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Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe?

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  • avuko@infosec.exchangeA avuko@infosec.exchange

    @jasper89 @dazo @Paul_Harts @EUCommission

    It is 99% Apple or Google. If you consider that a choice, I have a bunch of two-party political systems to sell you...

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    #216

    @avuko @jasper89

    Nah, it's not that dim. @murena is a French company, sponsoring the development of @e_mydata. In addition there GrapheneOS which is Canadian based.

    These are real Google Android alternatives which removes quite some of Googles influences over the user.

    @Paul_Harts @EUCommission

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    • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

      @avuko @jasper89

      Nah, it's not that dim. @murena is a French company, sponsoring the development of @e_mydata. In addition there GrapheneOS which is Canadian based.

      These are real Google Android alternatives which removes quite some of Googles influences over the user.

      @Paul_Harts @EUCommission

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      #217

      @avuko @jasper89

      Actually, if you pull it a bit further, you could probably also include @jolla and their #SailfishOS.

      @Paul_Harts @EUCommission

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      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

        Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight ⬇️

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        #218

        @EUCommission Just ditch your iPhone and buy a Fairphone 6 with /e/os from Murena.com

        I did 🙂🇩🇰

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          #219

          @challote @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission

          1/3 of the USA is positively engaged
          1/3 of the USA is bigoted plutocrat agenda manipulated morons (MAGA)
          1/3 of the USA is nonvoting losers (literally, they lose). entitled, lazy perfectionists and cynics who think they care about something but they only care about their holy precious self-regard. they invent any excuse to do nothing except whine and feel superior for doing nothing

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          • dazo@infosec.exchangeD dazo@infosec.exchange

            @avuko @jasper89

            Nah, it's not that dim. @murena is a French company, sponsoring the development of @e_mydata. In addition there GrapheneOS which is Canadian based.

            These are real Google Android alternatives which removes quite some of Googles influences over the user.

            @Paul_Harts @EUCommission

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            #220

            @dazo @jasper89 @murena @e_mydata @Paul_Harts @EUCommission

            https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide

            My bad. When I just said Apple and Google have 99% of the market share, I actually should have said 99.94%. I'm sorry.

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            • gklka@mastodon.socialG gklka@mastodon.social

              @zsolt @algernon @EUCommission As much as I love Apple, they are for the money here and EU is for us.

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              #221

              @gklka @zsolt @algernon I, for one, wouldn’t mind if manufacturers would look at me as an adult, let me be wrong and learn from it.

              I *hate* the erosion of ownership that is going on and that I cannot install an app without daddy Tim’s approval. I wanna own this device. But if the decision is made above my head, I cannot.

              (US) Companies have too much control over our lives. I think the @EUCommission should be more aggressive.

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              • webjac@mastodon.socialW webjac@mastodon.social

                @timsev @kaidu @rzeta0 @Ombligoelemento @EUCommission not buy an iPhone until they release the model choice.

                At least that’s what I’m planning to do

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                #222

                @webjac @timsev @kaidu @rzeta0 @EUCommission Yeah but if you are deep into the ecosystem and you lose your phone or it breaks, the reality is you probably end up buying another iPhone even if it’s in the second hand market. I think we should welcome this laws because it benefits the consumer, and most importantly try distinguish the bs big companies say in order to keep imposing their monopolies. And I said this being balls deep in the ecosystem and loving their hardware 😛

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @challote @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission

                  1/3 of the USA is positively engaged
                  1/3 of the USA is bigoted plutocrat agenda manipulated morons (MAGA)
                  1/3 of the USA is nonvoting losers (literally, they lose). entitled, lazy perfectionists and cynics who think they care about something but they only care about their holy precious self-regard. they invent any excuse to do nothing except whine and feel superior for doing nothing

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                  oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.social
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                  #223

                  @benroyce @challote @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission

                  All of gall is divided into three parts...

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                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                    Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight ⬇️

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                    #224

                    @EUCommission To be clear: Apple was not unable, but much rather *unwilling* to develop interoperability. This is intentional.

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                    • d4v@mastodon.socialD d4v@mastodon.social

                      @Ilka4You @EUCommission No, it’s not. For the past decade, Apple’s features alone were perfectly fine, and we never needed any third parties involved in the core functions. They should just leave it that way. Forcing this change is as absurd as requiring car manufacturers to let you swap engines from other brands, just because we’re in the EU and supposedly must have the option to choose which engine we want in our car. How stupid that would be?

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                      #225

                      @d4v 1st of all, 1 software onm a device is hardly comparable to the motor of a car. if you want to stick with this example it would be comparable to a feature like seat heating or soundsystem. Your engine would be the processor. 2nd: EU wants to protect free choice of customers, Apple wants to dominate the market by cutting laws and consumer rights.

                      @EUCommission

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                      • traveling_mike@mastodon.socialT traveling_mike@mastodon.social

                        @EUCommission
                        Normally I am in heated agreement with EU style regulation but I'm not on this.

                        VW only uses VW parts on VW cars. Do consumers have a right to buy a VW car and insist on a Toyota steering wheel? Obviously not.

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                        #226

                        @traveling_mike @EUCommission
                        I don't understand your argument. Anyone is allowed to fit wheels from any supplier, or battery, or many other parts that are typically supplied as an "add on". There are multiple specialist suppliers of car parts for most major models of car.
                        The maker of a model (not just cars) are obliged by the EU, to provide a proper spec, then any competent supplier can design their items to fit.
                        This prevents monopoly overcharging for 'parts' to anything.

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                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                          Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight ⬇️

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                          glitzersachen@hachyderm.io
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                          #227

                          @EUCommission

                          "by the way, powered by Google" and the face he makes there.

                          The burn ... 👍

                          I see people can have fun in the European Commission, too.

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                          • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                            Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight ⬇️

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                            #228

                            @EUCommission I would have replaced "unable" with "unwilling" there.

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                            • donjon111@mastodon.socialD donjon111@mastodon.social

                              @xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission
                              I wouldn't migrate to Europe for anything lol America is the best country and that says a hell of a lot 🤣

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                              glitzersachen@hachyderm.io
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                              #229

                              @DonJon111 @xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission

                              😀 😀 😆 😆

                              These days it hardly qualifies as a civilized country any more.

                              - Rampant racism => Check
                              - Labor rights => Nada
                              - Universal Health Care => Nada
                              - Rising Fascism => Check
                              - Unreliable Ally => Check

                              It would behoove you American Patriots all well to have a long hard look into the mirror before tossing off on any European country.

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                              • vanzick@mastodon.socialV vanzick@mastodon.social

                                @traveling_mike @EUCommission many parts of a VW car is not VW made. In fairness my friend has a GTI Golf with very cool modifications on it

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                                glitzersachen@hachyderm.io
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                                #230

                                @vanzick @traveling_mike @EUCommission

                                Especially the steering wheel might not be such a good example .... 😉

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                                • fluffybunnikins@mastodon.socialF fluffybunnikins@mastodon.social

                                  @EUCommission Can we have a legally enforceable ‘opt-out’ option for any and all “AI” slop?

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                                  glitzersachen@hachyderm.io
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                                  #231

                                  @FluffyBunnikins @EUCommission

                                  Count me in!

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                                  • avuko@infosec.exchangeA avuko@infosec.exchange

                                    @jasper89 @dazo @Paul_Harts @EUCommission

                                    It is 99% Apple or Google. If you consider that a choice, I have a bunch of two-party political systems to sell you...

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                                    glitzersachen@hachyderm.io
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                                    #232

                                    @avuko @jasper89 @dazo @Paul_Harts @EUCommission

                                    But then Jasper89 is likely an US citizen so cannot see anything wrong with your offer....

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                                    • G glitzersachen@hachyderm.io

                                      @DonJon111 @xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission

                                      😀 😀 😆 😆

                                      These days it hardly qualifies as a civilized country any more.

                                      - Rampant racism => Check
                                      - Labor rights => Nada
                                      - Universal Health Care => Nada
                                      - Rising Fascism => Check
                                      - Unreliable Ally => Check

                                      It would behoove you American Patriots all well to have a long hard look into the mirror before tossing off on any European country.

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                                      #233

                                      @glitzersachen @xoagray @FrancoisPrague @EUCommission

                                      Hey! You're right!

                                      Atleast, I have the right to carry a firearm and have free-speech to defend myself from fascism>>>

                                      This beats everything. Sorry. Get your rights up, son. I love my country ❤️🇺🇸🥳

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                                      • traveling_mike@mastodon.socialT traveling_mike@mastodon.social

                                        @EUCommission
                                        Normally I am in heated agreement with EU style regulation but I'm not on this.

                                        VW only uses VW parts on VW cars. Do consumers have a right to buy a VW car and insist on a Toyota steering wheel? Obviously not.

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                                        augebbs@mastodon.social
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                                        #234

                                        @traveling_mike @EUCommission Extremely non-comparable segments. One at its baseline, is transportation and the other mostly software.

                                        You can choose between many car brands, but only two operating systems for smartphones - Android or iOS. (Linux is not yet mature and anything else is de-googled OS)

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                                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                          Have you heard of Apple's decision on the rollout of Siri AI in Europe? Let's get the facts straight ⬇️

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                                          cid_terron@social.linux.pizza
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                                          #235

                                          @EUCommission if Apple is unable to develop interoperability solutions ... I would not call this "they choose, not to deliver..."
                                          Yes, in theory one could argue that they still could have delivered and violated some regulations.... But that's not really what anybody wants.

                                          On the other hand
                                          If Apple choose to not deliver - they were not: "unable to provide" ...

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