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  • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

    Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

    Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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    #29

    @theleftistlawyer And let's not forget the TOS episode that basically called out racism where for half of the episode Kirk and the others couldn't even figure out what people were differentiating their hate for each other on.

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    • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

      RWTB: Yes but look at all the fighting and war in Deep Space Nine! That's not woke!

      Average DS9 episode: The Black captain is having visions from the prophets about fighting racism and his canonically trans best friend is talking with the first officer and chief engineer about their polycule.

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      #30

      @theleftistlawyer I love these posts so much.

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      • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

        Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

        Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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        #31

        @theleftistlawyer They could just admit they're really into Lycra, but no, they have to get all *weird* about it.

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        • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

          Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

          Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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          #32

          @theleftistlawyer It's been a great while since I watched TOS. All I can remember is Kirk repeatedly slapping hysterical women. Oh and Abraham Lincoln manifesting on the ship and calling Uhura the N-word.

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          • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

            Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

            Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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            #33

            @theleftistlawyer

            Kirk’s anti-AI slop speeches were so elegant, AI would realize the error of their ways and immediately freeze up or commit suicide.

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            • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

              Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

              Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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              #34

              @theleftistlawyer Kirk literally told us to not be bigots.

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              • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                RWTB: BUT BUT VOYAGER WASN'T WOKE!!

                Average Voyager Episode: The Doctor travels to a capitalist society where he teaches the people about the need for universal health care as the Captain is holding a hearing on whether Q has a right to bodily autonomy.

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                #35

                @theleftistlawyer What I found amusing in the very first seasons of the Star Trek television series was Kirk's declaration that there was no concept of money in society.

                This was in an episode where the USS Enterprise is transported back in time to World War II. I found that surprising.

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                • cyberlyra@hachyderm.ioC cyberlyra@hachyderm.io

                  @theleftistlawyer

                  Seriously. Everyone at NASA I worked with loved Star Trek and was working towards that kind of future. They recognized the problems and challenges, but they really believed that future.

                  Although people in the commercial tech industry love to trot out sci fi references as if it's some kind of credential, they consistently get it wrong, making the dystopian stuff come true instead.

                  You just cannot get to The Federation by building SkyNet. It's not possible.

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                  #36
                  @cyberlyra
                  But Zefram Cochrane only invented warp drive (or got it to work) after WW3, and what caused that? I certainly don't know, but it could gave been Star Trek timelines version of skynet!
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                  • cyberlyra@hachyderm.ioC cyberlyra@hachyderm.io

                    @theleftistlawyer

                    Seriously. Everyone at NASA I worked with loved Star Trek and was working towards that kind of future. They recognized the problems and challenges, but they really believed that future.

                    Although people in the commercial tech industry love to trot out sci fi references as if it's some kind of credential, they consistently get it wrong, making the dystopian stuff come true instead.

                    You just cannot get to The Federation by building SkyNet. It's not possible.

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                    #37

                    @cyberlyra @theleftistlawyer I love that analogy! So true.

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                    • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                      Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

                      Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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                      #38

                      @theleftistlawyer

                      The *pilot* episode had a female first officer.

                      Original Series:

                      Black female communications *officer*.

                      Navigator and helmsman, clearly from "cold war enemy" countries, working right there in front of the captain.

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                      • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                        Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

                        Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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                        #39

                        @theleftistlawyer Also you know TOS has always been woke because MLK told Nichelle Nichols that she was a "vital role model" and should stay on the show.

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                        • cyberlyra@hachyderm.ioC cyberlyra@hachyderm.io

                          @theleftistlawyer

                          Seriously. Everyone at NASA I worked with loved Star Trek and was working towards that kind of future. They recognized the problems and challenges, but they really believed that future.

                          Although people in the commercial tech industry love to trot out sci fi references as if it's some kind of credential, they consistently get it wrong, making the dystopian stuff come true instead.

                          You just cannot get to The Federation by building SkyNet. It's not possible.

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                          #40

                          @cyberlyra @theleftistlawyer "I want it to be just like Star Trek but, like, I'm the king!"

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                          • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                            Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

                            Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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                            #41

                            @theleftistlawyer To tech bros it's only about Kirk and the green ladies.

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                            • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                              RWTB: Yes but look at all the fighting and war in Deep Space Nine! That's not woke!

                              Average DS9 episode: The Black captain is having visions from the prophets about fighting racism and his canonically trans best friend is talking with the first officer and chief engineer about their polycule.

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                              #42

                              @theleftistlawyer Anyone who thinks that DS9 wasn't gloriously woke has never watched a single episode and can be mocked relentlessly for being a fake fanboy (it's always a boy).

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                              • contrasocial@mastodon.socialC contrasocial@mastodon.social

                                @theleftistlawyer

                                Well at least there's not an episode of TNG where they unfreeze a capitalist from centuries ago and he's a complete blowhard who's unable to adjust to a society not based around capital and profit-seeking.

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                                #43

                                @contrasocial @theleftistlawyer oh no

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                                • alliat@social.vivaldi.netA alliat@social.vivaldi.net

                                  @theleftistlawyer It's been a great while since I watched TOS. All I can remember is Kirk repeatedly slapping hysterical women. Oh and Abraham Lincoln manifesting on the ship and calling Uhura the N-word.

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                                  #44

                                  @Alliat @theleftistlawyer There are some parts that have not aged well, but on the whole, the message holds up.

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                                  • vgoller@nrw.socialV vgoller@nrw.social

                                    @theleftistlawyer the difference - Kirk used every possibility to pull off his shirt. Picard, Sisco, and Pike are less narcissistic

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                                    #45

                                    @vgoller @theleftistlawyer I think this is a very distant reading of Kirk. He is far less the "punch first, ask questions later, bang everything that moves" caricature that he is made out to be.

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                                    • dresstokilt@mastodon.socialD dresstokilt@mastodon.social

                                      @Alliat @theleftistlawyer There are some parts that have not aged well, but on the whole, the message holds up.

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                                      #46

                                      @dresstokilt @theleftistlawyer Very true. It’s just those shocking things that really stuck. I also liked the fan made continuation but that was of course much more tame in those matters.

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                                      • contrasocial@mastodon.socialC contrasocial@mastodon.social

                                        @theleftistlawyer

                                        Well at least there's not an episode of TNG where they unfreeze a capitalist from centuries ago and he's a complete blowhard who's unable to adjust to a society not based around capital and profit-seeking.

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                                        #47

                                        @contrasocial @theleftistlawyer

                                        They really should have made him ambassador to the Ferrengi.

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                                          #48

                                          @theleftistlawyer Also we don't eat animals and we don't do capitalism.

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