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#Graduation #AI #fail seems to be a recurring theme lately

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  • nandor@universeodon.comN This user is from outside of this forum
    nandor@universeodon.comN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #10

    @PeterLG @benroyce I'm an AI statistician and I agree with you! Use tech for things that humans are really bad at and tech is much better at, not things that humans are inherently better at but just more expensive for.

    (And in this case, how much more expensive would it have been to have a human saying the names?)

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    • mcrocker@thecanadian.socialM mcrocker@thecanadian.social

      @benroyce

      Isn't that cheating?

      benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @McRocker 😆

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        #CNN on instagram has video of an example of the #graduation #AI #fail at #Glendale CC in #Arizona

        no, that is not Derek Martinez

        🤦‍♂️

        and isn't it lovely to do all that hard work in college and then in the moment of your success and triumph you're churned through with a robot's voice instead of a fucking human being?

        😠

        macacator@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
        macacator@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #12

        @benroyce at that point, just open the floor and let the students find their own pieces of expensive toilet paper

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        • pixelpusher220@dmv.communityP This user is from outside of this forum
          pixelpusher220@dmv.communityP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #13

          @PeterLG @benroyce saw a comment that's probably spot on.

          "which faculty got a kickback or discount for pushing the AI software"

          there's just no way this is done for funsies...especially at a community college.

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            #Graduation #AI #fail seems to be a recurring theme lately

            Here's the latest 🍿 for you:

            #Glendale community #college in #Arizona used AI to read names

            Predictably, it missed people, it had the names out of order, etc

            Because, of course, a human reading the names of #graduates and giving them simple decent recognition for their dedication and work is too hard?

            This is video of college #faculty trying to explain the debacle. The crowd reaction is not supportive

            And oh yeah: Fuck AI

            pixelpusher220@dmv.communityP This user is from outside of this forum
            pixelpusher220@dmv.communityP This user is from outside of this forum
            pixelpusher220@dmv.community
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            #14

            @benroyce gonna be an outlier year in alumni giving down the line.

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @RantingCanuck

              we're still in the dreamy honeymoon phase of starry eyed "AI for everything!"

              even things, as you note, that do not remotely deserve an AI treatment. and is even rather insulting and cold

              i suspect that will change

              it damn well better change

              vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV This user is from outside of this forum
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              vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de
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              #15

              @benroyce @RantingCanuck

              trained doggo would be more popular with the students and provide a cute video (you could dress it up in cap and gown ) 🎓 🐶

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              • claudiom@bsd.networkC This user is from outside of this forum
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                #16

                @PeterLG Not to mention all of the money that was wasted to have that fail in epic fashion. @benroyce

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                • macacator@mastodon.socialM macacator@mastodon.social

                  @benroyce at that point, just open the floor and let the students find their own pieces of expensive toilet paper

                  benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                  benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #17

                  @macacator 😂

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                  • pixelpusher220@dmv.communityP pixelpusher220@dmv.community

                    @PeterLG @benroyce saw a comment that's probably spot on.

                    "which faculty got a kickback or discount for pushing the AI software"

                    there's just no way this is done for funsies...especially at a community college.

                    brad@1040ste.netB This user is from outside of this forum
                    brad@1040ste.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #18

                    @pixelpusher220 @PeterLG @benroyce Maybe - although I could absolutely see a Dean Pelton type thinking it was a great idea with or without the brown envelopes changing hands.

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      #Graduation #AI #fail seems to be a recurring theme lately

                      Here's the latest 🍿 for you:

                      #Glendale community #college in #Arizona used AI to read names

                      Predictably, it missed people, it had the names out of order, etc

                      Because, of course, a human reading the names of #graduates and giving them simple decent recognition for their dedication and work is too hard?

                      This is video of college #faculty trying to explain the debacle. The crowd reaction is not supportive

                      And oh yeah: Fuck AI

                      bltpizza@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                      bltpizza@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                      bltpizza@mastodon.social
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                      #19

                      @benroyce I would have left after yelling, "fuck this AI bullshit".

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                      • lemgandi@mastodon.socialL lemgandi@mastodon.social

                        @benroyce Wow. I did not think any institution of higher learning was dumb enough to screw up a graduation ceremony with AI. Apparently I was mistaken.

                        dukeduke@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                        dukeduke@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #20

                        @lemgandi @benroyce Florizona. 😑

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                        • ashmire@pagan.plusA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #21

                          @PeterLG @benroyce I noticed today that my local grocery store has started doing announcements this way. Not even pre-recorded advertising announcements they'd have to repeat regularly, but impromptu things, too. It makes no sense to me even there, but for a serious and meaningful occasion like a graduation it's terrible. What next, AI eulogies for your funeral?

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            #Graduation #AI #fail seems to be a recurring theme lately

                            Here's the latest 🍿 for you:

                            #Glendale community #college in #Arizona used AI to read names

                            Predictably, it missed people, it had the names out of order, etc

                            Because, of course, a human reading the names of #graduates and giving them simple decent recognition for their dedication and work is too hard?

                            This is video of college #faculty trying to explain the debacle. The crowd reaction is not supportive

                            And oh yeah: Fuck AI

                            mausmalone@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                            mausmalone@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                            mausmalone@mastodon.social
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                            #22

                            @benroyce the sad part is that the faculty and staff are proud of their graduates. Surely there would be volunteers to read the names if they only asked.

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                            • ashmire@pagan.plusA ashmire@pagan.plus

                              @PeterLG @benroyce I noticed today that my local grocery store has started doing announcements this way. Not even pre-recorded advertising announcements they'd have to repeat regularly, but impromptu things, too. It makes no sense to me even there, but for a serious and meaningful occasion like a graduation it's terrible. What next, AI eulogies for your funeral?

                              benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              benroyce@mastodon.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #23

                              @Ashmire @PeterLG

                              Don't give them ideas!

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                #Graduation #AI #fail seems to be a recurring theme lately

                                Here's the latest 🍿 for you:

                                #Glendale community #college in #Arizona used AI to read names

                                Predictably, it missed people, it had the names out of order, etc

                                Because, of course, a human reading the names of #graduates and giving them simple decent recognition for their dedication and work is too hard?

                                This is video of college #faculty trying to explain the debacle. The crowd reaction is not supportive

                                And oh yeah: Fuck AI

                                mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
                                mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
                                mast0d0nphan@beige.party
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #24

                                @benroyce Christ on 67 bicycles, this is infuriating.

                                "Just take pictures bro I promise you'll be able to remember this shitty moment bro just upload the pics to Insta bro you'll have something to remember us shitting on your graduation by bro plz bro just do AI bro"

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                                • rantingcanuck@mstdn.caR rantingcanuck@mstdn.ca

                                  @benroyce

                                  I genuinely don't understand why they would spend money on AI to read names at graduation... getting a faculty member to volunteer to do it, a faculty member who is already being paid a salary and thus costs nothing extra, is better in every possible scenario.

                                  Maybe next year they'll hire a trained dog to bark out the names? It would go over better

                                  wil@beige.partyW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #25

                                  @RantingCanuck I was assuming it's a case of "we paid for it, we have to figure out something to do with it." @benroyce

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    #CNN on instagram has video of an example of the #graduation #AI #fail at #Glendale CC in #Arizona

                                    no, that is not Derek Martinez

                                    🤦‍♂️

                                    and isn't it lovely to do all that hard work in college and then in the moment of your success and triumph you're churned through with a robot's voice instead of a fucking human being?

                                    😠

                                    mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    mastodonmigration@mastodon.online
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                                    #26

                                    @benroyce

                                    Gentle people, when some wanker who has made billions of dollars lying to investors, employers and customers tells you that you should use his crappy technology for a simple task that you already know how to do very well, just tell him to fuck right off.

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      #Graduation #AI #fail seems to be a recurring theme lately

                                      Here's the latest 🍿 for you:

                                      #Glendale community #college in #Arizona used AI to read names

                                      Predictably, it missed people, it had the names out of order, etc

                                      Because, of course, a human reading the names of #graduates and giving them simple decent recognition for their dedication and work is too hard?

                                      This is video of college #faculty trying to explain the debacle. The crowd reaction is not supportive

                                      And oh yeah: Fuck AI

                                      klappspatack@troet.cafeK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      klappspatack@troet.cafe
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                                      #27

                                      @benroyce this is so lousy

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        #Graduation #AI #fail seems to be a recurring theme lately

                                        Here's the latest 🍿 for you:

                                        #Glendale community #college in #Arizona used AI to read names

                                        Predictably, it missed people, it had the names out of order, etc

                                        Because, of course, a human reading the names of #graduates and giving them simple decent recognition for their dedication and work is too hard?

                                        This is video of college #faculty trying to explain the debacle. The crowd reaction is not supportive

                                        And oh yeah: Fuck AI

                                        scunneen@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                                        scunneen@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                                        scunneen@mastodon.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #28

                                        @benroyce The rationalization for this is that the AI was trained on a variety of names from different cultures and so wouldn't mess upthe names of immigrant student, whereas it would not be practical for a single faculty member to memorize the pronunciation of the names of all 1000+ students in the graduating class. What I guess is that a white salesperson told a committee full of white people that students of color wanted this technology and the committee never bothered to ask said students.

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          #Graduation #AI #fail seems to be a recurring theme lately

                                          Here's the latest 🍿 for you:

                                          #Glendale community #college in #Arizona used AI to read names

                                          Predictably, it missed people, it had the names out of order, etc

                                          Because, of course, a human reading the names of #graduates and giving them simple decent recognition for their dedication and work is too hard?

                                          This is video of college #faculty trying to explain the debacle. The crowd reaction is not supportive

                                          And oh yeah: Fuck AI

                                          alexhelvetica@toot.catA This user is from outside of this forum
                                          alexhelvetica@toot.catA This user is from outside of this forum
                                          alexhelvetica@toot.cat
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #29

                                          @benroyce My university student file had multiple typed up phonetic pronunciations of my (dead) last name, because they knew how important that is to their students.

                                          I assume the teaching team noted them, because they're really good attempts. It showed they hadn't pulled them from a name pronunciation database from who-knows-where, because I highly doubt my family pronounces it in the correct German way.

                                          I'm sure that university must have had something similar, and I fail to see how an AI agent could have reduced costs in a perceivable way.

                                          They still had a speaker on the stage who could announce the student's names, someone to manage and monitor the stream and someone to direct the students to stage, who also could direct the speaker and stream monitor if someone is missing from the queue.

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