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  • cyberlyra@hachyderm.ioC cyberlyra@hachyderm.io

    @theleftistlawyer

    Seriously. Everyone at NASA I worked with loved Star Trek and was working towards that kind of future. They recognized the problems and challenges, but they really believed that future.

    Although people in the commercial tech industry love to trot out sci fi references as if it's some kind of credential, they consistently get it wrong, making the dystopian stuff come true instead.

    You just cannot get to The Federation by building SkyNet. It's not possible.

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    #36
    @cyberlyra
    But Zefram Cochrane only invented warp drive (or got it to work) after WW3, and what caused that? I certainly don't know, but it could gave been Star Trek timelines version of skynet!
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    • cyberlyra@hachyderm.ioC cyberlyra@hachyderm.io

      @theleftistlawyer

      Seriously. Everyone at NASA I worked with loved Star Trek and was working towards that kind of future. They recognized the problems and challenges, but they really believed that future.

      Although people in the commercial tech industry love to trot out sci fi references as if it's some kind of credential, they consistently get it wrong, making the dystopian stuff come true instead.

      You just cannot get to The Federation by building SkyNet. It's not possible.

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      #37

      @cyberlyra @theleftistlawyer I love that analogy! So true.

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      • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

        Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

        Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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        #38

        @theleftistlawyer

        The *pilot* episode had a female first officer.

        Original Series:

        Black female communications *officer*.

        Navigator and helmsman, clearly from "cold war enemy" countries, working right there in front of the captain.

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        • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

          Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

          Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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          #39

          @theleftistlawyer Also you know TOS has always been woke because MLK told Nichelle Nichols that she was a "vital role model" and should stay on the show.

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          • cyberlyra@hachyderm.ioC cyberlyra@hachyderm.io

            @theleftistlawyer

            Seriously. Everyone at NASA I worked with loved Star Trek and was working towards that kind of future. They recognized the problems and challenges, but they really believed that future.

            Although people in the commercial tech industry love to trot out sci fi references as if it's some kind of credential, they consistently get it wrong, making the dystopian stuff come true instead.

            You just cannot get to The Federation by building SkyNet. It's not possible.

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            #40

            @cyberlyra @theleftistlawyer "I want it to be just like Star Trek but, like, I'm the king!"

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            • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

              Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

              Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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              #41

              @theleftistlawyer To tech bros it's only about Kirk and the green ladies.

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              • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                RWTB: Yes but look at all the fighting and war in Deep Space Nine! That's not woke!

                Average DS9 episode: The Black captain is having visions from the prophets about fighting racism and his canonically trans best friend is talking with the first officer and chief engineer about their polycule.

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                #42

                @theleftistlawyer Anyone who thinks that DS9 wasn't gloriously woke has never watched a single episode and can be mocked relentlessly for being a fake fanboy (it's always a boy).

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                • contrasocial@mastodon.socialC contrasocial@mastodon.social

                  @theleftistlawyer

                  Well at least there's not an episode of TNG where they unfreeze a capitalist from centuries ago and he's a complete blowhard who's unable to adjust to a society not based around capital and profit-seeking.

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                  #43

                  @contrasocial @theleftistlawyer oh no

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                  • alliat@social.vivaldi.netA alliat@social.vivaldi.net

                    @theleftistlawyer It's been a great while since I watched TOS. All I can remember is Kirk repeatedly slapping hysterical women. Oh and Abraham Lincoln manifesting on the ship and calling Uhura the N-word.

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                    #44

                    @Alliat @theleftistlawyer There are some parts that have not aged well, but on the whole, the message holds up.

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                    • vgoller@nrw.socialV vgoller@nrw.social

                      @theleftistlawyer the difference - Kirk used every possibility to pull off his shirt. Picard, Sisco, and Pike are less narcissistic

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                      #45

                      @vgoller @theleftistlawyer I think this is a very distant reading of Kirk. He is far less the "punch first, ask questions later, bang everything that moves" caricature that he is made out to be.

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                      • dresstokilt@mastodon.socialD dresstokilt@mastodon.social

                        @Alliat @theleftistlawyer There are some parts that have not aged well, but on the whole, the message holds up.

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                        #46

                        @dresstokilt @theleftistlawyer Very true. It’s just those shocking things that really stuck. I also liked the fan made continuation but that was of course much more tame in those matters.

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                        • contrasocial@mastodon.socialC contrasocial@mastodon.social

                          @theleftistlawyer

                          Well at least there's not an episode of TNG where they unfreeze a capitalist from centuries ago and he's a complete blowhard who's unable to adjust to a society not based around capital and profit-seeking.

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                          #47

                          @contrasocial @theleftistlawyer

                          They really should have made him ambassador to the Ferrengi.

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                            #48

                            @theleftistlawyer Also we don't eat animals and we don't do capitalism.

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                            • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                              Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

                              Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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                              #49

                              @theleftistlawyer

                              I will take “What is Return of the Archons” for $300 dollars Jerry.

                              Or I will take “ what little girls are made of” for $300

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                              • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                                Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

                                Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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                                #50

                                @theleftistlawyer

                                Not to mention American TV's first interracial kiss.

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                                • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                                  Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

                                  Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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                                  #51

                                  @theleftistlawyer Kirk always puts himself and his crew at risk in order to achieve peaceful outcomes. He'd rather die than start a war!

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                                  • pseudonym@mastodon.onlineP pseudonym@mastodon.online

                                    @contrasocial @theleftistlawyer

                                    They really should have made him ambassador to the Ferrengi.

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                                    #52

                                    @pseudonym @contrasocial @theleftistlawyer I think they did that in one of the novels

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                                    • jeffgrigg@mastodon.socialJ jeffgrigg@mastodon.social

                                      @theleftistlawyer

                                      The *pilot* episode had a female first officer.

                                      Original Series:

                                      Black female communications *officer*.

                                      Navigator and helmsman, clearly from "cold war enemy" countries, working right there in front of the captain.

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                                      #53

                                      @JeffGrigg @theleftistlawyer Hikaru Sulu was not from a Cold War enemy country.

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                                      • dresstokilt@mastodon.socialD dresstokilt@mastodon.social

                                        @theleftistlawyer Anyone who thinks that DS9 wasn't gloriously woke has never watched a single episode and can be mocked relentlessly for being a fake fanboy (it's always a boy).

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                                        #54

                                        @dresstokilt @theleftistlawyer *Quark makes money, and I turn the TV off before his comeuppance arc* finally, a show that tells it like it is.

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                                        • theleftistlawyer@mastodon.socialT theleftistlawyer@mastodon.social

                                          Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.

                                          Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.

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                                          #55

                                          @theleftistlawyer Wait, is this about Star Trek, or Dungeons and Dragons?

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