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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

    Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

    https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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    #8

    @sundogplanets what bollocks is this ? they both prize the lawless nature of space above everything.

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    • syvash@mastodon.socialS syvash@mastodon.social

      @f4grx @sundogplanets sorry but we need satellite communications, kessler syndrome would mean we go into WW3 with a much larger handicap than already now (which in turn increases the likelihood of WW3)

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      #9

      @f4grx @sundogplanets also its not like these people _really_ care about money, in the way a rational economic agent would...

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

        Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

        https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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        #10

        @sundogplanets yea but we could start putting lasers on launch vehicles to deflect starlink garbage. That would be cool

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

          Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

          https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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          #11

          @sundogplanets Waa! The other kids are playing with their toys so I can't play with mine as much any more.

          Is how I read this article.

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

            Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

            https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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            #12

            @sundogplanets faster than light. i would never use a satteliite network. i go straight to the internet back-bone and i like copper.

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

              Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

              https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

              finitum@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #13

              @sundogplanets so thats how they'll justify their valuation.

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                #14

                @sundogplanets I honestly wonder when we’ll cross the tipping point and see the Kessler syndrome in action…

                To save the curios a search: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

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                • burritosommelier@techhub.socialB burritosommelier@techhub.social

                  @sundogplanets I honestly wonder when we’ll cross the tipping point and see the Kessler syndrome in action…

                  To save the curios a search: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

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                  #15

                  @BurritoSommelier We're already in Kessler syndrome at many altitudes. It's just the timescale between collisions is slow (for now)

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                  • lisp1984@mastodon.socialL lisp1984@mastodon.social

                    @sundogplanets faster than light. i would never use a satteliite network. i go straight to the internet back-bone and i like copper.

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                    #16

                    @lisp1984 @sundogplanets

                    Copper is great except when it gets stolen.

                    We can't have nice things any more : -(

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                    • bjb@fosstodon.orgB bjb@fosstodon.org

                      @lisp1984 @sundogplanets

                      Copper is great except when it gets stolen.

                      We can't have nice things any more : -(

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                      #17

                      @bjb @sundogplanets i am not a scrapper but i know what you are talking about. that copper line kept a constant signal with the phone copany during power outages. using voice over ip is slow. a cell phone can not always connect to a tower.
                      verizon did a lot of damage to me.

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                        Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                        https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                        #18

                        @sundogplanets but how else can one satellite talk to another that's much closer to reduce latency?

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                          Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                          https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                          #19

                          @sundogplanets And as a complete aside, I see from the comments and distribution of votes that Ars article comments are to continue to be avoided. I mistakenly assumed there would be a promoted or well regarded comment against this situation.

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                            Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                            https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                            #20

                            @sundogplanets This is the space equivalent of telco companies hanging extremely large/heavy bundles of wire along power utility pole infrastructure... and then the poles break under pressure... and the telco blames the power company.

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                              Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                              https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                              #21

                              @sundogplanets According to Wikipedia: "Starlink Services, LLC is a telecommunications subsidiary of the American spaceflight company SpaceX..."

                              SOMEBODY needs to coordinate all of the satellites that we exclusively control. 😅

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                              • tehstu@hachyderm.ioT tehstu@hachyderm.io

                                @sundogplanets And as a complete aside, I see from the comments and distribution of votes that Ars article comments are to continue to be avoided. I mistakenly assumed there would be a promoted or well regarded comment against this situation.

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                                #22

                                @tehstu @sundogplanets space ars is a weird bubble that likes to pretend "space cool" is enough to ignore everything else about elon

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                                  Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                                  https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                                  #23

                                  @sundogplanets Sooooo… obviously this is a fucking disaster, but how in the hell do we *undo* this bullshit without creating more of a problem (ie, blowing them up would be bad, deorbiting them would probably also be bad, etc)?

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                                  • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO octothorpe@mastodon.online

                                    @sundogplanets Sooooo… obviously this is a fucking disaster, but how in the hell do we *undo* this bullshit without creating more of a problem (ie, blowing them up would be bad, deorbiting them would probably also be bad, etc)?

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                                    #24

                                    @octothorpe @sundogplanets We need that Jewish space laser.

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                                    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                      @sundogplanets We should rebrand SpaceX™️ == SpaceTrash™️

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                                      #25

                                      @stux @sundogplanets 🙌
                                      Or SpaceXcrement™️ will do too?

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        @BurritoSommelier We're already in Kessler syndrome at many altitudes. It's just the timescale between collisions is slow (for now)

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                                        #26

                                        @sundogplanets I watched this last night and one interviewee said basically the same thing - effectively that there’s enough up there already that it’s just a matter of time now

                                        https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/video/space-wars/

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                                          Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                                          https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                                          #27

                                          @sundogplanets Suddenly, it all makes sense now.

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