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  • curltoes@mastodon.socialC curltoes@mastodon.social

    @jwz yes but local LLMs on your own computer is not as bad. the models were already trained so the worst possible crime you commit is adding a +1 on that hugging face download counter.

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    #27

    @curltoes "my slop is good because it's a local model" does not change the fact that all you're doing is generating slop, hth

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    • atax1a@infosec.exchangeA atax1a@infosec.exchange

      @curltoes "my slop is good because it's a local model" does not change the fact that all you're doing is generating slop, hth

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      #28

      @atax1a depends what you use it for. if someone is okay with using it for personal use like roleplay on their own hardware and no one else sees it, why do you care that someone generated slop on their computer?

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      • curltoes@mastodon.socialC curltoes@mastodon.social

        @atax1a depends what you use it for. if someone is okay with using it for personal use like roleplay on their own hardware and no one else sees it, why do you care that someone generated slop on their computer?

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        #29

        @curltoes because you're generating slop

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        • atax1a@infosec.exchangeA atax1a@infosec.exchange

          @curltoes because you're generating slop

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          #30

          @atax1a okay? and if i play a shitty game that was made in 5 minutes by a human that you dont like should you judge that i like it? its low quality slop to you and its good enough to me

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          • curltoes@mastodon.socialC curltoes@mastodon.social

            @atax1a okay? and if i play a shitty game that was made in 5 minutes by a human that you dont like should you judge that i like it? its low quality slop to you and its good enough to me

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            #31

            @curltoes you're arguing directly for the proliferation of LLM garbage by saying "what if it was human made", i guess this is what local models do to you, qed

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            • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

              Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

              I had some cards printed up.

              These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

              Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
              https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

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              #32

              @jwz is it so tedious? Everyone hates it, yes, but humans are herd animals, we need common things to talk about. Weather, ai, russians...

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              • atax1a@infosec.exchangeA atax1a@infosec.exchange

                @curltoes you're arguing directly for the proliferation of LLM garbage by saying "what if it was human made", i guess this is what local models do to you, qed

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                #33

                @atax1a not exactly, its about individual use of software. you have the right to use software on your own computer. besides, ai can be used to help with coding like creating simple scripts and saving some time

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                • zabenoid@mastodon.socialZ zabenoid@mastodon.social

                  @jwz is it so tedious? Everyone hates it, yes, but humans are herd animals, we need common things to talk about. Weather, ai, russians...

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                  #34

                  @zabenoid "Fuck you", he explained.

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                  • curltoes@mastodon.socialC curltoes@mastodon.social

                    @atax1a not exactly, its about individual use of software. you have the right to use software on your own computer. besides, ai can be used to help with coding like creating simple scripts and saving some time

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                    #35

                    @curltoes slop! slop! slop!

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                    • atax1a@infosec.exchangeA atax1a@infosec.exchange

                      @curltoes slop! slop! slop!

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                      #36

                      @atax1a it is but if it's helpful slop, i dont care

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                      • noisecolor@toot.communityN noisecolor@toot.community

                        @jwz
                        I don't get it. Is this like a big chunk of your identity or something?

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                        #37

                        @Noisecolor I am a magnet for the most tedious motherfuckers in the bar.

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                        • curltoes@mastodon.socialC curltoes@mastodon.social

                          @atax1a it is but if it's helpful slop, i dont care

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                          #38

                          @curltoes you're a careless slopist, that isn't news, hope you step on a lego

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                          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                            Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

                            I had some cards printed up.

                            These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

                            Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
                            https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

                            coriopsicologia@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #39

                            @jwz I love it. Now I need to translate it to Spanish

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                            • glaswolf@mastodon.scotG glaswolf@mastodon.scot

                              @curltoes @jwz I AM TRYING TO EAT BREAKFAST

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                              #40

                              @GlasWolf @jwz have a good meal then

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                              • curltoes@mastodon.socialC curltoes@mastodon.social

                                @jwz i don't understand what your problem is with it i wasnt hostile towards you and you are just being mean for no reason

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                                #41

                                @curltoes 1) social media, and yes, mastodon as well, has 2 sides, ONLY 2 sides, and no middle ground - a "lets take a reasonable stance here" would not get boosted by the hype and engagement machine 2) you're engaging with someone wearing a MAGA hat, this one just says NO AI, so you gotta manage your expectations here..

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                                • sdrhoernchen@chaos.socialS sdrhoernchen@chaos.social

                                  @curltoes 1) social media, and yes, mastodon as well, has 2 sides, ONLY 2 sides, and no middle ground - a "lets take a reasonable stance here" would not get boosted by the hype and engagement machine 2) you're engaging with someone wearing a MAGA hat, this one just says NO AI, so you gotta manage your expectations here..

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                                  #42

                                  @SDRHoernchen the card would be useful for people who arent worth arguing with like double digit IQ people but to say that not taking a hard stance against something makes you dumb or whatever like probably how some people here see me is weird. i hate ai as well, but there are unchangeable things that can be managed. what is the solution? destroy all copies of ai on the internet? destroy gguf files on everyones computer? copyright was broken anyway, finding some small use is ok.

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                                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                    Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

                                    I had some cards printed up.

                                    These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

                                    Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
                                    https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

                                    nske@ravenation.clubN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #43

                                    @jwz There are an absolutely incredible number of blockables in the replies to this post, amazing really given the point about consent.

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                                    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                      Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

                                      I had some cards printed up.

                                      These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

                                      Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
                                      https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

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                                      #44

                                      @jwz I noticed even my local grocery store is using it too 🙀

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                                      • eetschrijver@mastodon.socialE eetschrijver@mastodon.social

                                        @jwz I'm very seriously considering producing these in a French version.

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                                        #45

                                        @Eetschrijver @jwz vas-y, et n'oublie pas de partager s.t.p.

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                                        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                          Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

                                          I had some cards printed up.

                                          These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

                                          Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
                                          https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

                                          regendans@todon.euR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #46

                                          #ALT4you A table with red colored stickers with white colored text : Do not talk to me about "AI"

                                          The backside of the stickers show : There is no ethical use of AI and The machine is digusting and must be destroyed.

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