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  • zikko@toot.catZ zikko@toot.cat

    @kirschner 460M€ => Senior Dev is about 100k€. This equals about 5000 Senior Devs, full time.

    I bet that amount of devs would make a lot of really, really good software.

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    #6

    @zikko @kirschner and it's JUST Germany. Imagine if we pooled resources as the EU

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    • kirschner@mastodon.socialK kirschner@mastodon.social

      RE: https://gruene.social/@Gerbsen/116052492129846084

      Money transfer from the German Federal Administration to Microsoft:

      2023: 274.091.361,75 Euro
      2024: 347.665.579,71 Euro
      2025: 481.369.660,77 Euro

      (Source: German Parliament 21/4006 page 96 https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/21/040/2104006.pdf )

      Daniel asks what #FreeSoftware #OpenSource could have been procured and developed with such sums and how you feel about when you see those numbers. He also fears this trend will continue.

      iusondemand@mastodon.unoI This user is from outside of this forum
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      #7

      @kirschner thank you

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      • kirschner@mastodon.socialK kirschner@mastodon.social

        RE: https://gruene.social/@Gerbsen/116052492129846084

        Money transfer from the German Federal Administration to Microsoft:

        2023: 274.091.361,75 Euro
        2024: 347.665.579,71 Euro
        2025: 481.369.660,77 Euro

        (Source: German Parliament 21/4006 page 96 https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/21/040/2104006.pdf )

        Daniel asks what #FreeSoftware #OpenSource could have been procured and developed with such sums and how you feel about when you see those numbers. He also fears this trend will continue.

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        #8

        @kirschner that will be 1B in 2 years time, wow. It doubles every 2 years.

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        • kirschner@mastodon.socialK kirschner@mastodon.social

          RE: https://gruene.social/@Gerbsen/116052492129846084

          Money transfer from the German Federal Administration to Microsoft:

          2023: 274.091.361,75 Euro
          2024: 347.665.579,71 Euro
          2025: 481.369.660,77 Euro

          (Source: German Parliament 21/4006 page 96 https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/21/040/2104006.pdf )

          Daniel asks what #FreeSoftware #OpenSource could have been procured and developed with such sums and how you feel about when you see those numbers. He also fears this trend will continue.

          unqualifiedtechbros@mastodon.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @kirschner
          https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227390419_Against_Intellectual_Monopoly

          Supporting intellectual monopoly which includes the likes of Microsoft, is supporting externalities which have devastating consequences for society.

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          • kirschner@mastodon.socialK kirschner@mastodon.social

            RE: https://gruene.social/@Gerbsen/116052492129846084

            Money transfer from the German Federal Administration to Microsoft:

            2023: 274.091.361,75 Euro
            2024: 347.665.579,71 Euro
            2025: 481.369.660,77 Euro

            (Source: German Parliament 21/4006 page 96 https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/21/040/2104006.pdf )

            Daniel asks what #FreeSoftware #OpenSource could have been procured and developed with such sums and how you feel about when you see those numbers. He also fears this trend will continue.

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            #10

            @kirschner Brilliant question to be asking. And lays bare the lie of "build versus by".

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            • fajfer@mastodon.socialF fajfer@mastodon.social

              @zikko @kirschner and it's JUST Germany. Imagine if we pooled resources as the EU

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              #11

              @fajfer @zikko @kirschner and then factor in the cost/benefit of essentially *owning* vs *leasing*.

              there was a time when this made sense, but now EU citizens are essentially paying for microsoft to play in the AI bubble

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              • kirschner@mastodon.socialK kirschner@mastodon.social

                RE: https://gruene.social/@Gerbsen/116052492129846084

                Money transfer from the German Federal Administration to Microsoft:

                2023: 274.091.361,75 Euro
                2024: 347.665.579,71 Euro
                2025: 481.369.660,77 Euro

                (Source: German Parliament 21/4006 page 96 https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/21/040/2104006.pdf )

                Daniel asks what #FreeSoftware #OpenSource could have been procured and developed with such sums and how you feel about when you see those numbers. He also fears this trend will continue.

                xs4me2@mastodon.socialX This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12

                @kirschner

                Utterly ridiculous indeed... imaging the amount of software, infrastructure, knowledge and jobs this could have led to in Europe... time for change!

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                • kirschner@mastodon.socialK kirschner@mastodon.social

                  RE: https://gruene.social/@Gerbsen/116052492129846084

                  Money transfer from the German Federal Administration to Microsoft:

                  2023: 274.091.361,75 Euro
                  2024: 347.665.579,71 Euro
                  2025: 481.369.660,77 Euro

                  (Source: German Parliament 21/4006 page 96 https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/21/040/2104006.pdf )

                  Daniel asks what #FreeSoftware #OpenSource could have been procured and developed with such sums and how you feel about when you see those numbers. He also fears this trend will continue.

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                  #13

                  @kirschner

                  Imagine the lives of all the open source projects if they got just a few pennies from all that money

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                  • kirschner@mastodon.socialK kirschner@mastodon.social

                    RE: https://gruene.social/@Gerbsen/116052492129846084

                    Money transfer from the German Federal Administration to Microsoft:

                    2023: 274.091.361,75 Euro
                    2024: 347.665.579,71 Euro
                    2025: 481.369.660,77 Euro

                    (Source: German Parliament 21/4006 page 96 https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/21/040/2104006.pdf )

                    Daniel asks what #FreeSoftware #OpenSource could have been procured and developed with such sums and how you feel about when you see those numbers. He also fears this trend will continue.

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                    #14

                    @kirschner Whats all the payments for? They look more like covert donations in support of some dark agenda

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                    • kirschner@mastodon.socialK kirschner@mastodon.social

                      RE: https://gruene.social/@Gerbsen/116052492129846084

                      Money transfer from the German Federal Administration to Microsoft:

                      2023: 274.091.361,75 Euro
                      2024: 347.665.579,71 Euro
                      2025: 481.369.660,77 Euro

                      (Source: German Parliament 21/4006 page 96 https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/21/040/2104006.pdf )

                      Daniel asks what #FreeSoftware #OpenSource could have been procured and developed with such sums and how you feel about when you see those numbers. He also fears this trend will continue.

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                      #15

                      @kirschner Jaw Dropping big number lol. The financial Markets is Shocked

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                      • kirschner@mastodon.socialK kirschner@mastodon.social

                        RE: https://gruene.social/@Gerbsen/116052492129846084

                        Money transfer from the German Federal Administration to Microsoft:

                        2023: 274.091.361,75 Euro
                        2024: 347.665.579,71 Euro
                        2025: 481.369.660,77 Euro

                        (Source: German Parliament 21/4006 page 96 https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/21/040/2104006.pdf )

                        Daniel asks what #FreeSoftware #OpenSource could have been procured and developed with such sums and how you feel about when you see those numbers. He also fears this trend will continue.

                        jesusmargar@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #16

                        @kirschner Seeing this only as an open source /free software issue is missing the football, in my opinion. Most of that money won't be on software but on cloud services, servers and support. You may replace MS for open source versions but I doubt the costs would go down considerably and I am not sure how many companies would be able to step in at that level. The Government may have to do it by itself (which is possible, but would take time and serious investment).

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                        • jesusmargar@mastodon.socialJ jesusmargar@mastodon.social

                          @kirschner Seeing this only as an open source /free software issue is missing the football, in my opinion. Most of that money won't be on software but on cloud services, servers and support. You may replace MS for open source versions but I doubt the costs would go down considerably and I am not sure how many companies would be able to step in at that level. The Government may have to do it by itself (which is possible, but would take time and serious investment).

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                          #17

                          @kirschner In an ideal world, you'd see the EU pulling resources together to replace it with an EU-based alternative, ideally publicly run and serving all 27 nations with possibility to export elsewhere, but that would take a few years to develop. I don't see it happening.

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                          • kirschner@mastodon.socialK kirschner@mastodon.social

                            RE: https://gruene.social/@Gerbsen/116052492129846084

                            Money transfer from the German Federal Administration to Microsoft:

                            2023: 274.091.361,75 Euro
                            2024: 347.665.579,71 Euro
                            2025: 481.369.660,77 Euro

                            (Source: German Parliament 21/4006 page 96 https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/21/040/2104006.pdf )

                            Daniel asks what #FreeSoftware #OpenSource could have been procured and developed with such sums and how you feel about when you see those numbers. He also fears this trend will continue.

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                            #18

                            @kirschner And Microsoft will obviously not lower their prices now they have the customer onboard in their system. When it is extremely difficult and costly for your customer to leave you can basically ask any price you want.

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                            • kirschner@mastodon.socialK kirschner@mastodon.social

                              RE: https://gruene.social/@Gerbsen/116052492129846084

                              Money transfer from the German Federal Administration to Microsoft:

                              2023: 274.091.361,75 Euro
                              2024: 347.665.579,71 Euro
                              2025: 481.369.660,77 Euro

                              (Source: German Parliament 21/4006 page 96 https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/21/040/2104006.pdf )

                              Daniel asks what #FreeSoftware #OpenSource could have been procured and developed with such sums and how you feel about when you see those numbers. He also fears this trend will continue.

                              mray@social.tchncs.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #19

                              @kirschner A more visual representation of how #DigitalSovereignty is going:

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                              • mray@social.tchncs.deM mray@social.tchncs.de

                                @kirschner A more visual representation of how #DigitalSovereignty is going:

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                                #20

                                @mray @kirschner

                                EpsteinGate might bring Microsoft down.

                                https://rant.li/ashwin/castles-made-of-sand

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                                • kirschner@mastodon.socialK kirschner@mastodon.social

                                  RE: https://gruene.social/@Gerbsen/116052492129846084

                                  Money transfer from the German Federal Administration to Microsoft:

                                  2023: 274.091.361,75 Euro
                                  2024: 347.665.579,71 Euro
                                  2025: 481.369.660,77 Euro

                                  (Source: German Parliament 21/4006 page 96 https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/21/040/2104006.pdf )

                                  Daniel asks what #FreeSoftware #OpenSource could have been procured and developed with such sums and how you feel about when you see those numbers. He also fears this trend will continue.

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                                  #21

                                  @kirschner then extrapolate to all of EU and see the sheer power there

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                                  • kirschner@mastodon.socialK kirschner@mastodon.social

                                    RE: https://gruene.social/@Gerbsen/116052492129846084

                                    Money transfer from the German Federal Administration to Microsoft:

                                    2023: 274.091.361,75 Euro
                                    2024: 347.665.579,71 Euro
                                    2025: 481.369.660,77 Euro

                                    (Source: German Parliament 21/4006 page 96 https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/21/040/2104006.pdf )

                                    Daniel asks what #FreeSoftware #OpenSource could have been procured and developed with such sums and how you feel about when you see those numbers. He also fears this trend will continue.

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                                    #22

                                    @kirschner 🤯

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                                    • kirschner@mastodon.socialK kirschner@mastodon.social

                                      RE: https://gruene.social/@Gerbsen/116052492129846084

                                      Money transfer from the German Federal Administration to Microsoft:

                                      2023: 274.091.361,75 Euro
                                      2024: 347.665.579,71 Euro
                                      2025: 481.369.660,77 Euro

                                      (Source: German Parliament 21/4006 page 96 https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/21/040/2104006.pdf )

                                      Daniel asks what #FreeSoftware #OpenSource could have been procured and developed with such sums and how you feel about when you see those numbers. He also fears this trend will continue.

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                                      #23

                                      @kirschner ReactOS would've been finished AND caught up with Windows 11 in terms of compatibility 😄

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