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  3. I made an app.https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.pocketpc.nearbyglassesNearby Glasses is here to warn you when smart glasses are nearby.

I made an app.https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.pocketpc.nearbyglassesNearby Glasses is here to warn you when smart glasses are nearby.

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  • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

    @yjeanrenaud make warnings more prominent on the app and its associated webpages, maybe a reminder that in many countries (pretty much all of Europe) it can be a potential criminal offence to harrass someone because you *think* they are wearing a covert surveillance device, which may even be a greater offence than actually using such a device.

    Its a genuinely complex legal situation and laws vary across countries - for instance in Britain its perfectly legal to wear bodycam, hidden microphones and all sorts of surveillance kit *provided* you aren't using the information gathered for harassment of others (for instance there's loads of middle aged women wearing discreet bodycams when dog walking due to paranoia over XL bullies and other aggressive breeds)

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    #80

    @vfrmedia thank you

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    • mewsleah@meow.socialM mewsleah@meow.social

      @yjeanrenaud for a canary app, i think the emphasis has to be on "no signals detected" and happy symbolism - maybe a dancing canary? 😉 - and that has to be something that's visible at a glance; if a signal is detected, flip the notification to "be cautious: there may be smart glasses in the vicinity" (maybe a canary shielding its face with its wing... if i had the talent, i'd contribute icons)

      maybe also a list of the known kinds of smart glasses, with photos, in a helpfile - or a wiki? won't help with Ray-Bans et al which look identical to the non-smart variants, of course 😞

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      #81

      @mewsleah good point. Maybe it's also not good to give visual directions. It's more like "be aware, maybe mask up or leave, ask others for help, shield each other"

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      • yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbtY yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbt

        @zyd you'd consider this spyware?
        But thanks for your feedback, too. I will consider this

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        #82

        @yjeanrenaud I'm not sure to be honest. It does feel like spyware in a kind of counter-spyware way. Military tech often uses Bluetooth detection to determine the location of targets to kill.

        Read this article to get perspective on the social implications of your software, it's a really good and fun read despite the serious topic: https://calebhearth.com/dont-get-distracted

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        • zyd@yap.zyd.lolZ zyd@yap.zyd.lol

          @yjeanrenaud I'm not sure to be honest. It does feel like spyware in a kind of counter-spyware way. Military tech often uses Bluetooth detection to determine the location of targets to kill.

          Read this article to get perspective on the social implications of your software, it's a really good and fun read despite the serious topic: https://calebhearth.com/dont-get-distracted

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          #83

          @zyd thanks

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          • yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbtY yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbt

            @mewsleah good point. Maybe it's also not good to give visual directions. It's more like "be aware, maybe mask up or leave, ask others for help, shield each other"

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            #84

            @yjeanrenaud certainly in the app, yes. definitely discourage people, in the strongest of terms, from attempting to go and confront who they think might be using smart glasses for surveillance purposes. both because they might be wrong, and going after someone completely innocent - and because they might be right, and the footage would almost certainly end up being used against them

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            • yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbtY yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbt

              I made an app.
              https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.pocketpc.nearbyglasses
              Nearby Glasses is here to warn you when smart glasses are nearby.

              I hope it's useful for someone.

              The app is open source, free and rather simple
              https://github.com/yjeanrenaud/yj_nearbyglasses

              It's also downloadable outside the Play Store. iOS port is in the making

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              #85

              @yjeanrenaud

              May be used by people selling thin wire cable security lanyards for smart glasses to stop them being stolen?

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              • yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbtY yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbt

                I made an app.
                https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.pocketpc.nearbyglasses
                Nearby Glasses is here to warn you when smart glasses are nearby.

                I hope it's useful for someone.

                The app is open source, free and rather simple
                https://github.com/yjeanrenaud/yj_nearbyglasses

                It's also downloadable outside the Play Store. iOS port is in the making

                nonlinear@social.praxis.nycN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #86

                @yjeanrenaud Bwahahaha I was just posting a reel talking about just that!

                https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVJkLEbDNhr/?igsh=MWFncjFzbzB3bzljMA==

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                • lxskllr@mastodon.worldL lxskllr@mastodon.world

                  @yjeanrenaud @daltux @manualdousuario

                  Your license has a non commercial clause. Is that compatible with f-droid? I'm not sure, but it's worth noting.

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                  #87

                  @lxskllr @yjeanrenaud @daltux @manualdousuario Nope. It's well-estsblished that non-commercial licenses are not open-source, and F-Droid only accepts open-source.

                  https://opensource.org/faq

                  https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Inclusion_Policy/

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                  • yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbtY yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbt

                    I made an app.
                    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.pocketpc.nearbyglasses
                    Nearby Glasses is here to warn you when smart glasses are nearby.

                    I hope it's useful for someone.

                    The app is open source, free and rather simple
                    https://github.com/yjeanrenaud/yj_nearbyglasses

                    It's also downloadable outside the Play Store. iOS port is in the making

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                    #88

                    @yjeanrenaud

                    Why not write it for an ESP32s3 or C5?
                    Then it's device agnostic. See colonel panic's git.

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                      #89

                      @reay

                      Yeah I saw that - kinda like Flock You.

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                      • pamela1960@kolektiva.socialP pamela1960@kolektiva.social

                        @yjeanrenaud Now we need an app to Jam them or make them stop working altogether.

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                        #90

                        @Pamela1960 @yjeanrenaud That app is already there

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                        • yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbtY yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbt

                          I made an app.
                          https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.pocketpc.nearbyglasses
                          Nearby Glasses is here to warn you when smart glasses are nearby.

                          I hope it's useful for someone.

                          The app is open source, free and rather simple
                          https://github.com/yjeanrenaud/yj_nearbyglasses

                          It's also downloadable outside the Play Store. iOS port is in the making

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                          #91

                          @yjeanrenaud call it "Nearby Glassholes", time to bring back the term

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                          • adambyte@dragonscave.spaceA adambyte@dragonscave.space

                            @lxskllr @yjeanrenaud @daltux @manualdousuario Nope. It's well-estsblished that non-commercial licenses are not open-source, and F-Droid only accepts open-source.

                            https://opensource.org/faq

                            https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Inclusion_Policy/

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                            #92

                            @adambyte @lxskllr @daltux @manualdousuario I see

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                            • yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbtY yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbt

                              I made an app.
                              https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.pocketpc.nearbyglasses
                              Nearby Glasses is here to warn you when smart glasses are nearby.

                              I hope it's useful for someone.

                              The app is open source, free and rather simple
                              https://github.com/yjeanrenaud/yj_nearbyglasses

                              It's also downloadable outside the Play Store. iOS port is in the making

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                              #93

                              @yjeanrenaud I real modern hero ! Well done! I await the IOS and will download.

                              Several commenters raise good points, the replies you made are perfect - well done!

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                              • asterisk@social.linux.pizzaA asterisk@social.linux.pizza

                                @mosquete @yjeanrenaud Probably not the best idea given its security track record. Should be put on Accrescent though.

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                                #94

                                @asterisk @mosquete @yjeanrenaud hi, i am curious. Do you have links or information about fdroid security issues ?

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                                • G gillesmertens@hostux.social

                                  @asterisk @mosquete @yjeanrenaud hi, i am curious. Do you have links or information about fdroid security issues ?

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                                  #95

                                  @gillesmertens @mosquete @yjeanrenaud

                                  F-Droid stuff:

                                  https://privsec.dev/posts/android/f-droid-security-issues/
                                  https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/1883895255142932816
                                  https://gitlab.com/ironfox-oss/lronFox/-/issues/7
                                  https://github.com/obfusk/fdroid-fakesigner-poc https://github.com/CatimaLoyalty/Android/issues/2608 https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/issues/593
                                  https://github.com/00-Evan/shattered-pixel-dungeon/issues/1394

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                                  • yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbtY yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbt

                                    I made an app.
                                    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.pocketpc.nearbyglasses
                                    Nearby Glasses is here to warn you when smart glasses are nearby.

                                    I hope it's useful for someone.

                                    The app is open source, free and rather simple
                                    https://github.com/yjeanrenaud/yj_nearbyglasses

                                    It's also downloadable outside the Play Store. iOS port is in the making

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                                    #96

                                    @yjeanrenaud
                                    We need to identify these as something other than smart glasses. No sense in using positive adjectives to describe these.

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                                    • yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbtY yjeanrenaud@tech.lgbt

                                      I made an app.
                                      https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.pocketpc.nearbyglasses
                                      Nearby Glasses is here to warn you when smart glasses are nearby.

                                      I hope it's useful for someone.

                                      The app is open source, free and rather simple
                                      https://github.com/yjeanrenaud/yj_nearbyglasses

                                      It's also downloadable outside the Play Store. iOS port is in the making

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                                      #97

                                      @yjeanrenaud is it going to be on @fdroidorg ?

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                                      • fuchsi@chaos.socialF fuchsi@chaos.social

                                        @yjeanrenaud new spyware dropped 😁

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                                        #98

                                        @fuchsi

                                        Smart glasses could be described as spyware (recording images and audio without your knowlege or consent).

                                        This app isn't spyware. It's using information that is already available to your phone (Bluetooth IDs that other devices are already sending out on their own accord) and merely making it easier for you to be aware of that information.

                                        @yjeanrenaud

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                                        • fandasin@social.linux.pizzaF fandasin@social.linux.pizza

                                          @Pamela1960

                                          /sarcasm
                                          That could be done by politly asking...and if that won't help, there's always a slap.😉

                                          @yjeanrenaud

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                                          #99

                                          @FandaSin @Pamela1960 @yjeanrenaud
                                          A device like the HackRF or Flipper Zero might be able to send something interesting over wifi or Bluetooth.

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