Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe?
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Apple IS a dictatorship, I agree. Every private company is a dictatorship, we can dislike that but that’s the reality of the world.
The way we bend private companies is by voting with our wallets, choosing competitors products. That’s where the free market becomes king, becomes it bends dictatorships (private companies) to the people’s will.
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Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight
️@EUCommission was sagt ihr dazu @macandi?
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Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight
️@EUCommission @timo That little dig at the end alone shows that the guy doesn't even know what he's talking about
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What's the idea in this being edited and clipped so heavily? I cannot listen to stuff like this, no matter how accurately this may convey the point, I have no faith watching heavily edited dialog.
It seems to be becomming the norm, and I hate it. Is it to fit into some yt shorts, tiktok or insta max time limit? Or is it thought that I haven't the time to let the speaker take a breather, or pause for effect, or think??@Doomstrike a shortened clip is tailored for SM - who wants to watch multiple hours context to a simple topic on SM? (This is how long those sessions usually go.) Just use your common sense and research. It took me 3 seconds to find a 2 minute video with the complete topic for you - it doesn't add anything to the shortened version and if you want to make sure you are not given the full poicture, just research. 3 seconds is all it takes.
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What's the idea in this being edited and clipped so heavily? I cannot listen to stuff like this, no matter how accurately this may convey the point, I have no faith watching heavily edited dialog.
It seems to be becomming the norm, and I hate it. Is it to fit into some yt shorts, tiktok or insta max time limit? Or is it thought that I haven't the time to let the speaker take a breather, or pause for effect, or think??@Doomstrike
Et voilà, as found in this post thread:
https://audiovisual.ec.europa.eu/en/media/video/I-290903 -
@EUCommission I just find it amazing how different everyone’s take on this is. Apple says the EU is to blame for Siri AI not launching here, while you guys say it’s entirely Apple’s fault. Let’s be honest, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. I also think it’s good that we don’t just rubber-stamp solutions from tech giants like Apple as if there were no risks involved. However, I do wonder: Why didn’t Apple try harder? Apple has been stringing us along since 2024, promising that the AI features would come. In all that time, surely it should have been possible to find a constructive solution for everyone.
@tonio of course one could trust Tim Felon 47's boot licker Crook & believe in the recent history of disregarding laws & abominating the EU this could be the 1 exception where the USa Tech&Government were actually trying an honest approach
- or you could face reality & compare recent experience & see that indeed USamerican Tech companies are playing fowl & don't like being caught, less though as they are not used to governments implementing consequences &enforcing given law. @EUCommission -
@Javensbukan @richlv @EUCommission the invisible hand of the market is not good enough of its own. Regulation is needed in markets where competition is scarce, I agree. I just disagree in this level of regulation on this market, I think it end up hurting more than helping.
But that balance is hard to get right, it fluctuates and not everyone thinks the same, so I’m pushing for what I think is right in this case.
Also radial tires? Is there a better choice? I have no idea! Tell me more!
@webjac @richlv @EUCommission Sorry I meant Bias-ply!
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@EUCommission no, the reason is that Apple does not want ANY random LLM to be able to scan our phones, the EU and their braindead people deciding on this should get their shit together and simply allow Apple to use what they think is the best. I want SIRI AI and I don't want you to dictate what Apple can or cannot! I hope my country leaves the EU soon, I really hope so!
@d4v you have obviously missed the message here: Apple wants to take the choice from you, EU wants you to be able to choose. Simple as that. Saying "Damn EU I don't want to have a free choice give me my apple dictated device" sounds a bit ... lobotomized. @EUCommission
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@EUCommission @timo That little dig at the end alone shows that the guy doesn't even know what he's talking about
️@kepten @EUCommission @timo That "little dig" at the end shows y'all are going to have to work a LOT harder to slop the planet. Cry more.
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@lelehier I am with you - I think it is the minority who is afraid to have freedom of choice - and as always, making a choice means to take responsibility, to be able to do so requires a minimum of brain activity. The loudest unfortunately are always the dumbest. @EUCommission
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Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight
️@EUCommission So the only US company that actually makes PRIVACY a sales argument is effectively blocked in the EU for using AI (from Google)?
So, in the EU I’m not allowed to make that decision by myself? If I decide to be in a walled garden, let me be in a walled garden.Sorry, but this all looks to me like failed damage control by the EU commission. I’ll have to move my iCloud to an Emirates iCloud to circumvent this paternalistic nonsense.
PS: the EU could have had it all if only policy makers would have realized that the Acorn computer was pure gold (back in 1985).
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@kepten @EUCommission @timo That "little dig" at the end shows y'all are going to have to work a LOT harder to slop the planet. Cry more.
@liquor_american @EUCommission The quintessential “what-about” argument. I'm not crying, but you are right now.
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@EUCommission I just find it amazing how different everyone’s take on this is. Apple says the EU is to blame for Siri AI not launching here, while you guys say it’s entirely Apple’s fault. Let’s be honest, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. I also think it’s good that we don’t just rubber-stamp solutions from tech giants like Apple as if there were no risks involved. However, I do wonder: Why didn’t Apple try harder? Apple has been stringing us along since 2024, promising that the AI features would come. In all that time, surely it should have been possible to find a constructive solution for everyone.
> Why didn’t Apple try harder?
Same reason they complained when they got forced to use USB-C... and had fanboys complaining on the internet that lightning cable is better because X and Y.
And then they switched to USB-C.
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@EUCommission no, the reason is that Apple does not want ANY random LLM to be able to scan our phones, the EU and their braindead people deciding on this should get their shit together and simply allow Apple to use what they think is the best. I want SIRI AI and I don't want you to dictate what Apple can or cannot! I hope my country leaves the EU soon, I really hope so!
if you like, your country can be more like my country, the USA:
fuck regulations! evil regulations!
the rich get richer and we get Trump in the White House
oh, we're doing so great (/sarcasm)
think. for once
if you're not already thinking "how can i respond to EU commission to sell anti-EU bullshit for morons as the anti-EU troll that I am?"
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One more reason for sane US citizens to migrate to Europe:)
@FrancoisPrague @EUCommission If only there were a way to do this that didn't involve a ton of red tape and tens of thousands of dollars.
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@mr_harm @richlv @EUCommission fair enough yes, they should be held to the law. I just think that should not be a law, at least not at this extent. That’s what I’m advocating for here. Just as I will advocate to apple to do the right thing for their customers and offer them choice.
From my point of view they’re both wrong
Apple should offer it because the market demands it and the government bodies should not meddle so much.@webjac @richlv @EUCommission the point here where apple does not want to comply is that they have to give third parties access to the APIs to offer a similar product on their platform.
Tell me how that is not sensible. They wanted to delay these APIs for 18 month while already offering their product, making adoption even worse for their competitors. Tell me how it was not sensible to say no to that. They could have just released the tools at the same time.
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@mr_harm @EUCommission @gklka Well, Apple users in the EU had access to similar features before the DMA, so it’s likely that some aspects of the DMA need to be reconsidered.
@zsolt @EUCommission @gklka yeah google tlmade their product DMA compliant in the first place. Google is already on the market and we know Siri is Gemini. Again. It is apples fault.
Don't complain about the referee when your team just got a deserved penalty.
Edit: misread the comment a bit. Which features are you talking about that were there before? It was called Siri, yes, but that is about it
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@zsolt @mr_harm @EUCommission @gklka Why not take the other position - that predatory companies should be reconsidered?
@richlv @zsolt @EUCommission @gklka yeah the emotions some people have talking about a product are crazy sometimes.
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if you follow EUCommission the comments underneath is always a sea of reply guys whining and high holy "extremely serious" outrage... on stupid bullshit premises
they're trolls
it's fake astroturfed discontent
they work an anti-EU agenda
they may not even be in the EU (their profiles can lie about where they are from)
they will use any premise to attack
here it is: "how dare you question holy Apple!"
it's lying fake bullshit
attacking the #EU is their real agenda
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@EUCommission it's not for you to choose what options a provider give us. If we trust Apple to give us the right choice, it should be our choice as consumer to buy their products with the feature set complete.
You meddling with a free market and telling a private enterprise how they should build their products is a scary thing for a regulatory body to do.
let the market choose on its own.
@webjac @EUCommission History has constantly shown that market decisions are rubbish for the people.
