Stop saying stupid stuff like: "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."
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@KittenKoder @Tutanota
"Less guns will result in fewer murders by guns though, that's just basic math"
This is very uneducated and short-sided from your sight.Less weapons means less lawful citizens being able to protect themselves against criminals. (who as you might guess are cowards attacking those who they deem less likely to be able to stand their ground)
Look at the Wild West, for example.
(Not the movies, but the reality of Wild West.)Crims will rethink whether to rob armed one.
1/2@The_Universality Holy shit, you're doing the fallacy, the "good guy with a gun" trope is a fucking fallacy because it happens less than mass shootings do.
Also, the Wild West was a hellscape, it was horrible, people were miserable at that time because of all the guns.
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@KittenKoder @Tutanota
"Less guns will result in fewer murders by guns though, that's just basic math"
This is very uneducated and short-sided from your sight.Less weapons means less lawful citizens being able to protect themselves against criminals. (who as you might guess are cowards attacking those who they deem less likely to be able to stand their ground)
Look at the Wild West, for example.
(Not the movies, but the reality of Wild West.)Crims will rethink whether to rob armed one.
1/2As for motorists, yes we should make personal motor transport the least desirable option (at least in cities) and invest in public transport. As it is better and we wouldn't be using the precious oil for something as stupid as burning it to move few km(s).
But, that doesn't make all motorists psychotic.
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As for motorists, yes we should make personal motor transport the least desirable option (at least in cities) and invest in public transport. As it is better and we wouldn't be using the precious oil for something as stupid as burning it to move few km(s).
But, that doesn't make all motorists psychotic.
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@The_Universality The use of a car makes you weak and pathetically enslaved to the capitalists. You are destroying the planet just so you can waste your body away sitting all day doing nothing.
Also, you just proved you're psychotic.
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@The_Universality Holy shit, you're doing the fallacy, the "good guy with a gun" trope is a fucking fallacy because it happens less than mass shootings do.
Also, the Wild West was a hellscape, it was horrible, people were miserable at that time because of all the guns.
"Also, the Wild West was a hellscape, it was horrible, people were miserable at that time because of all the guns."
That is not true. Please research.
As for the mass shootings, consider the fact, that most of those shootings happen because those who were attacked had no weapons to protect themselves with.
It indeed may sound illogical at first for more weapons to cause more peace, but this was proved multiple times.
Here's a book regarding this:
https://dn720006.ca.archive.org/0/items/english-collections-k-z/More%20Guns%2C%20Less%20Crime_%20Understanding%20Cri%20-%20John%20R.%20Lott%20Jr_.pdf -
Stop saying stupid stuff like:
"If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."Start saying:
"A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."Unless it's the government, which is supposed to be open:
"US Treasury Bars Reporters From G20 Finance Meeting"
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@The_Universality The use of a car makes you weak and pathetically enslaved to the capitalists. You are destroying the planet just so you can waste your body away sitting all day doing nothing.
Also, you just proved you're psychotic.
I could argue against this as being dependent on public transport makes you enslaved to the time-schedule.
Cars have use, a great one. It should be used, however, only when necessary.
I like public transport (Škoda 26 Tr, my beloved) but you can't just say cars are used by psychotic people.
Tired vehicles are contributing to climate crisis, mainly due to tires that combustion engines, and trains should be the mode for container transport, but, you sometimes need tired vehicle.
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@The_Universality The use of a car makes you weak and pathetically enslaved to the capitalists. You are destroying the planet just so you can waste your body away sitting all day doing nothing.
Also, you just proved you're psychotic.
@KittenKoder Also, I'm not psychologist are psychology expert, but how did I proved I'm psychotic, exactly?
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@KittenKoder Also, I'm not psychologist are psychology expert, but how did I proved I'm psychotic, exactly?
@The_Universality You literally tried to justify gun violence and motorists murdering more than 20 pedestrians per day.
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I could argue against this as being dependent on public transport makes you enslaved to the time-schedule.
Cars have use, a great one. It should be used, however, only when necessary.
I like public transport (Škoda 26 Tr, my beloved) but you can't just say cars are used by psychotic people.
Tired vehicles are contributing to climate crisis, mainly due to tires that combustion engines, and trains should be the mode for container transport, but, you sometimes need tired vehicle.
@The_Universality Except it doesn't, because you're not forced to use it. When cars are gone, the local economies thrive.
Your cars are destroying everything.
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"Also, the Wild West was a hellscape, it was horrible, people were miserable at that time because of all the guns."
That is not true. Please research.
As for the mass shootings, consider the fact, that most of those shootings happen because those who were attacked had no weapons to protect themselves with.
It indeed may sound illogical at first for more weapons to cause more peace, but this was proved multiple times.
Here's a book regarding this:
https://dn720006.ca.archive.org/0/items/english-collections-k-z/More%20Guns%2C%20Less%20Crime_%20Understanding%20Cri%20-%20John%20R.%20Lott%20Jr_.pdf@The_Universality Holy fuck, you really think the Hollywood movies are accurate. Then you cite a debunked blog post from some capitalist scumbag.
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@The_Universality You literally tried to justify gun violence and motorists murdering more than 20 pedestrians per day.
@KittenKoder You are either using sever argumentation faults or didn't read my messages.
I do not justify gun violence. If I would, I would be pushing for laws that restrict weapons as this enables criminals (which as you might guess do not really bother with crime) to attack lawful citizens.
I'm also not enjoying deaths by vehicles.
Why even would I?I'm not sure what prompted you to understand my replies this way, but what you write here is simply false.
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@KittenKoder You are either using sever argumentation faults or didn't read my messages.
I do not justify gun violence. If I would, I would be pushing for laws that restrict weapons as this enables criminals (which as you might guess do not really bother with crime) to attack lawful citizens.
I'm also not enjoying deaths by vehicles.
Why even would I?I'm not sure what prompted you to understand my replies this way, but what you write here is simply false.
@The_Universality I have zero respect for motorists and people who argue with fallacies. I support regulated gun ownership, keep them out of the hands of violent criminals and psychopaths.
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@The_Universality Except it doesn't, because you're not forced to use it. When cars are gone, the local economies thrive.
Your cars are destroying everything.
@KittenKoder It doesn't what? Make one enslaved to time-schedule because they're not forced to use it?
If you work few hours away from somewhere the public transport schedule needs you to plan around it.
Is that a bad thing? I'd say no. But you can't deny you'd have to obey it, unless you'd want to miss your connection.
If that wouldn't be the case, why do we see so many cars. (Especially in the parking plots called cities in America & Canada).
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@The_Universality Except it doesn't, because you're not forced to use it. When cars are gone, the local economies thrive.
Your cars are destroying everything.
@KittenKoder As for "Your cars are destroying everything." vehicles with tires are indeed rather harmful to the environment, whether electrical or combustion. Although, combustion engines positively (as in being more harmful) contribute to this as well.
This, however, shouldn't warrant a global wide tired vehicle ban. No.
We should invest flush money into the effective less pollutant modes of transport, such as trains, trams, metros & (trolley)busses.
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@KittenKoder As for "Your cars are destroying everything." vehicles with tires are indeed rather harmful to the environment, whether electrical or combustion. Although, combustion engines positively (as in being more harmful) contribute to this as well.
This, however, shouldn't warrant a global wide tired vehicle ban. No.
We should invest flush money into the effective less pollutant modes of transport, such as trains, trams, metros & (trolley)busses.
So the cars would be less wanted.@The_Universality Yes, we should ban all the tired vehicles.
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@KittenKoder It doesn't what? Make one enslaved to time-schedule because they're not forced to use it?
If you work few hours away from somewhere the public transport schedule needs you to plan around it.
Is that a bad thing? I'd say no. But you can't deny you'd have to obey it, unless you'd want to miss your connection.
If that wouldn't be the case, why do we see so many cars. (Especially in the parking plots called cities in America & Canada).
@The_Universality No, it really doesn't. You motorists have this really bad habit thinking long distance travel is both desired and required every day.
Most humans only want to go a few blocks for everything, no one wants to travel to the next town just to buy some fucking milk.
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@The_Universality Holy fuck, you really think the Hollywood movies are accurate. Then you cite a debunked blog post from some capitalist scumbag.
@KittenKoder You are either unable to read/understand or are intentionally fauling.
First, it is Hollywood what renders Wild West as unruly place where everyone shoots someone for them taking their seat.
This doesn't happen in reality, rather the opposite.
This, by the way, happened after being armed was permitted in Washington.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/31/AR2009123103039.htmlThe logic is quite simple, if you want to rob someone, you'll rob one unarmed as they have less resources to guard and protect themself.
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@KittenKoder You are either unable to read/understand or are intentionally fauling.
First, it is Hollywood what renders Wild West as unruly place where everyone shoots someone for them taking their seat.
This doesn't happen in reality, rather the opposite.
This, by the way, happened after being armed was permitted in Washington.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/31/AR2009123103039.htmlThe logic is quite simple, if you want to rob someone, you'll rob one unarmed as they have less resources to guard and protect themself.
@The_Universality Crime falls when you have socialism, yes. But the Wild West was a horrible time and place to live in, the fucking robber barons were shooting people who disagreed with them.
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Stop saying stupid stuff like:
"If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."Start saying:
"A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."@Tutanota totalitarian gangsters are collapsing society right now, to protect your life, you need a email that not collect evidence for thought police to maintain totalitarian regime, and that email might be tuta
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@The_Universality Yes, we should ban all the tired vehicles.
@KittenKoder No.
This is similarly dumb as to ban oil mining and then wondering why there is no medication to be bought.
It should be made less appealing, dramatically so.
The alternative, (if you can call it that) is either to build rail everywhere or to let the economy die altogether.
Which I seriously hope you realize what could cause. It would certainly not be win for the nature I can tell you that.
