of ‘free software’.

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      #31

      @gekitsu @gamingonlinux wow I wonder where technologies come from

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      • migratory@jorts.horseM migratory@jorts.horse

        @gekitsu @gamingonlinux wow I wonder where technologies come from

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        #32

        @gekitsu @gamingonlinux probably atomized individuals struck by bolts of techne from the platonic realm I guess

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        • nowicki@mastodon.socialN nowicki@mastodon.social

          @TeflonTrout @gamingonlinux Help me understand this, if you can point AI at the Linux kernel and it can find zero days that humans can't, we are supposed to not do that?

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          #33

          @Nowicki @gamingonlinux YES.

          Next question.

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          • teflontrout@beige.partyT teflontrout@beige.party

            @Nowicki @gamingonlinux YES.

            Next question.

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            #34

            @TeflonTrout @gamingonlinux That's wild to me. As a normal layman (not a linux kernel maintainer), I guess I don't understand what is going on here.

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            • migratory@jorts.horseM migratory@jorts.horse

              @gekitsu @gamingonlinux probably atomized individuals struck by bolts of techne from the platonic realm I guess

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              #35

              @migratory must be something involving the fucking magnets dimension of general mystery.

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              • nowicki@mastodon.socialN nowicki@mastodon.social

                @TeflonTrout @gamingonlinux That's wild to me. As a normal layman (not a linux kernel maintainer), I guess I don't understand what is going on here.

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                #36

                @Nowicki @gamingonlinux

                ethically, it's like saying "if we don't feed the orphan paste to the starving, then we ground up all those orphans for nothing."

                Practically, the exploits being found aren't anything special. The tools that find them are hopeless at patching them. And, the entire time you use them, they are corroding your ability to do so yourself.

                And they aren't getting better, because they can't. The people who use machine learning tools for what they are actuallly good at, such as poring over petabytes (sp?) of images looking for something the user has programmed them to find, knew this over a decade ago.

                these things are being lied about wholesale, and a lot of people are buying it.

                Lastly, using them demonstrably turns you into a fucking credulous moron, even if you started out the opposite.

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                • teflontrout@beige.partyT teflontrout@beige.party

                  @Nowicki @gamingonlinux

                  ethically, it's like saying "if we don't feed the orphan paste to the starving, then we ground up all those orphans for nothing."

                  Practically, the exploits being found aren't anything special. The tools that find them are hopeless at patching them. And, the entire time you use them, they are corroding your ability to do so yourself.

                  And they aren't getting better, because they can't. The people who use machine learning tools for what they are actuallly good at, such as poring over petabytes (sp?) of images looking for something the user has programmed them to find, knew this over a decade ago.

                  these things are being lied about wholesale, and a lot of people are buying it.

                  Lastly, using them demonstrably turns you into a fucking credulous moron, even if you started out the opposite.

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                  #37

                  @TeflonTrout @gamingonlinux Just want to be clear, are saying that they are not actually functional coding/building tools, that they aren't functional at finding useful vulnerabilities, or both?

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                  • gamingonlinux@mastodon.socialG gamingonlinux@mastodon.social

                    Linux creator Linus Torvalds puts foot down on anti-AI comments https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/07/linux-creator-linus-torvalds-puts-foot-down-on-anti-ai-comments/

                    #Linux #AI #OpenSource

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                    #38

                    @gamingonlinux open source Linux's creator doesn't care that AI is not secure, reliable, open source, rights or environment respecting and equates caring about those issues with the derogatory tag 'social justice warrior'???

                    ?????

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                    • mpwg@fedi.atM mpwg@fedi.at

                      @gamingonlinux Ai is a tool. It all depends on how it’s used.

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                      #39

                      @mpwg @gamingonlinux you mean like wasting it to make your profile pic?

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                      • s_d_brath@mastodon.socialS s_d_brath@mastodon.social

                        @mpwg @gamingonlinux you mean like wasting it to make your profile pic?

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                        #40

                        @s_d_brath Yeah, I think it looks fun. What do you do to waste time?

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